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  • qtdi123
    Rookie
    • May 2014
    • 391

    #115876
    Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

    Originally posted by kolson21
    Who'd you want to win MVP?
    Demarcus Cousins deserves MVP this year for his tremendous play/statlines and carrying me to a fantasy basketball championship.
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    • JPJames
      Banned
      • Nov 2014
      • 1762

      #115877
      Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

      Originally posted by SmartForce
      FTFY. {Most Valuable Flopper/Flailer}.
      Flopper... smh no comment.

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      • Vicious1
        Rookie
        • Dec 2014
        • 464

        #115878
        Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

        Originally posted by SmartForce
        FTFY. {Most Valuable Flopper/Flailer}.

        SMH...you serious?


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        • SmartForce
          MVP
          • Mar 2015
          • 1845

          #115879
          Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

          Originally posted by kolson21
          Who'd you want to win MVP?
          I don't have any particular opinion on who should win. There don't seem to be any actual criteria. In the 90s, we saw Jordan not win when he was clearly the MVP because the voters apparently got bored of giving it to him or something.

          In the aughts we saw Nash somehow win MVP with multiple better candidates by pretty much any metric that makes sense.

          If you want to argue that Curry should be MVP because he's the best player on the best team ... that makes sense. If you define it as the player who is most valuable, it's going to have to be someone without whom his team would have been average or even a lottery team instead of a top tier team. (This, I believe, is the primary argument for Harden?).

          Originally posted by JPJames
          Flopper... smh no comment.
          There's a ridiculous number of clips on youtube of Curry flopping and flailing. Reddit has discussions started by GS fans complaining about the Screen and Flop play that they run at the end of games the last couple years, with visual aids. Hell, the refs didn't give him the foul when he was clearly fouled on that 3 last week because he so frequently flails around like someone ran into him full speed when he's letting go of a 3.

          He's a clear all-star. Probably a 1st team All NBA guy. He may even be the MVP. That doesn't mean he's some paragon of sportsmanship who isn't just as much a flopper as the rest of his generation. They're all out there working the refs.
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          • RunTMC
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            • Mar 2015
            • 44

            #115880
            Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

            The debate is between Curry and Harden, one of them flops consistently and it isn't Steph.

            The Warriors without Steph would be a totally different team. Average FOR SURE.

            Ridiculous to discredit him for having a team of solid players and an all star in Klay.

            Sure I am biased, but 67 wins in a tough conference is no easy feat.

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            • SmartForce
              MVP
              • Mar 2015
              • 1845

              #115881
              Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

              First MVP in 16 years who didn't average 24 PPG, 10 RBG or 10 APG, going back to Malone in the lockout season, and only the 2nd ever with numbers so low.

              The only worse MVP selections are Nash's back to back ones that just still seem incredibly indefensible a decade later. Less than 20 PPG and just barely over 10 APG and he somehow won two consecutive MVP awards.

              That's something to give an SMH to.
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              • Rdubz12
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                • Feb 2014
                • 86

                #115882
                Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                Originally posted by SmartForce

                If you want to argue that Curry should be MVP because he's the best player on the best team ... that makes sense. If you define it as the player who is most valuable, it's going to have to be someone without whom his team would have been average or even a lottery team instead of a top tier team. (This, I believe, is the primary argument for Harden?).



                There's a ridiculous number of clips on youtube of Curry flopping and flailing. Reddit has discussions started by GS fans complaining about the Screen and Flop play that they run at the end of games the last couple years, with visual aids. Hell, the refs didn't give him the foul when he was clearly fouled on that 3 last week because he so frequently flails around like someone ran into him full speed when he's letting go of a 3.

                He's a clear all-star. Probably a 1st team All NBA guy. He may even be the MVP. That doesn't mean he's some paragon of sportsmanship who isn't just as much a flopper as the rest of his generation. They're all out there working the refs.

                OK a few points here..

                1) The "His team would only be a lottery team without him" is irrelevant, because if that is true, LeBron would have won 8x MVP's already. Secondly, to say Harden carries a bigger load than Steph does is foolish. To keep this short-ish, they both create a ton of offense for their teams, they just do it in different ways.

                2) Steph isn't just the best player on the best team. He's the best player on a historically great team.

                3) Everyone flops in the NBA, and if you want, I'm sure you could find haters of any team to post a flop video or "other bad trait of other team's best player that we can't stop" type video on youtube.. (See James Harden's bad defense video from this time last year).

                4) The refs were going to give him that foul if it didn't go in (I believe Zach Lowe said that on a Bill Simmons pod earlier this week), but because it went in, no foul was called. Which by the way, happens all the time, at all levels of basketball.

                5) Everyone works the refs. Every sport, every era. If you can gain some sort of competitive advantage without stepping outside the rules, you do it. Doesn't matter if you're Steph, LeBron, or Kwame Brown.

                6) For the post that happened while I was typing.. Steph averaged 23.8.. So to say he didn't average 24, and that's part of your reasoning, is pretty weak imo
                Last edited by Rdubz12; 05-03-2015, 08:17 PM.
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                • LAKERKING
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 2561

                  #115883
                  Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                  Originally posted by kolson21
                  Curry was selected as MVP
                  Well deserved!

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                  • SmartForce
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 1845

                    #115884
                    Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                    Originally posted by RunTMC
                    The debate is between Curry and Harden, one of them flops consistently and it isn't Steph.

                    The Warriors without Steph would be a totally different team. Average FOR SURE.

                    Ridiculous to discredit him for having a team of solid players and an all star in Klay.

                    Sure I am biased, but 67 wins in a tough conference is no easy feat.
                    The team I bleed for is already eliminated. The teams I would have rooted for because of sentimental reasons are also eliminated. Of the remaining teams, I'd very much prefer to see a Warriors - Wizards finals. I expect the Warriors side will happen .. pretty sure the Wizards aren't gonna make it unless Chicago takes out the Cavs, and even then the Wizards will have to play out of their minds.

                    So I guess you could say I'm probably rooting for the Warriors to win it all at this point. That doesn't obligate me to put on blinders and drink the Kool-aid and just pretend that Curry is some paragon of sportsmanship or something. He's a great player in a generation of players who all work the refs.

                    Kind of funny how irritated people get if you call the best player on the team they root for a flopper. The Rockets fans go crazy when Harden is called one. The Clippers fans go nuts when CP3 gets called out. And the Warriors fans all go crazy when Curry gets called out. {And this carries on and on through all the top players}.
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                    • SmartForce
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 1845

                      #115885
                      Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                      I'm not immune to that either. The people who are frothing at the mouth about Olynyk annoy me. I've watched that uncoordinated mess for awhile now, and I don't think he could have done that on purpose if he wanted to. He doesn't have the coordination to have taken out Love intentionally.
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                      • Vicious1
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2014
                        • 464

                        #115886
                        Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                        Originally posted by SmartForce
                        First MVP in 16 years who didn't average 24 PPG, 10 RBG or 10 APG, going back to Malone in the lockout season, and only the 2nd ever with numbers so low.

                        The only worse MVP selections are Nash's back to back ones that just still seem incredibly indefensible a decade later. Less than 20 PPG and just barely over 10 APG and he somehow won two consecutive MVP awards.

                        That's something to give an SMH to.

                        For you to based a MVP on typical stats like Pts, Rebs and Asst tells me it's not even worth debating with you.

                        Also too think Curry flops more than others or even needs to is quite laughable.

                        Curry's stats would even be higher if they didn't rest him for about 20 games in the 4th quarter. Check out his PER stat instead that gives more indicator on his efficiency.


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                        • tyecopeland
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 589

                          #115887
                          Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                          Originally posted by joesseoj
                          you needed a PG? wow
                          Pg was one of my weakest positions when I hit star tier too. Think they made all the pgs star level.

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                          • Brinkus
                            Pro
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 920

                            #115888
                            Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                            Harden was definitely more Valuable to his team. He kept his team afloat for about 3-4 months as the 2 seed without Dwight and a lot more average players than what the Warriors have. Warriors would've still probably been a playoff team had Curry or Thompson been hurt for the amount of time that Dwight was hurt, but definitely not the 2 seed.

                            Just another case and point that the best player on the best team wins it.

                            IMO, LeBron should've won it. He's like MJ, people get bored of giving him the MVP when it's clear that he's that every single year.
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                            • OhkamiL
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                              • Dec 2014
                              • 673

                              #115889
                              MyTeam Mobile Discussion

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                              • SmartForce
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 1845

                                #115890
                                Re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                                Originally posted by Vicious1
                                For you to based a MVP on typical stats like Pts, Rebs and Asst tells me it's not even worth debating with you.

                                Also too think Curry flops more than others or even needs to is quite laughable.

                                Curry's stats would even be higher if they didn't rest him for about 20 games in the 4th quarter. Check out his PER stat instead that gives more indicator on his efficiency.
                                I never said that Curry was the only flopper, or even that he was the most egregious. I also didn't say that his being the MVP with the worst stats since Nash and Malone in '99 meant that he shouldn't be the MVP.

                                The fact that you have to straw man what I'm saying (and put words in my mouth) kind of undercuts you mate. All of the players in contention for MVP are floppers, and I would have said the same thing no matter who won, because I find the whole thing where someone calls X player a flopper and a bunch of people get all riled up particularly amusing.

                                Congratulations on a great regular season and the best player on the team you cheer for winning the MVP award. Now let's see if they can bring home the award that will actually matter forever: The Larry O'Brien.
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