MyTeam Mobile Discussion

[eVizions]

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Just wanted to point out to a few people complaining about the new rewards versus the old rewards. The old rewards, especially winning star finals, were way too generous, they messed up with the initial rewards. They corrected that but may have angered some. Be happy that you got it while it lasted. Also, when NWGD says many are not tanking, I can attest to that from my star season experience. I think I've been through 5 or 6 seasons since the change and almost all fight until the end. For those of us who never had the opportunity to get those 3 star cards, we do not know any different so we still try to get the best possible season reward.


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The only old reward that could possibly be considered "too generous" was 3 stars for winning a star season. Everything else was pretty well on point.

Are you in star seasons? I imagine the lower seasons may be competitive until the end (unless you know early on that you have no chance to win) because winning actually gives you a better prize, but in star seasons the prize is one star whether you exit in the QF or win it all. The only difference is that you don't have to wait the extra 8-14 hours.

I'm purely going off of my own experience. In my last season, there were 4 humans. 3 tanked in the QF (I was one of them, so I don't know what the 4th did). The season before that, same thing. Small sample size, but it's a trend that I never saw before. People would fight during the regular season for better seeds and then boost like hell in the playoffs.

[Flipvan]

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I'm amazed at when you actually convert the credits to real money, let's say dollars, a playoff card will be roughly 10k - about $65 and a pro card will be roughly 23k - about $150. Wow! Just wow!


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[VizzyXV]

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@NewGameDad Are there any plans in the future to make defense more relevant? Offense wins vs Defense 99% of the time. Its not very realistic. No one in the NBA shoots 99% from the field. I just wish the offensive and defensive stats were a little closer. It would make the game more challenging too. Anytime I get an "Defense vs Offense " I just use my worst card as a throwaway bc I know that even my best card will lose the matchup more often than not.

I doubt it, be way too hard to fix right now, I still have hope ratings will be better for MyNBA2K16

[eVizions]

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Once again someone who's missing the big picture. How many people do you think use the forums to trade & deal. 200 maybe? Even if it's as high as 2000, that's literally 1% of the players.

Isn't yiyi the person who did the 1pt RC last week? Do you know what his rank was at end? The last update I saw him post was below 172k.

My point, just because we complain about things don't assume that to be the norm for the other 99%.

This forum represents a sampling of the user base. You've got heavy hitters and you've got free players. If the vast majority of people here are upset with something, it's a pretty good assumption that the rest of the user base isn't happy with it, either. I'm not suggesting that everyone is on these boards. I'm suggesting that there's enough of a diverse sampling here to represent the community.

[Theonlyaequitas]

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If 9nly it was game 69 too.... uploadfromtaptalk1428394308776.jpg

[SmartForce]

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Ok last post then it is bed time for me. I wasn't mocking your name, I simply didn't remember it. I thought it was Smartmove. Not even sure how that is offensive, but if you took offense sorry for not remembering your screen name.

You have made plenty of comments, some earlier tonight when you attack our design methodology because we have a bug in the game around RttC that tells me you're not someone able to engage in a conversation. Not character assassination, but my opinion of what you have written on the forums for several days now.

You compared me to a political fanatic unwilling to change my mind. Also, the following is the quote where I supposedly attacked your design methodology. I don't see any attack in there ... could you point it out?

There's nothing at all wrong with the game nights system. It's up to the players to balance that, and given that the rewards can be loss flopped to for less credits than it would cost to buy a pack guaranteeing the same level reward, there's no problem there. You are in fact being more generous than you need to.

As for the winning the double event strategy thing goes, expected that would be fixed. If you make it so that it goes down to a +5 relative point change (+6 would result in ties if you won only the "double" event, and ties count as wins), then the strat will simply change to stacking a 3rd position with your best 5 cards, and using your 6th-15th best cards to line 2 other positions and win the "double" events with. In that case you still come away with guaranteed close victories.

Making that change will simply raise the bar for clearing the event. I'm not sure whether people will pay to flop their way to a card 1 loss at a time or not, so I can't predict whether you'll see an increase in profit from altering the event so the current strat doesn't work.

There will always be a most efficient way to play games, and people will always seek them out. I suppose you could make it so that winning +2 on the final card requires all 25 spots to be RC or Pro Star level cards or higher, but then you've moved the bar so high that only people without any need of the card can get it.

As it is, if you move the bar higher than it is now (where 5 pro stars and 5 pro legs or stars will let you win most of the time at +2), you'll be bumping into a problem where the reward doesn't help the deck that it takes to earn it.

I agreed with you that it is up to the payers to decide how to approach the game night system. I said that I figured you would change the RttC so that it wasn't made trivial by having 10 cards slotted a certain way.

I pointed out some possible places where you could fix that and expressed that I didn't feel that I had the ability to predict how the most obvious change would impact sales of game nights and hot streaks.

I made the obvious observation that people will always try and find the most efficient way to get the most out of their playtime. This makes sense in a game where a single card at the highest level costs $50-$100 ... people are going to want to be efficient.

Finally, I made the obvious observation that the trap in changing the event is pushing it to the point where the only people who can win are people who don't need the reward.

Where in there was I attacking your design methodology?

Even if I had attacked your design methodology, would that have made it okay for you to compare me to a political nutjob who was incapable of changing my mind and therefore an acceptable target to attack?

[sbstunna]

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I think if you pull your head from the sand then you might hear me better. :wink:

Seriously, for Season, you say "everyone" is tanking. That simply isn't true. Maybe those you associate with on the boards are tanking, but you represent the elite of the elite. Many players care about Credits quite a bit and want them to spend on AH, packs, Hot Streaks, etc. The data doesn't lie.

Ask yourself what you would have done with that Star Pro before the AH came out a few weeks ago. Sat on it, or trained it away. While you focus on the fact we "took" 5000 Credits, you're ingmoring the fact you made 10k. Likely for a free card too. Plus, you sold it. I'm not saying all cards are selling. They are not, and they shouldn't be. But we are seeing plenty of sales, enough to call the economy healthy. Like I said earlier, the thing hurting the economy more than anything is supply. There are too many free cards to rule make it an open market. All these other games you speak of do not allow unrestricted play. They have energy systems. They have limited reward systems. All those things allow them to have a "open market" because they are not giving away as much as we are. Would you like us to remove the guaranteed drop after a set number of boards? Would like to play 5 Quick Games then pay or wait for more energy? That is what it would take to get an open market since then your would have less supply and players would feel more value to the cards. I don't think you would enjoy the game as much though.

That response actually makes sense. I know that you will never be able to satisfy everyone and there will always be someone who is not happy. Its the nature of the beast. It is cool that you get on here and take the time to answer questions. I know I wouldn't have the patience to do it

[Flipvan]

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You compared me to a political fanatic unwilling to change my mind. Also, the following is the quote where I supposedly attacked your design methodology. I don't see any attack in there ... could you point it out?



I agreed with you that it is up to the payers to decide how to approach the game night system. I said that I figured you would change the RttC so that it wasn't made trivial by having 10 cards slotted a certain way.

I pointed out some possible places where you could fix that and expressed that I didn't feel that I had the ability to predict how the most obvious change would impact sales of game nights and hot streaks.

I made the obvious observation that people will always try and find the most efficient way to get the most out of their playtime. This makes sense in a game where a single card at the highest level costs $50-$100 ... people are going to want to be efficient.

Finally, I made the obvious observation that the trap in changing the event is pushing it to the point where the only people who can win are people who don't need the reward.

Where in there was I attacking your design methodology?

Even if I had attacked your design methodology, would that have made it okay for you to compare me to a political nutjob who was incapable of changing my mind and therefore an acceptable target to attack?

Not sure if you played the last RttC, just wanted to point this out in case you did not, but they fixed the +2 of the star card challenge. With the Ewing it was a star deck challenge for +2. With the Lewis It was a leg++.

Just for future reference, always be cautious when a new event is implemented. Never assume you should be able to get to a certain card without first attempting the challenge.


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[eVizions]

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Yes, I am saying not all cards will or even should sell. Do you think everything you list on EBay sells just because you list it? No, it does not. There has to be a perceived value in the item or it will never sell. Not all cards are going to have perceived value, which means yes you should train it away, or save it until the supply dictates that the card will have value. It literally is not possible for everything to sell, and expecting a card to sell just because you listed it is not realistic.

For Seasons, save those Credits and go buy on the AH dupes. You'll find it different progression than before but no less satisfying, and perhaps even easier than before.

As others have pointed out, virtually everything on eBay will sell if you price it accordingly. In this game, virtually everything would sell if we were allowed to price it accordingly. It's the artificial limitations that prevent us from being able to sell things, not the market itself.

For me to buy a single Star to dup, I'd have to win 5 Star seasons. Assuming I was able to win 5 in a row, you're talking at least 3 weeks. That's not "satisfying" at all.

[Flipvan]

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As others have pointed out, virtually everything on eBay will sell if you price it accordingly. In this game, virtually everything would sell if we were allowed to price it accordingly. It's the artificial limitations that prevent us from being able to sell things, not the market itself.



For me to buy a single Star to dup, I'd have to win 5 Star seasons. Assuming I was able to win 5 in a row, you're talking at least 3 weeks. That's not "satisfying" at all.

If your referring to the minimum , the problem is, you may have friends selling each other great cards for 1 credit. Or as people do on here, trade. Essentially cutting CD out completely


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[eVizions]

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You are aware they have the data on AH health and seasons right? They also have access to all user data and gameplay telemetry as well.

Are you saying you know better as to the state of the AH and the game than the guy who; produced the game, maintains and runs it's continual development, and has actual access to all the data?

Granted, maybe you've had trouble selling cards, maybe you've had to do buybacks, maybe you've seen some others here complain of the same. I'll give you that, but remember, that doesn't mean those who are being vocal are the majority.

In any case, no matter how valid you think your proposals are (or even how valid they in fact are): ultimately NWGD has rejected the idea of lower tax multiple times and he's rejected the idea of bringing back the old (generous) star season rewards. So regardless, it's over, it's done.

Design (architecture), development, eCommerce, digital economies... this is all in my wheelhouse. This is what I do for a living. I don't need access to the data to know that this virtual economy is not what it could or should be. I've been courteous, fair and I've always given logical explanations with my observations and suggestions. Anything else?

[sbstunna]

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I doubt it, be way too hard to fix right now, I still have hope ratings will be better for MyNBA2K16

Yeah thats kinda what I meant by in the future. It would have been nice tho if it was possible lol

[SmartForce]

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Not sure if you played the last RttC, but they fixed the +2 of the star card challenge. With the Ewing it was a star deck challenge for +2. With the Lewis It was a leg++.

Just for future reference, always be cautious when a new event is implemented. Never assume you should be able to get to a certain card without first attempting the challenge.


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I'm just irritated at the moment because, aside from a few snarky posts, my post history is overwhelmingly rational and complimentary to CD and NWGD, but I got singled out and compared to a political fanatic incapable of changing my mind.

I've seen an incredible amount of vitriol aimed at NWGD specifically and at CD specifically, and I'm in the thread trying to make suggestions that I think would be mutually beneficial to the players and the company, and out of all the people who might have ever said something aimed at him, he decides to call me the irrational fanatic?

Objectively, I believe that being thoroughly open and honest about changes would result in a much healthier relationship between NWGD and his company with the community. Nearly all of the nasty posts I've seen since the most recent update came about because of a lack of transparent honesty about what was being changed and why.

Objectively, I believe that changing the "hot streaks expire at the end of the event" policy should result in a net increase in income from hot streaks for CD, and makes sense in light of having events every week that can use them.

[Bane]

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You compared me to a political fanatic unwilling to change my mind. Also, the following is the quote where I supposedly attacked your design methodology. I don't see any attack in there ... could you point it out?

I think he was referring to this even earlier post regarding attacking their design methodology

[SmartForce]

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If your referring to the minimum , the problem is, you may have friends selling each other great cards for 1 credit. Or as people do on here, trade. Essentially cutting CD out completely


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This, and plus there needs to be some link between pack prices and AH costs, or they undermine their own business model. Many of us feel packs are priced a bit high, but that's another topic.