Arenas are responsible for (at least some of) the stuttering issues

[QNo]

I get stable 60fps in the 71 Lakers arena, smooth gameplay. Still stuttering when the camera turns, freethrows, timeouts, cheerleaders, but it's beautiful. Even online is very playable like this. In other arenas my FPS is between 40 and 55, which is just about playable offline, but terrible online. Try out the 71 Lakers arena and let me know what you think. There are likely other 'good' arenas, too. I've played online with several friends, they also run the game smoothly in the Lakers arena but lag in others.

[Leftos]

Re: Arenas are responsible for (at least some of) the stuttering issues

Is every arena other than that this much worse? Any specific names that are the worst for you?

[QNo]

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Is every arena other than that this much worse? Any specific names that are the worst for you?

Custom arenas (in MyTeam) seem to be the worst. I've heard someone say that the Grizzlies arena is also fine, haven't confirmed this myself though. I'll do this later today. Gauntlet is also completely fine. Hoping that some other people can confirm/deny the arena thing, maybe we can find out which ones are the good ones together.

FWIW I don't have the best PC, so I'm not one of the guys with a sick rig that really should run everything smoothly on full settings. But I've lowered my settings a lot, which worked alright for 2k15, and 2k16 Gauntlet and this court.

[joosegoose]

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Is every arena other than that this much worse? Any specific names that are the worst for you?

I can confirm that the '71 Lakers arena works better than most for me...not enough of an improvement to run at my 2k15 settings on it but I can run at slightly higher than minimum settings and get 60 fps.

As far as arenas that run the worst, I mentioned this on NLSC but the Staples Center (Clippers at least) for sure causes problems. There are probably others as well, but I definitely struggle to get a consistent 60 fps even on bare minimum settings there.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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While using broadcast camera the framerate increases as the camera pans in closer to the ballhandler. But once the camera pans out the framerate decreases. For me it doesn't matter whether i have the crowd enabled or disabled. It still happens.

[flo182]

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I had some problems playing the Knicks at Madison Square Garden. Most other arenas work fine. Maybe have to tune down my settings a bit further. The patch helped a lot though! Thanks Leftos for the good support of PC Community!

[joosegoose]

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Oh yeah, it's probably self-evident and doesn't need to be said but why not. The Gatorade practice gym allows for a ridiculous improvement in performance (at least for me). It feels like a completely different game in there...I can run at my 2k15 settings and then some. Only mentioning it because even though I expected a positive difference in there, it still made a bigger improvement than I expected.

[psydefx]

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this isn't the case for me. i get the same slow-down/stuttering in the 71 arena as i do in any of the modern arenas. gameplay is silky smooth, EVERYTHING else stutters - even menus, lol.

[Rip4ever]

Re: Arenas are responsible for (at least some of) the stuttering issues

It is Gilbert's fault?

I knew it, that guy always seemed like trouble.

[pazmacats]

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I had a truly revolutionary playing experience in the summer league arena. I was like "****, everything is soooo smoooth!"

I really don't understand why rendering a bunch of chairs makes such a big difference (camera angles, the closer the better). I have crowd disabled. GTX 750ti, 2GB RAM. Should be good enough to run the game on low settings.

Also commentary is a problem. Game improves when commentary bugs out/stops.

Other than that: The game is fantastic (when it runs as silky smooth as it is supposed to run). Hope the problem is found some day

[TarHeelPhenom]

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I can confirm that this is true that the framerate in the 71 Lakers arena is more stable than others. I wonder if its because the stands are further back from the floor? Or the camera is better optimized in this arena??

[Nza]

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I had some problems playing the Knicks at Madison Square Garden. Most other arenas work fine. Maybe have to tune down my settings a bit further. The patch helped a lot though! Thanks Leftos for the good support of PC Community!

Yep MSG is the worst performing stadium to date for me too.

[pazmacats]

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It seems as if turning off the crowd via the .cfg file does not completely disable the crowd.

Camera angles that show much of the crowd (2K cam): Bad performance.
Camera angles that show less of the crowd (broadcast): Better performance.
Game situation that show much of crowd (made basket in 2K cam): Bad performance.
Arenas that have a large crowd: Bad performance
Arenas with small/no crowd (training, summer league): Good performance.

For me, this is true with crowd turned on or off via the .cfg file.
Turning off the crowd does help a bit, but the amount of crowd that would have to be rendered if crowd wasn't turned off, is still a factor.

Edit: options/features: scrimmage mode (no commentary) is 15 FPS faster than Play Now (offline). Same teams, same arena.

Design arena: default arena (default colors, no logos) is 10 FPS faster than customized arena with custom color+custom logos+custom text.

[QNo]

Re: Arenas are responsible for (at least some of) the stuttering issues

It seems as if turning off the crowd via the .cfg file does not completely disable the crowd.

Camera angles that show much of the crowd (2K cam): Bad performance.
Camera angles that show less of the crowd (broadcast): Better performance.
Game situation that show much of crowd (made basket in 2K cam): Bad performance.
Arenas that have a large crowd: Bad performance
Arenas with small/no crowd (training, summer league): Good performance.

For me, this is true with crowd turned on or off via the .cfg file.
Turning off the crowd does help a bit, but the amount of crowd that would have to be rendered if crowd wasn't turned off, is still a factor.

Edit: options/features: scrimmage mode (no commentary) is 15 FPS faster than Play Now (offline). Same teams, same arena.

Design arena: default arena (default colors, no logos) is 10 FPS faster than customized arena with custom color+custom logos+custom text.

Fantastic post, this is the kind of stuff that helps the devs figure out a solution. I'm starting to get very hopeful that I can play this game lag-free sometime

FWIW, Gauntlet and Park are very smooth for me, no complaints there. Neither has any crowd. The Grizzlies arena wasn't nearly as good as the 71 Lakers Arena, unlike what someone else told me.

[PandaPower2k]

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Fantastic post, this is the kind of stuff that helps the devs figure out a solution. I'm starting to get very hopeful that I can play this game lag-free sometime

FWIW, Gauntlet and Park are very smooth for me, no complaints there. Neither has any crowd. The Grizzlies arena wasn't nearly as good as the 71 Lakers Arena, unlike what someone else told me.

Same here, Gauntlet-Park vs Play Now-Rttp is like day and night.

Playing Gauntlet and Park is soooo much smoother.

I get fps lag when playing Play Now and Rttp despite disabling the crowd and using lowest settings...