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  • HoosierDaddy
    Pro
    • Jul 2005
    • 863

    #901
    Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

    IMO, the game overall still lacks necessary and critical features. Crisp passing, realistic dunks, on-the-fly subs/settings, better ball physics, etc..

    Something that has always bothered me in Live games -- the player models look decent, but there's not one player who is just skinny, normal or fat. They have bulging muscles with definition. Some players are just normal with very little muscle definition.

    I'll still be getting the game because I feel EA is headed in the right direction, and I LOVE how EA staff is finally listening to the consumers and using our feedback. I'd want to push the envelope, so to speak, to implement and fix the basic part of the game before adding more bells and whistles in 2010.

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    • WTF
      MVP
      • Aug 2002
      • 20274

      #902
      Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

      Take a look at Ilgauskas. He doesn't have any muscle definition in the screens. They nailed him perfectly. His arms are pretty much flub, haha.

      They have some differentiated bodies.... but I know what you mean.
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      • DW3
        MVP
        • Oct 2005
        • 1056

        #903
        Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

        Originally posted by WTF
        Take a look at Ilgauskas. He doesn't have any muscle definition in the screens. They nailed him perfectly. His arms are pretty much flub, haha.

        They have some differentiated bodies.... but I know what you mean.
        I agree with you. I like how lives players actually look like ball players. Most except for a few are lanky. I don't see anything wrong with the body types.
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        • HoosierDaddy
          Pro
          • Jul 2005
          • 863

          #904
          Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

          I posted some pics in the NBA Live pictures thread. Let's get this thread back on topic with impressions of demo, etc..

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          • bls
            MVP
            • Oct 2003
            • 1786

            #905
            Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

            Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
            IMO, the game overall still lacks necessary and critical features. Crisp passing, realistic dunks, on-the-fly subs/settings, better ball physics, etc..

            Something that has always bothered me in Live games -- the player models look decent, but there's not one player who is just skinny, normal or fat. They have bulging muscles with definition. Some players are just normal with very little muscle definition.

            I'll still be getting the game because I feel EA is headed in the right direction, and I LOVE how EA staff is finally listening to the consumers and using our feedback. I'd want to push the envelope, so to speak, to implement and fix the basic part of the game before adding more bells and whistles in 2010.
            Lacks realistic dunks? I've seen nothing but realistic dunks especially in the half court offense, unlike 2k where you do all kinds of windmills and between the leg dunks in traffic on 3 defenders. I starting to think everyone has a different type of demo lol.

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            • infamousD
              Rookie
              • Sep 2008
              • 19

              #906
              Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

              Originally posted by bls
              Lacks realistic dunks? I've seen nothing but realistic dunks especially in the half court offense, unlike 2k where you do all kinds of windmills and between the leg dunks in traffic on 3 defenders. I starting to think everyone has a different type of demo lol.
              Lets not turn this to a live vrs 2k but I gotta agree with bls live done a good job this year from the demo of keeping the dunks more realistic and to the nature of the player, your not gonna be pulling the same dunks with Allen and Pierce as you would with kobe and there not over the top.

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              • HoosierDaddy
                Pro
                • Jul 2005
                • 863

                #907
                Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

                I'm talking about dunks with the off-hand for everyone. And big men underneath the basket doing tomahawk 1 handers. Those aren't realistic at all.

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                • Beluba
                  Gameplay Director, NBA2k
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1389

                  #908
                  Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

                  Originally posted by KDRE_OS
                  Any way to make the crowd feel more involved in the action

                  Full arena participation cameras flashing fans cowbells signs hecklers dancing fat guys, lol the whole nine
                  I can't make a game with dancing fat guys. But we definitely agree the arena needs more life.

                  And yeah, please put requests in the Live '10 wishlist thread.

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #909
                    Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 & PS3

                    EA's sucking the life out of the OS Wish lists thread. I love it!
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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #910
                      Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 &amp; PS3

                      Originally posted by Beluba
                      I can't make a game with dancing fat guys. But we definitely agree the arena needs more life.

                      And yeah, please put requests in the Live '10 wishlist thread.


                      Sure will

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                      • bls
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1786

                        #911
                        Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 &amp; PS3

                        Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                        I'm talking about dunks with the off-hand for everyone. And big men underneath the basket doing tomahawk 1 handers. Those aren't realistic at all.
                        But a between your legs Kobe allstar dunk in the middle of traffic around like 2 or 3 defenders in an actual Nba game is realisitic?

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                        • HoosierDaddy
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 863

                          #912
                          Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 &amp; PS3

                          I didn't mention about 2k or between the legs dunks? What I meant by unrealistic is what I said above, that's it. Too many off-hand dunks which is unrealistic, as well as the big men doing tomahawk 1 handers.

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                          • bakesalee
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 596

                            #913
                            Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 &amp; PS3

                            I'm a 2k player since this current gen (360) began, but only gave up on Live because like all EA titles, it was suffering from EAitis.

                            However I always enjoyed (as in, more fun playing someone) Live more in last gen (Xbox).

                            As I watch these videos I can't help but think that Live looks more realistic (player movements, passes). 2k can be pretty herky jerky, and I hate the weird robotic pivots to inbound the ball and stuff like that. It's looking less like a video game than the competition. I'm not seeing as many passes to someone standing 2 feet away. The court looks big as it should.

                            Maybe I just need something fresh.

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                            • bls
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1786

                              #914
                              Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 &amp; PS3

                              Originally posted by bakesalee
                              I'm a 2k player since this current gen (360) began, but only gave up on Live because like all EA titles, it was suffering from EAitis.

                              However I always enjoyed (as in, more fun playing someone) Live more in last gen (Xbox).

                              As I watch these videos I can't help but think that Live looks more realistic (player movements, passes). 2k can be pretty herky jerky, and I hate the weird robotic pivots to inbound the ball and stuff like that. It's looking less like a video game than the competition. I'm not seeing as many passes to someone standing 2 feet away. The court looks big as it should.

                              Maybe I just need something fresh.

                              I totally agree with you. I actually thought 2k8 was very fluid movement wise, I didn't they needed to adjust anything but the lead passing and revamp the lock on D along with making the dunks alittle more realistic. But other than that everything was good to me.

                              But after watching these 2k9 videos I actually feel as though they went backwards with the fluid movements. I'm not sure why so many people say live is herky jerky, because when you see the 2k9 vids its so much of that going on, no foot planting at all and the sliding is at a all time high to me.

                              In live when you watch the player movement and how they set up plays its just so much like basketball to me. Players move aggressive to there spots and agressively call for the ball in the low post. The fakes like there going to one spot then to another, you can tell it was 5 on 5 motion captured. But in 2k when I watch it, its kinda like the movements are lazy, players just walking around to there spots and such. Theres no since of agressiveness or urgency to me.

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                              • jtdribbles25
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1415

                                #915
                                Re: NBA Live 09 Demo Released, Impressions Here 360 &amp; PS3

                                Originally posted by bls
                                I totally agree with you. I actually thought 2k8 was very fluid movement wise, I didn't they needed to adjust anything but the lead passing and revamp the lock on D along with making the dunks alittle more realistic. But other than that everything was good to me.

                                But after watching these 2k9 videos I actually feel as though they went backwards with the fluid movements. I'm not sure why so many people say live is herky jerky, because when you see the 2k9 vids its so much of that going on, no foot planting at all and the sliding is at a all time high to me.

                                In live when you watch the player movement and how they set up plays its just so much like basketball to me. Players move aggressive to there spots and agressively call for the ball in the low post. The fakes like there going to one spot then to another, you can tell it was 5 on 5 motion captured. But in 2k when I watch it, its kinda like the movements are lazy, players just walking around to there spots and such. Theres no since of agressiveness or urgency to me.
                                what about actually playing the game. there's no denying the fluidity of the animations in 2k versus live. When watching the vids though, it's pretty close. I don't like how in live the players are so skinny though. I just finished watching the commercial, and I hate some of the dunks, just way to stiff. I like the big man finishes though.

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