NBA Live 09 - Czarisode 1 Constant Variation

[Da_Czar]

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That's good to hear. Also, I don't think any of us would have had a problem seeing the extended version of the piece.

Jf I went back through my stuff and I saw that Its only through ball pressure and playing the passing lane that they keep you from getting great position. They will take away that corner pass and pressure the ball so it takes you longer to get that pass inside or make the pass a longer pass.

You are right they need to tighten that up where pau is more aggressive. What they do keeps it from getting boring though but He or other post players should be more anxious to fight. Great eye JF. I will be doing a constructive criticism vid and that will be in there.

I ran the same play for hours on end though and never got bored though. So i think that says a lot for how they address that issue.

[Da_Czar]

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Thanks again to everyone who stopped by to post. Its appreciated...

Live at first looks the same but under the covers they have a few things going right. If you can get past the things that remind you of its past there appears to be a foundation forming. I think we as a sim community have to be loud about what they are doing right that we like and help the newbys so they don't go back to the old way of doing things.

They have Super B on deck. We already know what he can do and he is like having one of our own in the EA dev meetings pushing more of a sim product. All of us 2k fans know what happened when he put that 2k8 animations thread in right after 2k7 launched.... 2k8 was NIiiiice. hehe.

I think were in for one Hell of a hoop season this year !!!

[ehh]

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ahhhh i get it now. it just SHOWS up in the playbook and lets me seeing the 4 variation animations... letting me know whats up.. Perfect execution on their part imo. instead of being in the dark, I can get an understanding.

Yeah, I didn't understand it at all until this video. I'm on PS3 so I haven't played the demo yet. Needless to say I was very excited after watching the video.

[DC]

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Man these playbooks are vicious. I am loving it forreal. I just am so used to using the shot stick to shoot that I am a ******** Live player at the moment. Still don't know if I would buy both games though. $60 is a lot of $

[BigRan]

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Thanks again to everyone who stopped by to post. Its appreciated...

Live at first looks the same but under the covers they have a few things going right. If you can get past the things that remind you of its past there appears to be a foundation forming. I think we as a sim community have to be loud about what they are doing right that we like and help the newbys so they don't go back to the old way of doing things.

Can't stress this enough. I was like some of you and felt initially that Live was the same as last year.... but after playing some games and running trough some of the plays, you can definitely see the benefit.

For the first time, this game makes screens a valid threat. Players like Rip Hamilton, Paul Pierce, and Ray Allen are going t obecome so much more effective for the pop and shoot. I can now truly abuse people who simply try to double team the whole game because the spacing is going to allow me to find someone OPEN. And by open I mean that i swill be able to ake an uncontested shot with them in that location. That is real basketball my friends. It is part of the risk-reward you gamble on after a switch that create a mismathc and how you choose to handle it. In the past you could simply double-team and take a large man in the middle of the lane and he could defelct allot of the passes to you open man. And to make matters worse, the defender could close that gap to you once-open man by the time he has the ball.

I agree with the Czar, we have been blasting EA for not being SIM and not taking real NBA tendencies into account. I think they have stepped up and are improving. I can say that they actually are doing some thing better (and in some ways alot better) than 2k now.

EA should be commended for that. the beauty o this is that now 2k has some option to consider putting into their game next year.

[ehh]

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I agree, this is something that is MAJOR, imo. Even with innovations like 2K's "show the play diagram on the floor" last year, basketball has still be extremely far behind in terms of team play, running plays, making reads and reacting, etc. Basketball games have for the most part been isolation games and quick-hitters. Hopefully this will change all that forever.

[WTF]

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Excellent video my man. You never cease to amaze me. Can't wait for the PS3 demo to drop, so I can play this for myself. Definitely looks like they've addressed the things that we've been asking for.. and "Super B" is bringing over what he's brought to every titlte he's worked with.

Very nice Czar!

[frostbyte06]

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Let me join the list of people admitting that I didn't give Live a long enough look. Czar, nice video and analysis you held it down as usual. Only a few more weeks, what will I do?....guess I can watch some Olympic basketball re-runs.

[highpressure]

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Czar. You Da Man!

Thanks for breaking down the bball games each year. Honestly, I think a lot of people would never know that so much more exist in these games than meets the eye, without these very detailed, and professionally created vids of yours.

I always love your in-depth explanations, and attention to every single detail of the elements of the game you are demonstrating. You truly bring to light many things that would otherwise be hidden from the casual gamer. Great job man! Keep up the excellent work!

[23]

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Tell him hp

Czar, hp this is an old NBA Inside Drive head so you know things have to be right to impress him

He knows his stuff and so do you and honestly, something good is going to happen for you with this stuff one day. Keep it up man

[Stumbleweed]

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Finally got around to watching this -- great stuff, as always. I'm gonna play some more tonight -- haven't played in a few days and I want to explore all these variations. The whole system is clearer now after watching the video.

[SageInfinite]

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Tell him hp

Czar, hp this is an old NBA Inside Drive head so you know things have to be right to impress him

He knows his stuff and so do you and honestly, something good is going to happen for you with this stuff one day. Keep it up man

[23]

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The variations can be a complete weapon for people playing 5v5 online

Can you get practice together as a 5 player team before you get in the games?

This video is basic by Czar's standards but it shows you alot. Its loaded and this was just the Celtics with Doc Rivers offense.

[Stumbleweed]

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Yeah, I'm gonna go home and run all the variations in the Lakers offense, I liked the plays that they had available. And I LOVE that you can customize your plays in the demo -- I was totally surprised at the depth that they left intact for a demo.

[slvicick]

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Its loaded and this was just the Celtics with Doc Rivers offense.

Aww mann, that had me crackin up