NBA Live 09 - Czarisode 1 Constant Variation

[Da_Czar]

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The Czar's demonstration of the multiple looks from the one set was great, but what I didn't like was that it was always effortless for KG to establish great position on the block.

JF I assure that was not the case. In fact I had to pick plays to show before I kept running the same play to get that kind of position. Pau really fought him that is why I highlighed his good post position because Pau really did get good position. now if it was because of the pressure on the ball that kept me from making the entry pass on time or if it was because of Pau I don't know. but it was def not a tip toe through the tulips...lol i had to hand pick those...

Hey Big up to everyone who stopped by and said whats up I appreciate you family .... you know how we do !!!!

Hell I had another 15 minutes of footage but had to remind myself these are suppossed to be short and sweet .LOLOL

[richmo]

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"DAMN!" The way you said that, lol.

I love your vids though. Always make me love the game of hoops that much more. Much respect homie.

[Jano]

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Great vid Czar can't wait to see what you have in store next time.

[RubenDouglas]

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good stuff. question, can you change the variation in GAME or just in the menu?

[ehh]

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Awesome video and awesome feature. Although this is great to see in Live I think it can be even better in NCAA Basketball 09, it will allow motion offenses to be run so much better than in CH2K8. A play creator would be nice too.

This is revolutionary in every aspect. I love the idea and it's long overdue in a basketball game. Even in CH2K8 where you can create your own play, by and large you're just creating a quick hitter (or a I guess "long hitter" if you add a ton of steps) but there were no variations. If you were suppose to throw it to the SG on the wing but he was covered you swung it to the SF on the opposite wing then the play simply died. It looks like Live will solve that.

Live is still going to be a rental for, but I'm certainly excited to see how this feature pans out for the future.

[ehh]

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question, can you change the variation in GAME or just in the menu?

That's the beauty of this feature, you don't have to do anything in terms of setting up playbooks or extra plays, it's all read-and-react. If you don't pass the ball to player A as designed in variation 1, he will cut through (or something similar) and the play will still continue as variation 2 and so on and so forth. It's brilliant.

[RubenDouglas]

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That's the beauty of this feature, you don't have to do anything in terms of setting up playbooks or extra plays, it's all read-and-react. If you don't pass the ball to player A as designed in variation 1, he will cut through (or something similar) and the play will still continue as variation 2 and so on and so forth. It's brilliant.

ahhhh i get it now. it just SHOWS up in the playbook and lets me seeing the 4 variation animations... letting me know whats up.. Perfect execution on their part imo. instead of being in the dark, I can get an understanding.

[jfsolo]

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JF I assure that was not the case. In fact I had to pick plays to show before I kept running the same play to get that kind of position. Pau really fought him that is why I highlighed his good post position because Pau really did get good position. now if it was because of the pressure on the ball that kept me from making the entry pass on time or if it was because of Pau I don't know. but it was def not a tip toe through the tulips...lol i had to hand pick those...

Hey Big up to everyone who stopped by and said whats up I appreciate you family .... you know how we do !!!!

Hell I had another 15 minutes of footage but had to remind myself these are suppossed to be short and sweet .LOLOL

That's good to hear. Also, I don't think any of us would have had a problem seeing the extended version of the piece.

[23]

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LOL man, it probably took him hours to make that much

[Juice Malone]

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Get that man a marketing job. He just sold me on live 09

[BigRan]

As I have said numerous times....... Live has truly stepped up their game. The floor spacing is a HUGE part of why these things work. I never have played from that camera view but it gives you an EXCELLENT view of the court...... and I like it MUCH better than 2k's cam.

I have been playing the demo a while and it is the 1st time in a game where I felt I could punish someone for perpetual double-teams. The spacing on the court makes it where you can pass across the court and it is too much ground for a defender to cover to block your shot (without turboing to them, but that will allow you to drive around them).

I also like the fact that if you make contact with another player you are NOT going to dunk...you are going to attempt a layup of some kind. Also, many people feel that the animations are a bit stiff (with a robotic feel)...... and while that may be true it forces people to not be able to simplyiso-dribble into the lane with ease.

[Termi]

awesome work! keep em coming!

[Jonesy]

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Just a quick note to say thanks to Czar for putting that together, you a credit to the community.

[DC]

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I am up at 6:30 and just happened to be browsing OS. I see this video and I go turn Live on. I am going to give it another chance. I didn't like it at first and turned it off after one quarter a week ago.

Thanks Big Cazr and this play calling system is beautiful. Simple and something you would THINK was already in a basketball game. This is beautiful man

[BigRan]

Also to Czar.......

Your video was as always...... excellent. I was unawre thate play variations were actually listed in the playbook, I simply noticed them during gameplay.

I also appreciate the fact that you try to be unbiased in your take on both games (Live and 2k). Live has definitely made some improvements to their game. I REALLY like the presure defense that will allow you to body-up on a person. I can really see this as being EXTREMELY effective against a person that is simply trying to get to the lane. By doing this and backing off, you can help keep them out of the lane as much. Especially with the defenders.

Live's improvements are the PERFECT example of why having both companies producing games is great. Live had DEFINITELY brought some improvements that 2k is going to have to address in order to stay competitve:

1) Court spacing
2) New 'Pick and Roll' control
3) Player DNA (updated rosters)

Now of course 2k still kills Live in some areas though..... The shooting in 2k COMPLETELY destroys Live. The shot-stick is simply too good, and the shooting-styles make a huge difference as well. In Live the shooters feel almost exactly the same. The shooting motions don't look right for 80% of the players. Also the free-throw shooting mechanic in Live is too easy. The best free-throw system I have ever played was in Insdie Drive on the original Xbox.

It was simple and made it difficult for poor shooters. You were likely going to miss withthem on your 1st shot because you had to adjust to the speed of the moving ball.

Anyway, let me conclude with this..... it is FINALLY nice to have 2 quality products for basketball from 2k and EA. Both will easily be getting my money this year.