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**twist55** · 08-10-2014, 10:02 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by StrikerAI

You're not looking the skills of those players. Westbrook is a competitive, ball dominating, scoring PG, Lowry is a good team player, a scrapper, competitive, and knows when to pass and when to score. Vasquez is a good scorer off the bench, which the Thunder need, he is 6'6 so he can also play SG since they have Jackson. And Jonas is a young C with good potential, he can become the offensive low-post threat the Thunder need. Adams can become a good rebounding/defensive C, but I don't see him being good offensively.

Wow umm ok. I feel like this is ESPN on how many people underrate Westbrook. Last season Lowry avg. 0.5 more asts (in what is called a career year for Lowry) but Westbrook had a better assist percentage. GV is not a good scorer off the bench. Jonas has promise but all that plus a non lottery 1st rounder is not enough. You guys realize Westbrook outplayed Durant during the playoffs right? You're basically trading a dollar for 3 quarters.

Also LOL at team player/competitive argument

**BaconHawk** · 08-10-2014, 10:05 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by twist55

Wow umm ok. I feel like this is ESPN on how many people underrate Westbrook. Last season Lowry avg. 0.5 more asts (in what is called a career year for Lowry) but Westbrook had a better assist percentage. GV is not a good scorer off the bench. Jonas has promise but all that plus a non lottery 1st rounder is not enough. You guys realize Westbrook outplayed Durant during the playoffs right? You're basically trading a dollar for 3 quarters.

Also LOL at team player/competitive argument

Westbrook outplayed him cause he took all the damn shots.

**slimreaper35** · 08-10-2014, 10:05 PM

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I'm telling you, the thunder are set for years to come as long as we keep our core together. Literally every single player on the thunder has yet to reach their potential! Think about that for a moment... (only exceptions being Sebastian Telfair,Anthony morrow, Perkins, and Collison)

**Zacrem** · 08-10-2014, 10:06 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by slimreaper35

I'm telling you, the thunder are set for years to come as long as we keep our core together. Literally every single player on the thunder has yet to reach their potential! Think about that for a moment... (only exceptions being Sebastian Telfair,Anthony morrow, Perkins, and Collison)

Durant and Westbrook have reached full potential

**tarheel4lyfe851** · 08-10-2014, 10:07 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by slimreaper35

I'm telling you, the thunder are set for years to come as long as we keep our core together. Literally every single player on the thunder has yet to reach their potential! Think about that for a moment... (only exceptions being Sebastian Telfair,Anthony morrow, Perkins, and Collison)

Clearly you haven't watched enough thunder games. It's as simple as this. If your thunder want a title soon, they have to get Westbrook and brooks out of there.

**slimreaper35** · 08-10-2014, 10:09 PM

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Durant is 25, Westbrook Is either 25 or 24. I'm pretty sure the general consensus is that your prime is reached around 27/28 years old. You think Kobe was at his best at age 25???

**Sealed** · 08-10-2014, 10:10 PM

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What do I fix?

**BaconHawk** · 08-10-2014, 10:11 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by slimreaper35

I'm telling you, the thunder are set for years to come as long as we keep our core together. Literally every single player on the thunder has yet to reach their potential! Think about that for a moment... (only exceptions being Sebastian Telfair,Anthony morrow, Perkins, and Collison)

Originally posted by tarheel4lyfe851

Clearly you haven't watched enough thunder games. It's as simple as this. If your thunder want a title soon, they have to get Westbrook and brooks out of there.

As a diehard Thunder fan, I agree with Tarheel.

We simply can't win with 2 guys out there doing it all. We have pretty much no bench whatsoever. We need some young guys that'll be willing to stay for multiple years and are talented. We need a SG and a C, then we need more depth at pretty much every position.

Oh, and as much as I love Scotty Brooks, he's not a good coach, his defensive schemes and plays are just hindering us.

**dukedude24** · 08-10-2014, 10:13 PM

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OKC aren't missing stars or role players,

they are missing a system.

**StrikerAI** · 08-10-2014, 10:14 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by twist55

Wow umm ok. I feel like this is ESPN on how many people underrate Westbrook. Last season Lowry avg. 0.5 more asts (in what is called a career year for Lowry) but Westbrook had a better assist percentage. GV is not a good scorer off the bench. Jonas has promise but all that plus a non lottery 1st rounder is not enough. You guys realize Westbrook outplayed Durant during the playoffs right? You're basically trading a dollar for 3 quarters.

Also LOL at team player/competitive argument

Outplayed KD? By shooting 21 times and making 42% of those? KD averaged almost 30 PPG on, slightly less than usual, 46% FG.
That was a career year for Lowry, Westbrook is a star PG, of course he'd be better, its expected. Lowry isn't, but still a very good PG. Competitive? Of course he is, he is the heart of the Raptors, if you watched him play, you'd know he's a competitive bulldog, way back to his Houston days as well. Team player? Yes, the Raptors improved tremendously when Rudy Gay got traded, Lowry's numbers jumped, and the team started to move the ball a lot more. Vasquez didn't average a lot, but he shot 39% 3FG in the regular season and 37% 3FG in the Playoffs, that is decent shooting. Face it, Westbrook is a really good player, but a ball dominant PG.

**twist55** · 08-10-2014, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by BaconHawk

Westbrook outplayed him cause he took all the damn shots.

Westbrook- 8.8/20.9 (fgm/fga)
Durant- 10.2/22.2

So basically KD took took/made 2 more shot. He had a better PER outplayed the best PG in the league. I can't believe you call yourself a Thunder fan because true fans actually know how important RW is to the team

**BaconHawk** · 08-10-2014, 10:15 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by dukedude24

OKC aren't missing stars or role players,

they are missing a system.

Nah we need upgrades. If we can get someone like Brad Beal in DC, and someone like Greg Monroe in Motown, we can build around all of them with some defenders and shooters.

**Zacrem** · 08-10-2014, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by twist55

Westbrook- 8.8/20.9 (fgm/fga)
Durant- 10.2/22.2

So basically KD took took/made 2 more shot. He had a better PER outplayed the best PG in the league. I can't believe you call yourself a Thunder fan because true fans actually know how important RW is to the team

Hes a ball hog end of discussion

**slimreaper35** · 08-10-2014, 10:19 PM

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We don't need a roster overhaul. Sure we could use a low post scorer and more shooting, but other then that we're fine. Scott Brooks should design more plays then just iso though... lol

**tarheel4lyfe851** · 08-10-2014, 10:19 PM

Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Originally posted by BaconHawk

Nah we need upgrades. If we can get someone like Brad Beal in DC, and someone like Greg Monroe in Motown, we can build around all of them with some defenders and shooters.

Greg Monroe's talent would be wasted in OKC in my opinion because he would take a backseat to ibaka just like he did to Drummond this year. If the thunder were smart they'd find a way to get Bledsoe and start looking for a new head coach. Westbrook is a cancer to the team. As much as anyone loves that guy there's one definitive reason why he hurts your team in the long run: he takes more shots than Durant way more than ANYONE ever should. He's reckless and out of control and is not a "point guard" capable of helping a team win a championship

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