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  • Jonesy
    All Star
    • Feb 2003
    • 5382

    #16
    Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

    Originally posted by mutumbo888
    wow can you be any more pesimistic about an amazing revolutionary idea. some people will love this feature so sorry its not for you. there are ways around the douchefest you speak of. have fun playing vs yourself/cpu while everyone else will be playing the most realistic form of videogame basketball to date.

    It's not going to be "revolutionary" unless you have 10 sim players all trying to play their roles and if you've had anything to do with xbox live you know that there appear to be more people who act like morons than would be wanting to play realistically.

    Have fun with everyone wanting to be Kobe and hogging the ball every trip down court and going for the full court steal 80% of the time. I think my pessimism is justified.

    The only way (other than assembling 10 like minded players) this could work is if you assigned different importance for different players. Ie Bruce Bowen gets graded on shutting down his player, steals, charges taken and 3 point shots made. Duncan gets graded on points, rebounds and block shots. Parker gets graded for points and assists and so on. That way you won’t end up with 10 people trying be a scoring machine with guys like Elson and Bowen every game.

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    • stephensonmc
      WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
      • Mar 2003
      • 2105

      #17
      Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

      Originally posted by Jonesy
      It's not going to be "revolutionary" unless you have 10 sim players all trying to play their roles and if you've had anything to do with xbox live you know that there appear to be more people who act like morons than would be wanting to play realistically.

      Have fun with everyone wanting to be Kobe and hogging the ball every trip down court and going for the full court steal 80% of the time. I think my pessimism is justified.

      The only way (other than assembling 10 like minded players) this could work is if you assigned different importance for different players. Ie Bruce Bowen gets graded on shutting down his player, steals, charges taken and 3 point shots made. Duncan gets graded on points, rebounds and block shots. Parker gets graded for points and assists and so on. That way you won’t end up with 10 people trying be a scoring machine with guys like Elson and Bowen every game.
      BUT.....if you get a game with people who know and want to play basketball, it's fantastic.
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      • Jonesy
        All Star
        • Feb 2003
        • 5382

        #18
        Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

        Yeah i can imagine it would be. I'll def be trying it out!

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        • Altimus
          Chelsea, Assemble!
          • Nov 2004
          • 27283

          #19
          Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

          With 10 sim players this could be really cool.

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          • RoyalBoyle78
            Aka."Footballforever"
            • May 2003
            • 23918

            #20
            Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

            Originally posted by stephensonmc
            Guys,

            This is not even an issue. "Fix gameplay instead of gimmicks" is not the answer at all here.

            I hope you realize that we have different teams doing different things in NBA LIVE 08. Gameplay and Online Team Play are two completely different things.
            well it seems that all the teams are not ever on the same page, I mean come on man, I do like live, but now it just sits there because the offensive rebounding is broken, just patch that, and I will be ok.
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            • pastapadre
              Pro
              • Mar 2004
              • 588

              #21
              Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

              Originally posted by Jonesy
              It's not going to be "revolutionary" unless you have 10 sim players all trying to play their roles and if you've had anything to do with xbox live you know that there appear to be more people who act like morons than would be wanting to play realistically.

              Have fun with everyone wanting to be Kobe and hogging the ball every trip down court and going for the full court steal 80% of the time. I think my pessimism is justified.

              The only way (other than assembling 10 like minded players) this could work is if you assigned different importance for different players. Ie Bruce Bowen gets graded on shutting down his player, steals, charges taken and 3 point shots made. Duncan gets graded on points, rebounds and block shots. Parker gets graded for points and assists and so on. That way you won’t end up with 10 people trying be a scoring machine with guys like Elson and Bowen every game.
              I see a mode like this geared more to people playing with others they know.

              I don't understand the sentiment that mode additions should cater to the lowest common denominator. Just because there may be some jackasses out there doesn't mean it shouldn't be added. There are many people out there who will enjoy playing this way. It will be a completely unique experience. From what I've read of people who use the online team play (3 on 3) in NHL 08 they rave about how fun it is.

              This is something I've wanted for years and it fits perfectly for basketball. I can't wait.

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              • DLaren
                MVP
                • Sep 2006
                • 1476

                #22
                Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                I love this idea...Props EA



                P.S. Stephen, shoot an e-mail over to the Madden team and show them how to add this idea to their game!

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                • mutumbo888
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 308

                  #23
                  Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                  Originally posted by Jonesy
                  It's not going to be "revolutionary" unless you have 10 sim players all trying to play their roles and if you've had anything to do with xbox live you know that there appear to be more people who act like morons than would be wanting to play realistically.

                  Have fun with everyone wanting to be Kobe and hogging the ball every trip down court and going for the full court steal 80% of the time. I think my pessimism is justified.

                  The only way (other than assembling 10 like minded players) this could work is if you assigned different importance for different players. Ie Bruce Bowen gets graded on shutting down his player, steals, charges taken and 3 point shots made. Duncan gets graded on points, rebounds and block shots. Parker gets graded for points and assists and so on. That way you won’t end up with 10 people trying be a scoring machine with guys like Elson and Bowen every game.
                  why assume that everyone who plays this will be a jackass who doesn't know how to play?

                  there's team cooperation in FPS online games so why is it so hard to believe that gamers would cooperate in basketball? if EVERYONE's ranking and record is dependant on if your team wins, then that would make for more teamwork. plus ballhogging is bad strategy, it would just cause the other team to double and triple team you, thus you lose, thus your rank goes down and rating doesn't go up.

                  freestyle basketball for the pc was a good model. i've played it. had a ton of fun playing it even with its crap graphics and minimal animations. people will pass, because if you ball hog, you'll lose.

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                  • ExtremeGamer
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 35299

                    #24
                    Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                    When this comes out, this will get me to buy Live. Great idea!

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                    • GSW
                      Simnation
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 8041

                      #25
                      Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                      I think its gonna be hard to find 9 other people that want to play seriously.
                      #Simnation

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #26
                        Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                        Originally posted by mutumbo888
                        why assume that everyone who plays this will be a jackass who doesn't know how to play?

                        there's team cooperation in FPS online games so why is it so hard to believe that gamers would cooperate in basketball? if EVERYONE's ranking and record is dependant on if your team wins, then that would make for more teamwork. plus ballhogging is bad strategy, it would just cause the other team to double and triple team you, thus you lose, thus your rank goes down and rating doesn't go up.

                        freestyle basketball for the pc was a good model. i've played it. had a ton of fun playing it even with its crap graphics and minimal animations. people will pass, because if you ball hog, you'll lose.
                        Unless you have 5 friends who are willing to play more than a couple games then I guarantee that you're not going to have a great time playing with random people who hog the ball. It's bad enough playing with one guy who cheeses, playing with 9 would be unbearable.
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #27
                          Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                          Originally posted by Golden State Warrior
                          I think its gonna be hard to find 9 other people that want to play seriously.
                          That's probably the biggest issue with this. It's great that, if they find the right amount of people, they can if they want to.

                          Hell, imagine if you and 4 other friends just want to get a game as your own team!
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                          • djep
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 1128

                            #28
                            Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                            Hey stephensonmc - if you guys implement a Halo-style party system, this mode will definitely make me buy the game. This way if we only have 3 or 4 friends playing at any time we can jump in a game anyways. Just because we have the option to play full on 5-on-5 doesn't mean we can't play 3-on-3, etc. right?

                            This is a great feature that can change the landscape of sports gaming. I know FIFA was planning on having this but basketball is perfect for this type of mode. Not that I would have any fun playing as Bruce Bowen or whatever. As long as we can choose individual players and make our own teams......

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                            • pastapadre
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 588

                              #29
                              Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                              Originally posted by djep
                              Hey stephensonmc - if you guys implement a Halo-style party system, this mode will definitely make me buy the game. This way if we only have 3 or 4 friends playing at any time we can jump in a game anyways. Just because we have the option to play full on 5-on-5 doesn't mean we can't play 3-on-3, etc. right?

                              This is a great feature that can change the landscape of sports gaming. I know FIFA was planning on having this but basketball is perfect for this type of mode. Not that I would have any fun playing as Bruce Bowen or whatever. As long as we can choose individual players and make our own teams......
                              You can have any combination up to and including the 5 on 5. 2 on 2, 2 on 3, 2 on 4, and so on. You don't need to fill out all 10 slots, the AI just takes over the open ones.

                              I wonder if you'll be able to do team play along with the Quick Pick Play. Everyone would be able to choose the player they wanted and lock into them. That would be pretty cool.
                              Last edited by pastapadre; 10-12-2007, 10:50 AM.

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                              • stephensonmc
                                WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 2105

                                #30
                                Re: NBA Live has a patch comming for online five-on-five

                                Originally posted by Pared
                                That's probably the biggest issue with this. It's great that, if they find the right amount of people, they can if they want to.

                                Hell, imagine if you and 4 other friends just want to get a game as your own team!
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