Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

[NWGameDad]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Why are there tiers in RTTC?

To set the rewards you pull off of the draft board, and to give you an idea of how far you can go in the event. If you are in ++ then you should be able to get the card rarity above with some challenge. Below that it will be tougher.

[NWGameDad]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

That's what i thought. Thanks for the response.

Can you please answer something for the season rewards? You guys understand that after the update, the difference of a Star Season win and a Legendary Season win, is just a mere 250 credits?

How is this fair or even logical? Can you please explain the thought process behind this decision?

What stops me from "weakening" my LU and play a common bench and go to Leg season (with 5-6 pro stars), where i will find significantly lower competition (no Pro MVP teams)?

See my previous post mostly.

As for dropping down, you can try it, but why would you give up free money? 150 Credits is not insignificant.

[Dextro]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Come on apos, you only have to play several seasons multiple 4 days to get the same amount. If this is not an improvement, then I really don´t know.

If you don´t have bread to eat, eat cake. Already the french mates know that

Furthermore the QF is all you need

[Pims95]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

See my previous post mostly.

As for dropping down, you can try it, but why would you give up free money? 150 Credits is not insignificant.

Seriously, 150 credits allow you to get a rare card. Woaaaaaaaah!

[Bud_McSmoker]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

To set the rewards you pull off of the draft board, and to give you an idea of how far you can go in the event. If you are in ++ then you should be able to get the card rarity above with some challenge. Below that it will be tougher.

This is exactly what I don't want. It seems unnecessary. I think we can all figure out how far we'll go in the event without being forced to draft in a tier below our QG's.

[apos1914]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

See my previous post mostly.

As for dropping down, you can try it, but why would you give up free money? 150 Credits is not insignificant.

I read your post. But i dont understand how is it fair that the winner of the top tier (which after the MVP cards became very difficult) gets the same reward with the tier below.

Star Seasons are swarming with multiple Pro MVP teams. In my last 8 seasons, in 6 of them i faced teams like that, so i ended 2nd most of the time.

[Dextro]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Seriously, 150 credits allow you to get a rare card. Woaaaaaaaah!

Play several season * 4 days and you may have the same result as soon as MyNBA2k16 is released.
Everything else is just a lie

[ocwng]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

See my previous post mostly.

As for dropping down, you can try it, but why would you give up free money? 150 Credits is not insignificant.

It is insignificant when you inflate the market with 10k credit packs for top tier cards. These credit rewards only benefit low level players which is not the case for star tier guys. And stop trying to say credits are powerful when you give us pennies, when we need hundreds to buy something useful.

[ocwng]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

And what's worse these are for star hof cards. You haven't even released playoff cards yet. What's the price for those packs 15k. You guys are playing a dangerous game here. We get your in it to make a profit but there is an ethical means and methods of doing it. And your PR spin on things are not helping the situation.

[eVizions]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I don't respond to many of the posts just because people are venting and there really isn't anything constructive there. I appreciate your post and question and will use it to explain a bit more.

To expand on what I have already said. The Seasons rewards were changed for a few reasons. First, we wanted a way to get free Credits to players that didn't have access to the Daily VC Bonus. We got a lot of feedback from the AH Beta that players wanted free Credits. However, we want players to earn those and not provide a means for the player to abuse the system to stack up thousands of free credits without playing. Seasons present that means of delivery. Seasons are free to begin with so there is nothing that denies any players from playing Season games.

Second, with the launch of the AH we added a new card economy. Since we don't restrict players from playing unlimited Quick Games or Season games we give out millions of cards each day. The card economy is simply too large right now to make the Auction House work right. We had to restrict the cards being pumped into the system. Reducing the Season rewards does that.

Third, with the AH and giving away a lot more free Credits allowing players access to buy things on the AH we had to make sure players didn't just skip from Rare to Star tier right away. With the AH players have a much easier avenue to Pro cards which is a significant means to progress. Given that we give you free Credits it isn't necessary to give you more random chances at cards in order to Pro them. Save your Credits and simply buy the exact card you need directly from the AH. It is a different means to progression than what players are used to, but a very powerful one.

With that said, we are looking at feedback and the data of what players are doing in game now that the changes are in place. Since Seasons take 4-5 days to complete we are not going to take immediate actions, we need the data possibly of a couple weeks to see what is happening in action. If we find things need to change we will change them. No different than the kind of analysis we did from the AH Beta or changes we have made to RC events in the past.

I don't think the sky is falling as some players believe because Season rewards changed. Giving out free Credits is very powerful to the player since they can spend them any way that they want. There are still card rewards going out from Seasons too. You can still win a Season and get a card a tier above you all for free.

Finally, just so people understand, we simply don't have the tech to run two different Season rewards at once. So changing rewards for Seasons already in progress is necessary when we change the rewards. We simply don't have a choice in the manner unless we locked Seasons for a week and didn't let anyone start a new Season during that time to bleed out in progress Seasions. Something I don't think players would want.

Note, my apologies for any weird typos or auto fill errors, I'm on my iPad.

Free players were asking for credits SO THEY COULD PUT THINGS UP FOR AUCTION. Your ridiculous 20 credit posting fee is responsible for that. Had you removed that and allowed us to post for free, nobody would've needed credits in the first place. I don't see how anyone could look at the solution you provided and consider it a better option.

150 credits is an insignificant amount of credits. 400 credits is an insignificant amount of credits, particularly since you replaced 2 Stars with it. You decided that Stars cannot be sold for anything less than 5k credits, yet replaced 2 of them with 400 credits. Unacceptable.

Finally, what you've passed off as an auction house is not a digital economy. There are way too many artificial limitations for this to be considered anything close. The sooner you guys realize that, the sooner you'll make your customers happy and reap the rewards.

Look around. If you decide to wait a few weeks, you may not have anything to salvage. This game is burning itself to the ground, Danan. It's time you guys put your tail between your legs and did the right thing. Fix this.

[Pims95]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

NWGD, I read your post and I appreciate your honesty. I myself felt like star season rewards were too high. I wouldn't have touched to lower tiers, but anyway. I regret this post comes 1 day too late as I felt my intelligence was insulted when you were stubbornly arguing that 400 free credits >= 2 stars, which you value at 5000 credits apiece.
Again, I appreciate you taking the time to explain what seems a defendable decision with HONESTY, I just hope next time around it comes quicker so that you don't make your customers feel insulted.
I have one question for you: in all honesty, how do you justify the maintained 30% tax rate?
PS: if you could consider adjusting the minimum prices for supports it would be nice!

[Dextro]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

50 pages of mostly negativ post and several other threads plus the answers from CD shows how solid they did their work

[Disca92]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

NWGD don't you think that you're insulting our intelligence saying that 400 credits are a huge benefit? And after that you have to pay 10k credits for a card, are you serious? Not to mention that 10k are near 80$, this game is going out of your hands with this prices that are not ethical.

[lowclood]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I don't respond to many of the posts just because people are venting and there really isn't anything constructive there. I appreciate your post and question and will use it to explain a bit more.

To expand on what I have already said. The Seasons rewards were changed for a few reasons. First, we wanted a way to get free Credits to players that didn't have access to the Daily VC Bonus. We got a lot of feedback from the AH Beta that players wanted free Credits. However, we want players to earn those and not provide a means for the player to abuse the system to stack up thousands of free credits without playing. Seasons present that means of delivery. Seasons are free to begin with so there is nothing that denies any players from playing Season games.

Second, with the launch of the AH we added a new card economy. Since we don't restrict players from playing unlimited Quick Games or Season games we give out millions of cards each day. The card economy is simply too large right now to make the Auction House work right. We had to restrict the cards being pumped into the system. Reducing the Season rewards does that.

Third, with the AH and giving away a lot more free Credits allowing players access to buy things on the AH we had to make sure players didn't just skip from Rare to Star tier right away. With the AH players have a much easier avenue to Pro cards which is a significant means to progress. Given that we give you free Credits it isn't necessary to give you more random chances at cards in order to Pro them. Save your Credits and simply buy the exact card you need directly from the AH. It is a different means to progression than what players are used to, but a very powerful one.

With that said, we are looking at feedback and the data of what players are doing in game now that the changes are in place. Since Seasons take 4-5 days to complete we are not going to take immediate actions, we need the data possibly of a couple weeks to see what is happening in action. If we find things need to change we will change them. No different than the kind of analysis we did from the AH Beta or changes we have made to RC events in the past.

I don't think the sky is falling as some players believe because Season rewards changed. Giving out free Credits is very powerful to the player since they can spend them any way that they want. There are still card rewards going out from Seasons too. You can still win a Season and get a card a tier above you all for free.

Finally, just so people understand, we simply don't have the tech to run two different Season rewards at once. So changing rewards for Seasons already in progress is necessary when we change the rewards. We simply don't have a choice in the manner unless we locked Seasons for a week and didn't let anyone start a new Season during that time to bleed out in progress Seasions. Something I don't think players would want.

Note, my apologies for any weird typos or auto fill errors, I'm on my iPad.

It 's a simple math question: as in star season finals winner get 400 credits and 2nd place get 200,ok, should they buy the 5 boost to make sure he/she can win the finals? One game cost 50 creditd and 4 games are 200, well if someone boost all for more than 4 games, he will eventually lose his credits if he just got 2nd place... so why should we waste our time&credit to boost up?
Second, the star season championship is 400 credits in about 4 days,and a star card's min is 5,000. It means one has to win 12.5 continuous season (about 50 days) to get a star ca in ah. It's ridiculous coz now is March 19 and mynba2k16 may come out in several months.also,it means people will have less star cards&credits to buy or sell(not to mention the 30% tax).It's both concerns with demand&sipply.
the BIN's min is too high limits people's transactions inAH as well.I hope the changes are on the right way. However, let's just wait and see

[Dextro]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Second, with the launch of the AH we added a new card economy. Since we don't restrict players from playing unlimited Quick Games or Season games we give out millions of cards each day. The card economy is simply too large right now to make the Auction House work right. We had to restrict the cards being pumped into the system. Reducing the Season rewards does that.

You give away millions of common and uncommon cards. Everything else is a lie, a reset in a higher tier takes easy between 200 and 300 boards. Which is roughly said something between 1500 - 2000 games.
Additional there is no big market for Rares, Super Rares, Ultra Rares or even Epics.
People are trying to sell stuff and buy pack a common. Is that how a auction house should work?

Let us talk about realistic numbers and not the things you trying to tell us. Reducing the season rewards for all tiers is unfair against newer players and players in lower tiers.
We do play with a lot of patience, what you are doing here is brazen!