Things that need to be fixed imo

[petersondagreat]

1.Ratings were terrible last year even though you can edit the ratings were pitiful. Lebron 83 Wade 78 and Im a sixers fan so you Know AI got robbed 85 yeah right I think Iverson should be right up there with Kobe and Tmac since he is a more comeplete player than those guys but enough with all that

2. Steals were insane once again play full court press and buzz aroung the inbounder and watch how many steals go down even with the steals and intercept on 0

3. Blocks WOW! what can I say let me name a few players who were infamous for ticking me off in 05 Ben and Rasheed Wallace Gasol Olawakandi Bradley Dikembe Ratliff KG Dalembert Swift just to name a few

4. Freestyle Madness everyone should know what I mean this is where you have a player who is a krab or a so so player such as Michael Finley Darius Miles and as long as his dribbles werent too low and he had a good dunk rating look out. I watched somebody score 93 points with Finley against one of my patnas online ridiculus.

5. FastBreaks needs no explanation did not exist in live 05

6. Shooting I consider myself a excellent live player Ive one many tourny because I know that Dirk and Michael Finley are great (ON LIVE) but what im getting at is Dirk Peja and other over size players for their position are so easy to use because the height is all that matters on live. if I have Dirk and my boy has bruce Bowen I will score at least 40 with dirk because bowen isnt 6'11 now I know Dirk is a 4 and bruce is a 3 but come on Bruce can somewhat slow dirk down. Earl boykins who is very very short as you all know is absolutely useless on live because of his HEIGHT he cant play D and every pg will block him when he attempts a shot. Iverson can easily be shut down by a player like Shawn Livingston hell even Boris Diaw because he is so short now in reality if Diaw were to gaurd AI we might have a new NBA record for points in a single game

7. the tip in button now for those of you who dont know about the tip in glitch sorry but if you attempt a shot and instead of pressing triangle for the reb press circle rapidly and watch your player jump like a monkey untill he gets a tip in example use lebron james and spin and freestyle your way to the hoop and hit square to dunk and if you dont get fouled blocked or complete the dunk you should get one of those no call animations in which you miss most of the time and start smashing circle and watch dosent work all the time but when it does cheap 2 points this will result in stat lines like this 44 pts 1 ast 2 stl and 33 rebs with Lebron or anyone even Boykins

[id0l1zed]

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the best point u made was #6.

height did play a HUGE part in '05.. everything u said was right on

and yeah thank god no more lame blocks like in '05

[DW Rutledge]

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if tim duncan is rated the same as paul pierce again this year i might lose it.

[Ofizzle]

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Game ratings are based on overall ability as a player, not neccesarily on just how good you are at the game. Pierce probably gets the same rating as Duncan because of stupid things like his Dunk and jump rating, and then also because of speed and quickness. People put too much on the overall ratings...

Iverson is not a better overall player than Kobe and Tmac. They're both better rebounders and shooters, and in 03-04, Iverson was still a SG, so they were just as good passers from the SG spot. They are also both better clutch offensive players, and better defenders. Adding to that, their dunk ratings will give them about 4 more overall rating points than Iverson who would doesn't dunk much anymore, and even if he did it still wouldn't be that high.

Now with the individual ratings, they screw up a lot of them, the stars are pretty good, but outside of that, it's terrible. From things like Brad Miller, Carlos Boozer and Randolph not having a mid-range game to rookies getting shafted from things they can do: Devin Harris unable to shoot FT's, Ben Gordon being slow and having weak handles, Luke Jackson being a bad shoot, many PG's having low dribble ratings, and horrible ratings in terms of athleticism for many players.

[goldisheavy]

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i think the live's development team needs to be fixed, and ea sport's approach to basketbal gaming.

[petersondagreat]

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Iverson is not a better overall player than Kobe and Tmac. They're bothbetter rebounders and shooters, and in 03-04, Iverson was still a SG, so they were just as good passers from the SG spot. They are also both better clutch offensive players, and better defenders. Adding to that, their dunk ratings will give them about 4 more overall rating points than Iverson who would doesn't dunk much anymore, and even if he did it still wouldn't be that high.

I strongly disagree I think he is equal if not better if you really look at it. I will give you the rebounding and we all know why they rebound better. Lets look at the stats when Iverson played the 2 in 03 and 04 he led all 2 gaurds that year in assist and the majority of the pg besides maybe nash marbury kidd and maybe 2 or 3 others. Shooting yes they both shoot better percentage but evaluate each sitiuation McGrady has Yao a dominent post player wich gives him a little more breating room Kobe had Odom and Butler pretty much nobody which resulted in the lakers having a terrible season and kobes numbers to drop off proving he is not capable of carrying the load by his self at least not at this point n his carer he doent get teamates involved at all its just the kobe show. In Philly Iverson has C webb and som up incoming talent but they arent there yet kind of the same sitiuation as Kobe no other real scoring threat but he will get you MVP number and to the playoffs on a Lack Luster team (sorry philly) and defense he is in the top 3 in steals every year the dunking thing is ridiculus anybody who has followed AI's career can tell you he has hops he just chooses to save his legs with the type of game he plays ask Camby who got the NBA courtside countdown dunk of the year in 98- 99 AI thats who and Mcgrady had a similar sitiuation in his last year with the magic which he put up crazy numbers but resulted in D. Howard being their first pick and if you ask me all three of them are streaky none are pure shooters . So with that said there is absolutely no way anyone can justify AI being a 85 and Kobe being a 97 along with T-Mac imho Lebron is better than all 3 he does everything

[Pratt75]

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i think the live's development team needs to be fixed, and ea sport's approach to basketbal gaming.

I definately agree with this statement. Live is to much flash and not enough substance.

[Ofizzle]

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Their's no arguing about the shooting, Iverson just isn't that good a shooter from outside, it's just how it is, shooting is not really his game. Iverson has shot under 30% from outside the past 3 seasons before 04-05, how can anyone argue he's a better shooter or even as good? He can get hot, and hit shots, but that's not being good, that's just streakiness. His mid-range game is also very streaky. McGrady on Orlando had a worse team than Iverson in 02-03, and 03-04, and he still shot a better FG% and 3PT% even with worse teammates. While Yao is nice, Webber is just as effective offensively, and Houston is a slow paced defensive team which does not help offensive players in terms of percentages and averages.

Iverson has great heart, hustle, and determination, but that doesn't make him a good shooter. Yes, we know why they're better rebounders, because of height, but the game doesn't factor rebounding into the rating with relation to heigth, so what can we do. You also neglected the fact that they get about 3-4 more overall rating points from the difference in their dunk rating alone, and Iverson plays about 2 more MPG [might not seem like a big deal, but when you look at PER minute numbers, it makes a little difference]

Luster team (sorry philly) and defense he is in the top 3 in steals every year the dunking thing is ridiculus anybody who has followed AI's career can tell you he has hops he just chooses to save his legs with the type of game he plays ask Camby who got the NBA courtside countdown dunk of the year in 98- 99 AI thats who and Mcgrady had a similar sitiuation in his last year with the magic which he put up crazy numbers but resulted in D.

Iverson is older, his vertical has decreased. You mentioned his dunk on Camby [who was on my Raptors then] in 98-99, and I said he doesn't dunk ANYMORE, anymore isn't 98-99, it's 04-05 and beyond. He can still dunk, but for us smaller guys, their's no need to be dunking when it takes extra energy, and if he doesn't dunk IN GAMES, why would he have a high dunk rating? I also never said anything about his jump rating, I said dunk rating, Iverson still has hops. Even when Iverson could dunk, it was just two and one handers, so he still wouldn't get close to the same dunk rating as them, because at 5'11, you just can't do the same things. Kobe and Tmac have about 90's in dunk, Iverson can't do baseline windmills, reverse dunks, etc etc in games.

So with that said there is absolutely no way anyone can justify AI being a 85 and Kobe being a 97 along with T-Mac imho Lebron is better than all 3 he does everything

Well in my game, I edited Iverson up to about an 87, and I had Kobe and Tmac go down to both being at about 94-95 because they overatted them, but I don't look at overall as long as the individual ratings are right, who cares? Lebron is better overall on offense, but is currently a very poor defender. Steals does not dictate good defense [you also mentioned steals in defense of Iverson's D, though Iverson is a slightly above average man to man defender], anyone that plays basketball knows that. Lebron's shooting and scoring also isn't as advanced as their's yet, but in he's right behind them already, and in the future as his defense [and offense] improves, he will surpasss them all.

Iverson's rating advantages: Speed, Quickness, Pass, Steal, Dribble
Kobe and Tmac's: Rebound, FG, 3PT, Dunk, Block

The difference is that Iverson's advantages are more minimal.
These are approx..
------Iverson | Kobe | Tmac
Steal: 95 | 70 | 85
Block: 5 | 40 | 35
Dunk: 40 | 88 | 90
Dribble: 99 | 87 | 85
FG: 73 | 85 | 81
3PT: 65 | 74 | 77
Pass: 87 | 78 | 75
OReb: 15 | 30 | 20
DReb: 31 | 49 | 58
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Overall: 510 | 601 | 606

Kobe + 91
Tmac + 96

Assuming every 12 points = 1 overall rating point [which is about how it is], then Kobe + 7.6, and Tmac + 8 on Iverson. So if Iverson is 85, Tmac would be at least about 93.

Does that make it more understandable? It has nothing to do with how much you can win on the floor or anything like that. Duncan would only be about 91, he's not that athletic, and no a great all-round player like KG or someone, but when people rank the best players in the league, he's normally #1.

[petersondagreat]

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You made some good points I see what you are saying all Im saying is that just like in madden what you do on the floor should be what matters most because when I use the sixers on live playing on default Iverson is just a body out there getting steals and getting blocked I do the majority of the scoring with webber Korver and Iggy but when I play ESPN Basketball he is a force to deal with Im very anxious to see how they rate him this year after winning the scoring title again and having a mvp type season and kobe having a lack luster season

[Vast]

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You made some good points I see what you are saying all Im saying is that just like in madden what you do on the floor should be what matters most because when I use the sixers on live playing on default Iverson is just a body out there getting steals and getting blocked I do the majority of the scoring with webber Korver and Iggy but when I play ESPN Basketball he is a force to deal with Im very anxious to see how they rate him this year after winning the scoring title again and having a mvp type season and kobe having a lack luster season

Iverson should always be a threat, he can take over the game any moment. and is to fast for anyone to guard, has a great shot off the dribble, and dont even get me started on his crossover. ... anyways he should be just as vicious in the game, unfortunately live dev team is unfocused. If ur an iverson fan go with 2k6 this year.