NBA Live 09 Review

[RaychelSnr]

I know it isn't just EA doing this, but it seems like they do it a lot. PC games have done it for years due to internet connection and hard drive, and we are really seeing an increase in console patches. Getting a game "largely working well" before it releases is not a good goal to have. I understand ambitions and deadlines and all that jazz, but there are some games that are released basically broken. It is sad that games are not required to be finished, or actually work, before they are released, and unfortunatly that makes patches a neccesary evil.

Unfortunately it is definitely the nature of the beast nowadays. As companies continue to try to figure out what makes them the most money, we'll continue to see the process change, but the vote that really matters in this is the consumer. Unfortunately, EA's games continue to sell well so they have zero incentive to change how they do business.

Honestly, when EA's sales even begin to slip a little (Madden, FIFA, Live) you see them redouble their efforts to produce better games quality wise

[RaychelSnr]

It really is the nature of the beast with sports games and the yearly cycle.

With always updated player movements, yearly renewal of league licenses and cut-throat competition, we may never see the mammoth undertaking of a 3 year developed sports game again.

I think money talks in this case. There is more money to be made making small yearly updates than releasing one epic game every 3 years

[Pared]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

Yeah, to put it frankly it "sucks."

We're the ones to blame as well... the consumer.

[rikkifer]

sure ea made a few mistakes but overall the game is solid have already played nine games in dynasty (i am 7-2) love the defensive lockdown controls and the dynamic dna and cant wait to see how 365 works generally i am very pleased with the game and have no qualms about playing it for a long time to come so 2k can just bite the proverbial bullet

[NBAfan#109287322]

open ur eyes people...call me what u want...fanboy or whatever..live sucks...it has for years...it was never going to do well on next gen consoles purely because they built a fan base because they had no direct competition..but now the likes of 2k series have a better foundation.. agreed that games never come out of the box to suit everyone..thats why u can tweak things with sliders and settings....down and dirty.. live has bad graphics and the motion capturing is horrible, they don't even have signature shots...wtf? how can it be realistic if you don't have that....sure adding FIBA teams and the likes of Live 365 (which i have been told you need to pay for??), the 2k series have only played with things that need to be changed, i will continue to buy 2k games, until EA sports makes some serious improvements, but hey each to their own, thats why they have forums...

[ExtremeGamer]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

open ur eyes people...call me what u want...fanboy or whatever..live sucks...it has for years...it was never going to do well on next gen consoles purely because they built a fan base because they had no direct competition..but now the likes of 2k series have a better foundation.. agreed that games never come out of the box to suit everyone..thats why u can tweak things with sliders and settings....down and dirty.. live has bad graphics and the motion capturing is horrible, they don't even have signature shots...wtf? how can it be realistic if you don't have that....sure adding FIBA teams and the likes of Live 365 (which i have been told you need to pay for??), the 2k series have only played with things that need to be changed, i will continue to buy 2k games, until EA sports makes some serious improvements, but hey each to their own, thats why they have forums...

Thanks for the giant run-on sentence admitting that you are trolling. Never played the game, therefore you know it "sucks".

Why are you even in this forum? Go back to the 2K forums and enjoy the game you chose instead of bashing another game for no reason other than to make yourself seem "cool".

[PaulZweber]

open ur eyes people...call me what u want...fanboy or whatever..live sucks...it has for years...it was never going to do well on next gen consoles purely because they built a fan base because they had no direct competition..but now the likes of 2k series have a better foundation.. agreed that games never come out of the box to suit everyone..thats why u can tweak things with sliders and settings....down and dirty.. live has bad graphics and the motion capturing is horrible, they don't even have signature shots...wtf? how can it be realistic if you don't have that....sure adding FIBA teams and the likes of Live 365 (which i have been told you need to pay for??), the 2k series have only played with things that need to be changed, i will continue to buy 2k games, until EA sports makes some serious improvements, but hey each to their own, thats why they have forums...

All he needed was one quick sentence to say how he felt...

[bring back nfl2k]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

Thanks for the giant run-on sentence admitting that you are trolling. Never played the game, therefore you know it "sucks".

Why are you even in this forum? Go back to the 2K forums and enjoy the game you chose instead of bashing another game for no reason other than to make yourself seem "cool".

Man you guys take this seriously, but he did speak some truth about Live, Im not bashing at all but there is no signature shots accept for a couple I did notice Garnett's shot was on point, and they tried to get Ray Allen's but not so much. But overall its no comparison on which game is better, but everybody has there own opinon.

[23]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

Im calling you a troll. You don't even have the game and it sucks?

Got it

[Pared]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

sure ea made a few mistakes but overall the game is solid have already played nine games in dynasty (i am 7-2) love the defensive lockdown controls and the dynamic dna and cant wait to see how 365 works generally i am very pleased with the game and have no qualms about playing it for a long time to come so 2k can just bite the proverbial bullet

I'm just curious... what is so impressive about the defensive side of the ball?

It seems like it has no effect on the shooter and aside from the pushing in the post and the different degrees of "lockon" there isn't much else that is impressive.

Don't even get me started on the lack of challenging shots in the post.

[thereal31]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

open ur eyes people...call me what u want...fanboy or whatever..live sucks...it has for years...it was never going to do well on next gen consoles purely because they built a fan base because they had no direct competition..but now the likes of 2k series have a better foundation.. agreed that games never come out of the box to suit everyone..thats why u can tweak things with sliders and settings....down and dirty.. live has bad graphics and the motion capturing is horrible, they don't even have signature shots...wtf? how can it be realistic if you don't have that....sure adding FIBA teams and the likes of Live 365 (which i have been told you need to pay for??), the 2k series have only played with things that need to be changed, i will continue to buy 2k games, until EA sports makes some serious improvements, but hey each to their own, thats why they have forums...

Ok man you dont gotta like EA or the Live series but dont come on the board spreading a bunch of lies about the game it does have signature shoots, you dont have to pay for live 365 if you buy it new and even then the price will drop so they proable wont even make much of it, I mean live 09 isnt better then nba 2k9 but it is a solid game, I'm not trying to convert to live or tell u to like it. But sound like a straight up child coming on a thread just to spread lies abut a game so you can feel good. If you had the game then then you have all right to not like it and diss it but pretty much proved you dont, so you came here to do the whole 2k for life EA sucks which is common on any game that has a EA symbol on it. Seeing how there there the so called evil empire cause they out bided 2k for the NFl rights which was put out by the nfl.

[Bornindamecca]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

I'm just curious... what is so impressive about the defensive side of the ball?

It seems like it has no effect on the shooter and aside from the pushing in the post and the different degrees of "lockon" there isn't much else that is impressive.

Don't even get me started on the lack of challenging shots in the post.

In my experience, contesting the shooter works in every situation except for in the post. Almost every shot out of a post move seems to go in. Aside from that, I actually agree that there are a lot of positives. First off, the AI switching is faster and sharper, and that's a huge step forward in bball defense. Now you're not stuck with mismatches for a whole possession if you trap or double team to get your way out of those situations. The off the ball defense is great, the block/charge collisions are great, and a little overlooked right now. People are only pressing the take charge button to actually take charges, but it is also extremely useful just for putting penetrators on the line.

If people used the B button more, the defense would double in "sim" quality.

Also, the increased options out of the double team are a step forward for basketball defense. We have step throughs and more variables overall so double teams feel much less scripted. Lastly, the increased ball physics make the passing lane defense much, much more logical and does the same for the shot blocking and alley oop defense.

The shooting slider needs to go down in 2k9, but I think that skews the perception of much improved defensive mechanics.



Hehe, on topic, nice job on the review. I don't have the game, so I can only compare the accuracy of the review to the demo, but the content, perspective and insight were all head and shoulders above the generic site sports review.

[Pared]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

In my experience, contesting the shooter works in every situation except for in the post. Almost every shot out of a post move seems to go in. Aside from that, I actually agree that there are a lot of positives. First off, the AI switching is faster and sharper, and that's a huge step forward in bball defense. Now you're not stuck with mismatches for a whole possession if you trap or double team to get your way out of those situations. The off the ball defense is great, the block/charge collisions are great, and a little overlooked right now. People are only pressing the take charge button to actually take charges, but it is also extremely useful just for putting penetrators on the line.

If people used the B button more, the defense would double in "sim" quality.

Also, the increased options out of the double team are a step forward for basketball defense. We have step throughs and more variables overall so double teams feel much less scripted. Lastly, the increased ball physics make the passing lane defense much, much more logical and does the same for the shot blocking and alley oop defense.

The shooting slider needs to go down in 2k9, but I think that skews the perception of much improved defensive mechanics.



Hehe, on topic, nice job on the review. I don't have the game, so I can only compare the accuracy of the review to the demo, but the content, perspective and insight were all head and shoulders above the generic site sports review.

Are you talking about Live....?

[Bornindamecca]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

Are you talking about Live....?

HAHAHAHA!!! My bad, I thought you were talking about 2k. Nevermind I just woke up

[Pared]

Re: NBA Live 09 Review

You had me completely confused.