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  • BrianFifaFan
    Semi-retired
    • Oct 2003
    • 4137

    #91
    Re: PC Impression's Thread

    Okay, this is about as close as I'm going to come to a rant about this game. I finally was able to get Drive Cam to be smooth enough to not give me a seizure by dropping the detail down to medium on players and crowd. Of course then it made them all super skinny and made the heads too big for the twig bodies. Was the microstutter still there? Yep. But minimized.

    I found myself totally stoked when Leftos and the others dropped the news we were getting the "next gen" engine. But we aren't. This game barely runs on any type of NVidia based system. Every setting you tweak messes up something else. I get smoothed graphics, but they look nothing like the maxed graphics. The players are literally half their size now. Look like they took up crack. And then my 360 controller is totally lagging now in response. Chris Paul now runs bow legged? Seriously? This game seems more like a programming project or a favor that was thrown together on the quick to give us PC guys a bone. As others have mentioned, there is no keyboard support. Big hint at how much of a barebones port this game is. I agree that this is a Xbone port that was not optimized for any NVidia system. That's why our stuff runs so poorly. It was written and optimized for the AMD S.O.a.C. And don't get me started about what a overhyped mess that is.

    I just found myself playing the game wishing that somehow we could meld last years graphics with this year's A.I. and added physics and animations. That would be the perfect game. But, instead I have a bunch of choices that add up to a frustrating experience. Thanks for the effort. This is not a knock on the desire to give us a PC gamers a full game. But, if you are going to do it, do it right. We paid full price in hopes this was the game that not only would have all the bells and whistles gameplay wise, but then could be made the graphics masterpiece that modding offers, and make all the console gamers want to build $2000 rigs. This is not that game. This is not even as good as the $30 game I bought 12 months ago. And that makes me sad. End of rant. Actually, I'm so let down by this game, I would say I'm not even at rant level. Just bummed. Out.....
    Note to Tiburon Marketing:

    A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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    • demencia_total
      No Way
      • Dec 2006
      • 698

      #92
      Re: PC Impression's Thread

      I can't believe I'm about to say this, but the game runs smoother on my PS4 than on my PC and it doesn't look half as bad. I was planning on trading in/sell the PS4 version if the PC version turned out great and while its totally playable, the micro stutter is driving me nuts. It doesn't matter that the game runs above 60FPS, AA or no AA, it still does it. Totally playable, but not buttery smooth. Sucks for me.

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      • brown19
        Rookie
        • Sep 2004
        • 28

        #93
        Re: PC Impression's Thread

        man i am sorry so many people are having problems.. i got the game running great for me. first off i have two gtx 780s 3gb in sli, i know it only uses one card though that sucks. i also have a i74820k cpu. i also have a 2560x1440p monitor. so i was having some stuttering i had everything maxed out, so what i did was try a little of everything.

        what i found worked great for me, i set antialiasing level to 1 and antialiasing quality to 0. then i upped my supersampling from 1 to 1.5 in the config file and that fixed the hair issue no more blur or haze.. and i must say the game is running great for me and it looks gorgeous!! and i am doing this supersampling at 2560x1440p monitor so i expect those using 1080p would have no problems.

        now you still need a strong graphic card to do this.. and i even went into my nvidia control panel and turned other graphic settings up!! the supersampling makes the picture so good and combining that with a 1440p resolution i am not seeing hardly any jaggies to even care about it cause the graphics are so good and again this fixes the hair issue.. and i am doing this with hardly any stuttering at all.. not enough to even care cause the trade off is soooo!! good!! it feels so smooth and the gameplay is the best i have seen!! not perfect but what is.. its a great game now that i have it working.

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        • nickthemajin
          Rookie
          • Oct 2014
          • 298

          #94
          Re: PC Impression's Thread

          Originally posted by BrianFifaFan
          Okay, this is about as close as I'm going to come to a rant about this game. I finally was able to get Drive Cam to be smooth enough to not give me a seizure by dropping the detail down to medium on players and crowd. Of course then it made them all super skinny and made the heads too big for the twig bodies. Was the microstutter still there? Yep. But minimized.

          I found myself totally stoked when Leftos and the others dropped the news we were getting the "next gen" engine. But we aren't. This game barely runs on any type of NVidia based system. Every setting you tweak messes up something else. I get smoothed graphics, but they look nothing like the maxed graphics. The players are literally half their size now. Look like they took up crack. And then my 360 controller is totally lagging now in response. Chris Paul now runs bow legged? Seriously? This game seems more like a programming project or a favor that was thrown together on the quick to give us PC guys a bone. As others have mentioned, there is no keyboard support. Big hint at how much of a barebones port this game is. I agree that this is a Xbone port that was not optimized for any NVidia system. That's why our stuff runs so poorly. It was written and optimized for the AMD S.O.a.C. And don't get me started about what a overhyped mess that is.

          I just found myself playing the game wishing that somehow we could meld last years graphics with this year's A.I. and added physics and animations. That would be the perfect game. But, instead I have a bunch of choices that add up to a frustrating experience. Thanks for the effort. This is not a knock on the desire to give us a PC gamers a full game. But, if you are going to do it, do it right. We paid full price in hopes this was the game that not only would have all the bells and whistles gameplay wise, but then could be made the graphics masterpiece that modding offers, and make all the console gamers want to build $2000 rigs. This is not that game. This is not even as good as the $30 game I bought 12 months ago. And that makes me sad. End of rant. Actually, I'm so let down by this game, I would say I'm not even at rant level. Just bummed. Out.....
          Not sure whats wrong with your system. I'm running it maxed out at 2560x1440 at 60fps with a gtx 780. Very rarely slows down, if ever.

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          • Daddy123
            Pro
            • Jun 2012
            • 993

            #95
            Re: PC Impression's Thread

            is it me or is the game blurry when running a fast break?? My graphics card is gtx780.
            Hey

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            • demencia_total
              No Way
              • Dec 2006
              • 698

              #96
              Re: PC Impression's Thread

              You gotta love PC gaming, even people with the same video cards can't get consistent results. Granted, this could all be avoided if the game had better optimization but nowadays I'm finding that a ton of games get released like this. I've messed with so many settings and I actually get less stuttering when I crank up the AAx8 at 1080p. I wish it wasn't there at all since its so minimal but it just drives me nuts knowing it.

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #97
                Re: PC Impression's Thread

                Yeah I'm pretty content where I am with no stuttering even though I'd love to crank my AA to the max. . It's still nice


                Also the blurry in fat moving objects. .. what kind of monitor refresh rate do you have?

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                • Daddy123
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 993

                  #98
                  Re: PC Impression's Thread

                  Originally posted by 23
                  Yeah I'm pretty content where I am with no stuttering even though I'd love to crank my AA to the max. . It's still nice


                  Also the blurry in fat moving objects. .. what kind of monitor refresh rate do you have?
                  60 hertz 10/charrrrrrrrrr
                  Hey

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                  • demencia_total
                    No Way
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 698

                    #99
                    Re: PC Impression's Thread

                    Man, I can confirm that at least for me the PS4 is so much smoother, no slowdown EVER and what it appears to be a locked 60 fps. It looks like the PC running at 1080 2xMSAA. In fact, the court textures look exactly the same even when I bump up the AA on the PC to 8x, you just notice the difference in the scoreboards outlines and some angles of the crowd, but you really have to be paying attention. I have them both running right now through my monitor playing Heat vs Spurs on both with the same camera and swapping around to check for differences. What a bummer.

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                    • agolden
                      Just started!
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 7

                      #100
                      Re: PC Impression's Thread

                      Sorry in advance for posting this in both requirements and impressions thread.

                      Guys i have that common problem of intense stuttering issues even at 60 fps. I ahve tried evrything. I think I could fix it if it wasn't that RadeonPro and Catalyst Control Center profiles don't work on the game. I can tell because if I turn off V-Sync in the in-game 2K menus, but do override force v-sync on in radeon pro or catalyst control center, the fps in my 2k15 goes way over 60, even on max settings.

                      So I need to figure out how to make these profiles apply to the game so I can try out the opengl triple buffering, and related, fixes.

                      Thanks.

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                      • demencia_total
                        No Way
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 698

                        #101
                        Re: PC Impression's Thread

                        Heads up, I've tried Triple Buffering but on Nvidia Inspector and it does nothing to fix the micro stutters. In fact, this has been a problem since their first release on PC but it only pops up on certain systems configurations. Some people eventually fine fixes, some don't mind it at all, while others like myself on 2k12 could never figure out how to fix it on a Radeon card and went back to console version.

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                        • Goffs
                          New Ork Giants
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 12278

                          #102
                          Re: PC Impression's Thread

                          Originally posted by demencia_total
                          Heads up, I've tried Triple Buffering but on Nvidia Inspector and it does nothing to fix the micro stutters. In fact, this has been a problem since their first release on PC but it only pops up on certain systems configurations. Some people eventually fine fixes, some don't mind it at all, while others like myself on 2k12 could never figure out how to fix it on a Radeon card and went back to console version.
                          This actually worked for me...the close up camera cuts no longer look as stuttery...I still get the fps drop to 30 at odd times...

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                          • Walt Frazier
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 989

                            #103
                            Re: PC Impression's Thread

                            Just a note on the PC version...


                            Mods may be a LONG way off this year.


                            Some things, like faces, may not even be able to be done.


                            Let's hope not, as they add a tonne of 'freshness' to the game. I always switch to the PC once they start flowing, but early signs are not good.

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                            • Goffs
                              New Ork Giants
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12278

                              #104
                              Re: PC Impression's Thread

                              Originally posted by Walt Frazier
                              Just a note on the PC version...


                              Mods may be a LONG way off this year.


                              Some things, like faces, may not even be able to be done.


                              Let's hope not, as they add a tonne of 'freshness' to the game. I always switch to the PC once they start flowing, but early signs are not good.
                              Yeah I kinda figured that it's going to be tough to mod. Ugh we are stuck with that ugly big baby Glen Davis....

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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #105
                                Re: PC Impression's Thread

                                Originally posted by Daddy123
                                60 hertz 10/charrrrrrrrrr
                                I mean like 2ms 8ms??

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