MyTeam Mobile Discussion

[justsaiyan]

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Lol. Not really. The MVP is suppose to be the player that does the most for his team. The Warriors have a few All-Stars and a really strong starting lineup. The Rockets have Harden and Howard, who is injury prone. If Harden does not win the MVP this year, it will be a gross injustice.

As a Rockets fan, I like this guy.

[Doug0806]

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Nah, no worries man. I absolutely agree with you. Yes, Harden DOES do more for his team (flopping or not flopping) because he has to shoulder the load on offense. I think we're all in agreement there.

I also agree, Curry has not HAD to do much in the 4th quarter this year as much as Harden does. However, in the times that he has had to come up in the 4th quarter (see Game 3 against NO as an example), Curry has stepped up when called upon. Curry easily can dominate ball games like Harden does, but he hasn't because he wants to play within Kerr's system. Just because Curry hasn't had to doesn't mean he can't. That's all I'm trying to say. =)

Yeah of course. I'm with you on that. If curry had to shoulder the load on offense i would put money that he could do it. And if curry needs to step up I know that he is capable. But my point is when discussing MVP saying that curry is capable of doing what james harden does or that if he was on a lesser team he'd stand out just as much as harden. Even though i agree with that point 100%...it isn't a valid argument. The person who is actually doing it should win mvp

[kclutch24]

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Curry doesn't play defense. Well he tries but he's not good at it, so I dont count that "playing defense". Idk what his steals numbers are but I've never seen Curry lock down someone or even slow them down on the defensive end.

Not sure if you've seen a lot of Warrior games this year, but his defense has gotten a lot better than last year. And I don't think steals per game is a good indicator of playing defense. I'm not saying Curry is like Kahwi, but I can damn well say he's a better defender than the beard.

[kclutch24]

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Yeah of course. I'm with you on that. If curry had to shoulder the load on offense i would put money that he could do it. And if curry needs to step up I know that he is capable. But my point is when discussing MVP saying that curry is capable of doing what james harden does or that if he was on a lesser team he'd stand out just as much as harden. Even though i agree with that point 100%...it isn't a valid argument. The person who is actually doing it should win mvp

That message should be passed to the selection committee. =) The "MVP" has gone through several different interpretations the last 10 years or so.

[justsaiyan]

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I never argued anything about the significance he has on his team. Just don't agree with him being MVP because

1) Harden4MVP said "The MVP is suppose to be the player that does the most for his team." If that were true, I was just trying to say that Kobe should have won it those few years when Nash won it. But that is not how the committee sees it.

2) I don't like floppers, period. I know Harden isn't the only player who flops in the NBA (Manu, Griffin, etc...) but Harden does it so consistently it gets old.

3) Harden's not a 2 way player...can't play defense if his life depended on it.

Harden should win an Oscar award before winning MVP...

And I'm not saying he ISN'T a good player...that was never in dispute. And sorry Harden4MVP for getting it into you, normally I'm not one to get into arguments etc. on the forums here (and I think people know that), but I absolutely just...hate flopping lol. I know it's a widespread issue in the league today, but just because it exists doesn't mean you have to use that tactic.

I think you should look up Coach Pop's respond to when he was asked about Hack-a-Shaq

[LAKERKING]

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Curry averaged 2.0 steals this season. That's pretty good D IMO.

[justsaiyan]

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Yeah agree it's not always smart of him, as the dented face earlier in the year proves. He plays with heart though you gotta give him that.

Yeah I do have immense respect for him. Got surgery on his face and dropped a triple double next game. Very beastly. Could be described as savage.

[Tank4ever]

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Well guys maybe Harden will win the Players MVP award. He seemed to be the favorite among them, its really only the media who has been trying to give Curry the MVP since like Christmas.

[kevguy]

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Don't know if this has been discussed before but has anyone seen this?
Stats off the charts lol

Update: it turns out it was just DJ Augustin [emoji58]

[kclutch24]

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Curry doesn't play defense. Well he tries but he's not good at it, so I dont count that "playing defense". Idk what his steals numbers are but I've never seen Curry lock down someone or even slow them down on the defensive end.

Just for reference...I'll leave this here.

According to the numbers, Curry positively impacts the Warriors' defensive efficiency more than any of his backcourt teammates -- yes, even Klay Thompson, who drew the tougher assignments under Mark Jackson -- and ranks second among all guards in the league at opponents' field goal percentage.

[JBGlass]

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That's not even fair


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Wish I could afford that star Rose


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[Vicious1]

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Welcome Harden4MVP to the forums...folks already know my stance on the MVP so not getting to this again.

I assume your a Rockets fan what do you think of your chances vs Clips or Spurs next round?

PO tier couldn't come soon enough.


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[ColtsAJD]

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I guess you haven't seen Westbrook do his patented flop 3 point attempts or 2 point jump shots that gets him to the line.


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Oh I won't argue with that, I'm not a fan of jumping into people to get free throws. It's a cheap tactic. Seems like most guards do that nowadays...even Steph on some of the funky 3 point attempts he takes. I think Jamal Crawford is the king of that though lol

[drdotwho]

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Just for reference...I'll leave this here.

According to the numbers, Curry positively impacts the Warriors' defensive efficiency more than any of his backcourt teammates -- yes, even Klay Thompson, who drew the tougher assignments under Mark Jackson -- and ranks second among all guards in the league at opponents' field goal percentage.

Indeed. Both Curry and Thompson played better defense than last year. Curry definitely got more steals, whereas Thompson just play better defense overall, which is why some say he might be the best all-around SG in the league this season, on par with Jimmy Butler.

[drdotwho]

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Oh I won't argue with that, I'm not a fan of jumping into people to get free throws. It's a cheap tactic. Seems like most guards do that nowadays...even Steph on some of the funky 3 point attempts he takes. I think Jamal Crawford is the king of that though lol

I personally don't have a problem with players "jumping into" others to get some FT if the defender is right in front. But jumping side ways? That is just silly. Glad that NBA made it "stricter" in that sense, so you don't see players jump towards a defense that is "on the side" to draw fouls.

And yes Jamal Crawford is one of the top in drawing all kinds of fouls. Yet he can also make it And-1 or a 4-point play, AND he got good handles. I enjoy watching him play.