MyTeam Mobile Discussion: Part 2 (Please Read the First Post Before Posting)

[kolson21]

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[wyld]

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the pay to play model for the most part only limits how fast a free player can progress (the exception being the greats) as every card is physically obtainable without real money (whether it's reasonable is a separate conversation).

cheaters (botters, speed hackers, etc) ruin the game for events that have a limited number of cards available to players such as RC. they also unfairly increase their odds for getting cards by the amount of games they can play and RP they can accrue. but even the best cards in the game aren't guaranteed by sheer force (mas had no BTC PO cards even with multiple ultimate, super, basic tries).

i think a lot of frustration is misguided. greed is a source of corruption and this responsibility should be shared by both the developers and the cheaters. one wants to be more profitable and one wants the best cards at any cost. BOTH contribute to the current state of the game.

[CAMeagle]

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Hmmm, just like prices are inflated directly or indirectly through mechanisms like taxes & fees to pay for security officers, police, firemen, etc. In the real world... seems like there's a booming market out there for anti-hacking/botting/cheating programmers who can make a decent living working on freemium games and better-than-good living working for corporations and military... and of course, someone has to PAY for them... (the users in this case...)

Another great point from another poster as well... whatever helps free players... is multiplied for paying players... and is exponentialized for cheating players... such a vicious cycle!!!

Anyways, pre-game up in about 90 minutes! I have another post regarding my first Good Agent experience, and possibly another thread about what I liked and didn't like in this year's app. Of course, have a few other things to update and post in my blog as well... game on!

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[Elite1216]

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the pay to play model for the most part only limits how fast a free player can progress (the exception being the greats) as every card is physically obtainable without real money (whether it's reasonable is a separate conversation).

cheaters (botters, speed hackers, etc) ruin the game for events that have a limited number of cards available to players such as RC. they also unfairly increase their odds for getting cards by the amount of games they can play and RP they can accrue. but even the best cards in the game aren't guaranteed by sheer force (mas had no BTC PO cards even with multiple ultimate, super, basic tries).

i think a lot of frustration is misguided. greed is a source of corruption and this responsibility should be shared by both the developers and the cheaters. one wants to be more profitable and one wants the best cards at any cost. BOTH contribute to the current state of the game.

I guess I'm just really missing the greed part. I'm not a CD apologist by any means, but do people want them to sell guaranteed pros for $5?

Forget profit and revenue for a second. If prices were lower, RTTC was laid back again, RC card was top 1000, and BTC ultimate pack guaranteed a PO card, what does this game look like? Is it really better?

Don't get me wrong, they like their money. But I also think they know that this game that requires zero skill and minimal strategy is not even close to deep enough to sustain anyone's interest if they made it any easier or cheaper than they already have.

Here's the thing. There's always going to be a few that are willing to throw thousands of dollars at the game. Not much is going to stop that. But there are many more that are willing to just throw hundreds. Problem that has raised this year versus last is that a dollar goes futher this year. Last year, for many that paid, it took thousands to get multiple pros from packs. This year, $100 during a pack sale could get you 4 RS pros.

[kolson21]

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I always love it when CD releases pregame on time!

[Chris_BWGER]

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Now you have them Kolson ;-)

[wyld]

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I guess I'm just really missing the greed part.

i think you're misinterpreting my message. greed is relative. i'm ok with the buying packs part. other than greats/throwbacks/rookies, you have a chance of obtaining every card you could possibly buy, freely. that makes it pretty fair in my opinion.

however, compared to the past, rttc requires either a large sacrifice of sleep or money. instead of managing the difficulty level of the event card to require a stronger deck, they opted to make players pay for time.

if players worked their butt off to obtain 25 of the highest tiered cards in the game they should be able to complete the event card faster than someone with 13. both have the ability to win all games at +7 if the guy with 13 doesn't have a completely lopsided deck.

as CAM stated, it's a vicious cycle. the more difficult CD makes it to physically complete events, the more likely people will try to find ways around it. is it just? absolutely not. but it's a game of cops and robbers that will always exist.

i side with CD on most issues. cheaters like to blame CD for "making" them cheat or "allowing" cheating to happen. every progression of this app shows this farther from the truth. is it a perfect system? of course not. but have more cheaters been caught and banned than ever before? you betcha. if you disagree, have no idea what it was like to play 2k14 or 2k15 when egbert's crew and other famous high end players ran this game.

[Elite1216]

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i think you're misinterpreting my message. greed is relative. i'm ok with the buying packs part. other than greats/throwbacks/rookies, you have a chance of obtaining every card you could possibly buy, freely. that makes it pretty fair in my opinion.

however, compared to the past, rttc requires either a large sacrifice of sleep or money. instead of managing the difficulty level of the event card to require a stronger deck, they opted to make players pay for time.

if players worked their butt off to obtain 25 of the highest tiered cards in the game they should be able to complete the event card faster than someone with 13. both have the ability to win all games at +7 if the guy with 13 doesn't have a completely lopsided deck.

as CAM stated, it's a vicious cycle. the more difficult CD makes it to physically complete events, the more likely people will try to find ways around it. is it just? absolutely not. but it's a game of cops and robbers that will always exist.

i side with CD on most issues. cheaters like to blame CD for "making" them cheat or "allowing" cheating to happen. every progression of this app shows this farther from the truth. is it a perfect system? of course not. but have more cheaters been caught and banned than ever before? you betcha. if you disagree, have no idea what it was like to play 2k14 or 2k15 when egbert's crew and other famous high end players ran this game.

My point is that if all those things were easier, what is this game like? Is it really better?

[wyld]

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My point is that if all those things were easier, what is this game like? Is it really better?

i'm not saying it should be easier. making things easier for everyone fixes nothing. i'm saying there should better levels of progression to help you through the game and motivate you to play. someone with 25 PO pros should have an easier time than someone with 13. otherwise, what's the use of getting 25?

[Elite1216]

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i'm not saying it should be easier. making things easier for everyone fixes nothing. i'm saying there should better levels of progression to help you through the game and motivate you to play. someone with 25 PO pros should have an easier time than someone with 13. otherwise, what's the use of getting 25?

CD would say 25 make BTC easier over someone with 13. But I'm not CD, and agree with you. In a thread a few months ago, I said it would be better to reduce the rttc point total, but make it that you had to beat the last card by 40 points in 50 games.

Overall, CD has to do something about progession in this game. It's way too easy. I'm confident that I could start from scratch and get a team to QG PO tier in 2 weeks. That's just stupid.

One problem I see with the game is there isn't a real mandatory progression. Start at Rare and without playing a single game, its possible to be at the highest tier. I've never played a game like that. I'm sure there is others, I just never played one. I think you should have to accomplish certain achievements at each tier to move up. Examples might be win 100 UR QG games, make UR playoffs 3 times, and complete Ultimate Domination goal in UR tier before you can play epic QG and seasons.

[MrDavison]

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CD would say 25 make BTC easier over someone with 13. But I'm not CD, and agree with you. In a thread a few months ago, I said it would be better to reduce the rttc point total, but make it that you had to beat the last card by 40 points in 50 games.

Overall, CD has to do something about progession in this game. It's way too easy. I'm confident that I could start from scratch and get a team to QG PO tier in 2 weeks. That's just stupid.

One problem I see with the game is there isn't a real mandatory progression. Start at Rare and without playing a single game, its possible to be at the highest tier. I've never played a game like that. I'm sure there is others, I just never played one. I think you should have to accomplish certain achievements at each tier to move up. Examples might be win 100 UR QG games, make UR playoffs 3 times, and complete Ultimate Domination goal in UR tier before you can play epic QG and seasons.

^^^^^^This guy is really smart. CD would be wise to listen to him and his ideas.

[wyld]

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CD would say 25 make BTC easier over someone with 13. But I'm not CD, and agree with you. In a thread a few months ago, I said it would be better to reduce the rttc point total, but make it that you had to beat the last card by 40 points in 50 games.

Overall, CD has to do something about progession in this game. It's way too easy. I'm confident that I could start from scratch and get a team to QG PO tier in 2 weeks. That's just stupid.

One problem I see with the game is there isn't a real mandatory progression. Start at Rare and without playing a single game, its possible to be at the highest tier. I've never played a game like that. I'm sure there is others, I just never played one. I think you should have to accomplish certain achievements at each tier to move up. Examples might be win 100 UR QG games, make UR playoffs 3 times, and complete Ultimate Domination goal in UR tier before you can play epic QG and seasons.

Elite, just wanted to say I always appreciate good intelligent conversation even if we're not always on the same page. Offering solutions (which I agree with Davidson are sound ones) is always a breath of fresh air compared to the usual continuous complaints.

[Elite1216]

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Elite, just wanted to say I always appreciate good intelligent conversation even if we're not always on the same page. Offering solutions (which I agree with Davidson are sound ones) is always a breath of fresh air compared to the usual continuous complaints.

Thanks. I feel the same.

[kolson21]

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[MrDavison]

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That extra 30 pts in enhancements made all the difference i guess.