"There will be no demo"

[djordan]

Ok guys i just got the word.....

There will be NO DEMO of the game hitting Xbox Live

I repeat NO DEMO

Also to clear any confusion up... All platform versions will be available on the 26th (Tuesday release date)

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DaKiNgRoUnDHeRe4 (EA.com)

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?sls=2&tstart=0&threadID=120910

[WTF]

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That's no suprise to me. There's no way they'd put out a demo right now. I still look forward to seeing how it plays though.

[aholbert32]

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http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread....hreadID=120910

This isnt suprising. I wouldnt release a demo before release unless the game llooks and plays better than 2k7 and it doesnt look like it will.

[SXL]

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i wanna buy it, was hoping for a demo first though.
Def will grab 2k7 and rent live now.

[spankdatazz22]

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I kind of suprised they allowed themselves to be totally [I won't say it] - we haven't seen anything like this since EA cancelled Madden when faced with what 989 was offering many years ago. But I don't blame them for not releasing a demo either. There are people hanging on every two-bit website's previews as long as they're positive; every 5-second scrap of marketing/highlight video. I don't know how the game will turn out, but there really is no logical reason not to give out information other than what they have doesn't stack up to the competition. Given what we've seen the past month it's obvious there's going to be a sizable contingent of fans that will always buy Live - regardless of whatever action or inaction EA does

[jerry0211]

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The game could look and play like Atari basketball and people would still buy it because of the name.

[Pared]

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It's a shame, b/c I wanted to try it... but I'm not surprised at all.

I would bet anything the reason they won't release a demo is because they know Live can't compete this year. They would rather get purchases from those willing to "take the chance" than to give them a demo where they can try it out and directly compare.

[pistonpete]

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It's a shame, b/c I wanted to try it... but I'm not surprised at all.

I would bet anything the reason they won't release a demo is because they know Live can't compete this year. They would rather get purchases from those willing to "take the chance" than to give them a demo where they can try it out and directly compare.

most people in EA's position wouldn't release a demo either: if they have a stranglehold on the industry and can live off of brand recognition, then what do they gain? even though most companies say they are interested in the consumer, they really aren't. the only reason 2k listens is because they want to be in EA's position where they don't have to listen, (even if they don't consciously take that posture). i venture to say that if 2K ever overtakes EA, people will gripe about them in the same tone they do about EA today. when a company becomes as big as EA and 2K (international multimillion and multibillion dollar captains of industry) the personal responsibility is lost...its a fact of life whether consumers admit it or not...

pistonpete

[spankdatazz22]

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i venture to say that if 2K ever overtakes EA, people will gripe about them in the same tone they do about EA today. when a company becomes as big as EA and 2K (international multimillion and multibillion dollar captains of industry) the personal responsibility is lost...its a fact of life whether consumers admit it or not...

pistonpete

Well, that's hard to say with any certainty. I think anytime a company becomes huge, it becomes less about the consumer and more about profit and maintaining it's status. 2K tried to take the EA route and suffered for it. Once they pulled back and stopped trying to match EA title for title, it resulted in better games. EA's flooding the market with subpar titles that are taking away from the quality of the core games. This situation should be embarrassing for them, and embarrassing for the people trying to piece scraps of information together just to get an idea of what the game will be - but unfortunately it isn't. Which means this cycle will likely continue.

[koolbubbaice]

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most people in EA's position wouldn't release a demo either: if they have a stranglehold on the industry and can live off of brand recognition, then what do they gain? even though most companies say they are interested in the consumer, they really aren't. the only reason 2k listens is because they want to be in EA's position where they don't have to listen, (even if they don't consciously take that posture). i venture to say that if 2K ever overtakes EA, people will gripe about them in the same tone they do about EA today. when a company becomes as big as EA and 2K (international multimillion and multibillion dollar captains of industry) the personal responsibility is lost...its a fact of life whether consumers admit it or not...

pistonpete

Totally Agree.. I felt this way for a long time..2K wants be where EA is.. One reason why they are so eager to reach out to us.. If 2K, was making money like EA, I think they would care less about want we want, cause they wouldn't need our purchase to make a profit..2K needs every purchase, & still can't compete with EA's Live with total units sold..

[pistonpete]

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^^^^^^

yeah, that's why i lol at guys who are homers for 2k...the minute they become EA-like in their corporate culture and mentality ppl will start bashing them. i guess the thing to do is to go with the company that is more consumer friendly at the time and ride that cycle until it ends and then jump on the next one that comes along. i really do think though that EA realizes that it is very subpar to 2k in bball and they actually worked on the game this year instead of phoning it in. this would be a win-win for us as consumers. personally, i hope that each game is solid (we already have reason to believe 2k is based on the demo) because then everybody's wants/needs (use that term loosely) could be met.

[JOEdellis]

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Who cares, buy it and support the nba.

[CS10029]

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Ill buy the one thats better and support my wallet.

[spankdatazz22]

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Totally Agree.. I felt this way for a long time..2K wants be where EA is.. One reason why they are so eager to reach out to us.. If 2K, was making money like EA, I think they would care less about want we want, cause they wouldn't need our purchase to make a profit..2K needs every purchase, & still can't compete with EA's Live with total units sold..

Have to disagree with that. It's not like every company that "makes it" changes the way they do business. Is the level of attention every large business shows it's customers the same across the board? Of course not. You constantly have one trying to outdo the other, because of competition. While I'm sure most would rather not have to go out of their way to cater to their customers, because of competition most realize that if they don't do it someone else will.

EA can do what they want because people willingly give them that power. It's the Battered Wife syndrome, where people get mistreated yet always want to hope for the best; instead of using the power they have at their disposal to make them act right. You're right in one aspect; if 2K behaved the same way they'd stand more to lose. But just as most of us likely aren't rich, I assume if we suddenly became rich we wouldn't somehow automatically forget what it was like to not be rich - you'd have an appreciation of where you came from.

[Leahmic223]

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Have to disagree with that. It's not like every company that "makes it" changes the way they do business. Is the level of attention every large business shows it's customers the same across the board? Of course not. You constantly have one trying to outdo the other, because of competition. While I'm sure most would rather not have to go out of their way to cater to their customers, because of competition most realize that if they don't do it someone else will.

EA can do what they want because people willingly give them that power. It's the Battered Wife syndrome, where people get mistreated yet always want to hope for the best; instead of using the power they have at their disposal to make them act right. You're right in one aspect; if 2K behaved the same way they'd stand more to lose. But just as most of us likely aren't rich, I assume if we suddenly became rich we wouldn't somehow automatically forget what it was like to not be rich - you'd have an appreciation of where you came from.

Yeah I agree here.

Just because someone or a company makes it big doesn't mean they are going to change the way they do business. Not if they realize what made them big in the first place.

It is like most artist start off small. But some artist get big and usually just release mediocre music just because they know people are going to buy it still. Then some artitst make music for the artistic calue within it.

Some artisit go for getting a positive artistic response, while some go for topping the Billboards.

Same way with games. Some games go for Game of the Year, some go for Most sold in the year.

GTA3 was a unknown game. It sold millions of copy and some may have suggested that they were going to slack off for VC. But they didn't, they made it better than GTA3, then some said 'Well, they could slack off for SA" Nope. They made San Andreas better than both of their previous outings.

They could sell a mediocre GTA title, but Rockstar refuses to let that happen.