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  • sportyguyfl31
    MVP
    • Nov 2005
    • 4745

    #1

    The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

    The intensity of the game seems to gradually escelate, and then in the 4th quarter, the CPU comes at you with a vengance.

    I was playing my 3rd game in my Knicks Dynasty against the Bucks, and was more or less in control throughout.

    I was up 10 at one point, on superstar. They started making some runs, I held them off, called some TOs, got some baskets to keep it between 6-8.

    Then the 4th quarter rolled around, and the CPU put up 29 pts, and I ended up losing by 2. After holding Redd pretty silent, the y went to him over and over, running him off of screens for 20 foot jumpers and also isolating him.

    Frustrating in a way, but it also keeps you on your toes. Eddie Curry missed a bucket that would have put me ahead by 1 and probably win it, then I had to foul..and that was the game.

    I was ticked yet going.."dang, great game..wish I pulled it out" at the same time.

    It reminded me a bit of the All Madden comeback AI. Do you see this happening on the lower difficulty levels also?
  • 23
    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #2
    Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

    Guess that speaks for the clutchness of mr yoga ball doesn't it?

    Thing I like about this game, when you lose like that, you know its because of mistakes that you made, not cheese AI for once in a Live series.

    Every game is different, and some nights the computer can't get none. Others when you start playing ball and not taking your time, rushing and trying to play without using the team, you lose.

    Makes it different that's for sure.

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    • left4dead
      Banned
      • Oct 2005
      • 693

      #3
      Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

      LOL, I noticed this too. My 10-13 point leads (heading into the 4th quarter) vanish after the cpu decides to start making about 80% of their shots. Then they seem to settle down and I end up winning (in most cases) by a few points.

      To be fair....I've only noticed this when the cpu is the HOME team. I guess even in real NBA games, the home team usually rallies late in ball games.

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      • Chairman7w
        MVP
        • Mar 2006
        • 1490

        #4
        Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

        I tend to get caught up in the excitement of close games and it pulls me out of my game, the game that got me the big lead to start with.

        I like to play with Utah, and they are NOT a fast break team, and for three quarters, I played smart, walked it up, pounded it low to Boozer and ran my offense out of the post, built up a nice 10 pt lead.

        But in the 4th, the crowd's going wild, the other team is catching fire, I start running and gunning and the next thing I knew I'm down 1 !!! But I caught my breath, went back to what got me there and pulled out the win.

        I really like how you have to play to your teams' personality to play well.

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #5
          Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

          I like the rallies. Even in blowouts, you'll see runs where teams cut it to 10 or 8 and then they either keep it up or just fizzle. I think it's depicted well here. However, it's usually the result of the CPU all of a sudden taking shots with a "perfect release," not because they start taking better shots. BTW, not everyone who has an open shot hits it in the NBA!

          Do you think they get the point by now?
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          • sportyguyfl31
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 4745

            #6
            Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

            Yeah, Id like to add that it didnt feel like I was being cheated.

            What ended up happening is that I had chances to stop the bleeding and calm things down, but started doing stupid things like forcing pick and rolls and forcing the ball into Curry or Randolph, when they dont have post positio or when I cant get a clean post entry pass through.

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #7
              Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

              Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
              Yeah, Id like to add that it didnt feel like I was being cheated.

              What ended up happening is that I had chances to stop the bleeding and calm things down, but started doing stupid things like forcing pick and rolls and forcing the ball into Curry or Randolph, when they dont have post positio or when I cant get a clean post entry pass through.
              That's why the game has play variations remember?

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              • BIG CAROLINA
                MVP
                • Aug 2007
                • 1762

                #8
                Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                Originally posted by KDRE_OS
                That's why the game has play variations remember?
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                • sportyguyfl31
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 4745

                  #9
                  Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                  Originally posted by KDRE_OS
                  That's why the game has play variations remember?

                  True..i stumbled across one by accident. The play started with a a play to Crawford, but I noticed that Crawford's defender was sagging back as soon as Randolph flashed to the block.

                  I was tempted to rise up for the J, but I swung the ball back and managed to hit steph cutting to the hoop.

                  But alas, sometimes we all get greedy

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                  • bucksfan07
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 827

                    #10
                    Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                    I've had the opposite too, where I was down 6 as the Spurs against Denver entering the fourth and I outscored them 30 to. I really like how crucial and hectic the fourth quarter can be in this game

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #11
                      Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                      Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                      True..i stumbled across one by accident. The play started with a a play to Crawford, but I noticed that Crawford's defender was sagging back as soon as Randolph flashed to the block.

                      I was tempted to rise up for the J, but I swung the ball back and managed to hit steph cutting to the hoop.

                      But alas, sometimes we all get greedy
                      No, I mean you can run that same play on the other side of the floor as well

                      Make him run to the other side... it works too.

                      Check Da Czar's video on variations

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                      • sportyguyfl31
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 4745

                        #12
                        Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                        Originally posted by KDRE_OS
                        No, I mean you can run that same play on the other side of the floor as well

                        Make him run to the other side... it works too.

                        Check Da Czar's video on variations
                        Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh...I see. That makes a ton of sense. I didnt realise that you can play the "play" through and other variations will get run.

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                        • Playmaker24
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 121

                          #13
                          Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                          I honestly like sometimes that there is comeback AI in basketball games in comparison to football games.

                          The only time it is really crappy is when you build a big lead and then lose it, oh well that is the game.

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                          • ILLSmak
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2397

                            #14
                            Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                            The difficulty is good. I mean, the computer can beat you. Even if they do release every shot perfectly... I don't care. That's what I want. I want a high difficulty level. If I didn't, I wouldn't be playing on superstar. You guys know that if there was a "HAll of Fame." or "Legend" difficulty you would be playing it on that.

                            It's not cheesy, but they do make a lot of shots. I find that mostly it's because I gamble on defense, though.

                            LeBron has a kind of go to move... which is a fade away 3 pointer, ever seen this? Man, he is unstoppable with it. He pulled 3 of them on me in one game. Sure it's only 9 points but man especially at key times it is totally demoralizing.

                            Like I said, the computer could be WAY harder.

                            -Smak

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                            • edubbs
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 2099

                              #15
                              Re: The CPU Comeback AI Is Merciless!

                              does the cpu ever call timeouts in this game? i just played 3 straight qtrs. and i'm the only one that used ANY of my timeouts.

                              Also, is there a way for the user to control subs manually? i hate the rotations and sub patterns the cpu uses.

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