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  • joel0078
    Pro
    • Sep 2006
    • 754

    #1

    hot spots problem.....

    I took a decent 3 point shooter and increased his 3 pt shooting rating, thinking this would increase the likliehood that his 3's would fall. After doing this, I noticed his hot spots were still ALL blue around the 3 pt arc and 3's are rarely dropping, even after increasing his 3 pt rating to 99 to test this.

    Hot spots seem to play a bigger role than the players adjusted rating. Increasing his rating does nothing, as far as I can tell. The pre set hot spots seem to take a preference in the computer deciding whether or not the shot goes in.

    I can't see the sense in being able to edit a players rating, yet in actuality, the likelihood that the shot will or won't go in, hasn't changed, as a result of the pre set hot spot not adjusting to the rating increase. Has anyone else had any experience that either supports or disputes this observation?
  • Court_vision
    Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 8290

    #2
    Re: hot spots problem.....

    Originally posted by joel0078
    I took a decent 3 point shooter and increased his 3 pt shooting rating, thinking this would increase the likliehood that his 3's would fall. After doing this, I noticed his hot spots were still ALL blue around the 3 pt arc and 3's are rarely dropping, even after increasing his 3 pt rating to 99 to test this.

    Hot spots seem to play a bigger role than the players adjusted rating. Increasing his rating does nothing, as far as I can tell. The pre set hot spots seem to take a preference in the computer deciding whether or not the shot goes in.

    I can't see the sense in being able to edit a players rating, yet in actuality, the likelihood that the shot will or won't go in, hasn't changed, as a result of the pre set hot spot not adjusting to the rating increase. Has anyone else had any experience that either supports or disputes this observation?
    The hot spots are based on the actual NBA players percentages in those area's last season.

    If you change the ratings, the hot spots don't change...they are based on real stats.

    Hitting 3 point shots isn't overly hard...from non hot spots...maybe you're releasing the ball late or something?

    If you've got a clear shot...you should be able to make it.

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    • joel0078
      Pro
      • Sep 2006
      • 754

      #3
      Re: hot spots problem.....

      Originally posted by Court_vision
      The hot spots are based on the actual NBA players percentages in those area's last season.

      If you change the ratings, the hot spots don't change...they are based on real stats.

      Hitting 3 point shots isn't overly hard...from non hot spots...maybe you're releasing the ball late or something?

      If you've got a clear shot...you should be able to make it.

      I guess you didn't know that timing of release has nothing to do with this years game, aside from the 3 point contest. I'm not saying hitting shots from non hot spots is hard. I'm saying your chances are obvioulsy decreased, otherwise the feature would be pointless. Increasing the overall 3 point shot rating should increase your chance of hitting the shot, but it doesn't because the fact still remains that the hot spots don't change from hot to cold or vice versa.

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      • Court_vision
        Banned
        • Oct 2002
        • 8290

        #4
        Re: hot spots problem.....

        Originally posted by joel0078
        I guess you didn't know that timing of release has nothing to do with this years game, aside from the 3 point contest. I'm not saying hitting shots from non hot spots is hard. I'm saying your chances are obvioulsy decreased, otherwise the feature would be pointless. Increasing the overall 3 point shot rating should increase your chance of hitting the shot, but it doesn't because the fact still remains that the hot spots don't change from hot to cold or vice versa.

        Timing still is a huge factor. You just get a slight boost in those areas.

        If you have your feet set and are open...from my experience with the game anyway...the shot is falling much more often than if I shoot off balance with a man in my face.

        You seem to be implying you can't make any three's unless you're in a hot spot and you can't hit any threes?

        No one else seems to be having that problem?

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        • sabresfan
          Rookie
          • Jul 2003
          • 414

          #5
          Re: hot spots problem.....

          Originally posted by Court_vision
          The hot spots are based on the actual NBA players percentages in those area's last season.

          If you change the ratings, the hot spots don't change...they are based on real stats.

          Hitting 3 point shots isn't overly hard...from non hot spots...maybe you're releasing the ball late or something?

          If you've got a clear shot...you should be able to make it.
          Have you seen Anthony Parker? The fourth best 3-point shooter in the NBA last season, yet he's blue in every single hot spot behind the arc. Gimme a break.

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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #6
            Re: hot spots problem.....

            Originally posted by Court_vision
            Timing still is a huge factor. You just get a slight boost in those areas.

            If you have your feet set and are open...from my experience with the game anyway...the shot is falling much more often than if I shoot off balance with a man in my face.

            You seem to be implying you can't make any three's unless you're in a hot spot and you can't hit any threes?

            No one else seems to be having that problem?
            Timing is not a factor in jumpshots. Remember reading somewhere that it was removed to keep the stats in line with what they should be. Mentioned directly by a dev. or such in an interview.
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            • stephensonmc
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              • Mar 2003
              • 2105

              #7
              Re: hot spots problem.....

              Originally posted by Pared
              Timing is not a factor in jumpshots. Remember reading somewhere that it was removed to keep the stats in line with what they should be. Mentioned directly by a dev. or such in an interview.
              this is correct, although Court_vision is right. We have over 12 variables that go into our hot spots.

              Feet set, how open, balance and other variables all play a factor in the success rate of your shot.
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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #8
                Re: hot spots problem.....

                Originally posted by stephensonmc
                this is correct, although Court_vision is right. We have over 12 variables that go into our hot spots.

                Feet set, how open, balance and other variables all play a factor in the success rate of your shot.
                Right. Thanks for the clarification.
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                • ledzep
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Re: hot spots problem.....

                  Originally posted by stephensonmc
                  this is correct, although Court_vision is right. We have over 12 variables that go into our hot spots.

                  Feet set, how open, balance and other variables all play a factor in the success rate of your shot.
                  Are you sure? B.Ulrich in his blog of May 25, 2007 said this:
                  "So we removed the early and late release animations to make sure players would look like their real selves when shooting, and we tuned the numbers under the hood to make the user input on early and late releases more realistic. "

                  I see him saying timing doesn't affect the animation, but I don't understand that like "timing is not a factor anymore"
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                  • stephensonmc
                    WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 2105

                    #10
                    Re: hot spots problem.....

                    Originally posted by ledzep
                    Are you sure? B.Ulrich in his blog of May 25, 2007 said this:
                    "So we removed the early and late release animations to make sure players would look like their real selves when shooting, and we tuned the numbers under the hood to make the user input on early and late releases more realistic. "

                    I see him saying timing doesn't affect the animation, but I don't understand that like "timing is not a factor anymore"
                    And Brian is right, there is no timing on shots this year.
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