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  • edubbs
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 2099

    #1

    Bigs who play on the perimeter....

    Has anyone seen certain bigs shoot 3's like they do IRL?

    I rarely see it in Live to this point.

    I'm talking about guys like Sheed, Okur, Troy Murphy, Brian Cook etc...

    These guys get up a couple of 3's per game IRL but, I rarely see them behind the 3 point line in Live.

    Live does have them playing ALOT from the high post but, rarely do I see them set up behind the 3 point line in half court sets when controlled by the CPU.

    It's an important element of these guys game that is missing in Live.

    Hopefully, the EA guys can get this incorporated for 2010.
  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #2
    Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

    When I faced Troy Murphy he definitely spotted up a few times against me.
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    • SpSoloSr
      Rookie
      • Oct 2006
      • 157

      #3
      Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

      From what I've seen, most the teams don't set them up for a chance to do so because of the playbooks. Most of the plays have the bigs sprint to the box, post, and throw up a quick turn around fade.

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      • Court_vision
        Banned
        • Oct 2002
        • 8290

        #4
        Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

        Again, it comes down to ratings.

        Dirk's "likelihood to take a 3 point shot" rating = 17/100.

        That's why he rarely takes them.

        Just raise him and he'll take them.

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        • edubbs
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 2099

          #5
          Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

          Originally posted by SpSoloSr
          From what I've seen, most the teams don't set them up for a chance to do so because of the playbooks. Most of the plays have the bigs sprint to the box, post, and throw up a quick turn around fade.
          I think you are correct.

          The main issue is the playbooks, from what I've noticed. Like you said, EVERY big just runs down to the box to intiate plays it 'seems'.

          The furtheset I'vs seen them go is out to the elbows for plays.

          They need to add playsets that extend certain bigs out to the 3 point line.

          Otherwise CV's suggestion of raising a player's 3 pt likely hood would not matter because, bigs do not even set up beyond the 3 point line to even attempt the 3 ball in the sets they have in the game.

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          • sportyguyfl31
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 4745

            #6
            Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

            I saw KG take s few 18-20 footers in my dynasty game the other night.

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            • poster
              All Star
              • Nov 2003
              • 7506

              #7
              Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

              I just got the game so sorry if this is obvious. I also haven't seen too many 3's by bigs. Playing as the Pistons Sheed usually just camps out inside. I then noticed that in the thin manual, it says all teams have the basic plays set up. So every team has a get open play screen play, a post play, a iso play, etc. It just changes based on personnel on the floor at that time.

              Hopefully changing the plays will do the trick. I think Playmakers used to do do a playbook selection for each team like Kruza does for NBA 2K. Anyone know if he has done that, or has anyone assigned plays for certain teams?

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              • 23bluesman
                Pro
                • Jun 2008
                • 828

                #8
                Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                Originally posted by SpSoloSr
                From what I've seen, most the teams don't set them up for a chance to do so because of the playbooks. Most of the plays have the bigs sprint to the box, post, and throw up a quick turn around fade.
                Yup, they don't camp around the 3 pt line much due to the plays/playbooks. But in the very rare times that they do end up in those spots, I've seen them take the shots (depending on their DNA). Mostly happens on broken plays or my guys not getting back on defense though.

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                • poster
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 7506

                  #9
                  Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                  Originally posted by 23bluesman
                  Yup, they don't camp around the 3 pt line much due to the plays/playbooks. But in the very rare times that they do end up in those spots, I've seen them take the shots (depending on their DNA). Mostly happens on broken plays or my guys not getting back on defense though.
                  So there are no plays in the playbooks that get PF's or C's a 3 pt shot? Thanks.

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                  • Chairman7w
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1490

                    #10
                    Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                    Originally posted by poster
                    So there are no plays in the playbooks that get PF's or C's a 3 pt shot? Thanks.
                    Why don't you just fireup the game, and go to the offensive playbook and look yourself?

                    I don't know what the answer is, but that's how I would get it.

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                    • Pared
                      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 39337

                      #11
                      Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                      Shooting bigs rarely find themselves around the 3 pt. line. Seems to be a problem with both games this year.
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                      • poster
                        All Star
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 7506

                        #12
                        Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                        Originally posted by Chairman7w
                        Why don't you just fireup the game, and go to the offensive playbook and look yourself?

                        I don't know what the answer is, but that's how I would get it.
                        Come on now, I am obviously not at home to check...

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                        • 23bluesman
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 828

                          #13
                          Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                          Originally posted by poster
                          So there are no plays in the playbooks that get PF's or C's a 3 pt shot? Thanks.
                          I'm not really sure if there are none at all, just that the default plays for those teams don't seem to set them up for it. To be honest I haven't really checked the other plays yet, aside from the defaults.

                          And sorry, I can't check them out for you since I'm not at home too, and probably won't be back until the weekend.

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                          • poster
                            All Star
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 7506

                            #14
                            Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                            Originally posted by 23bluesman
                            I'm not really sure if there are none at all, just that the default plays for those teams don't seem to set them up for it. To be honest I haven't really checked the other plays yet, aside from the defaults.

                            And sorry, I can't check them out for you since I'm not at home too, and probably won't be back until the weekend.
                            Thanks 23. I looked at it a bit last night and didn't see much either. I will have to dig deeper when I have more time.

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                            • sportyguyfl31
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4745

                              #15
                              Re: Bigs who play on the perimeter....

                              There are plays where you can have a PF or shooting C pop out for a J. What you can do is change the primary option on the play.

                              If the play is initially designed to have, say Q-richardson take a shot, and I want Al Harrington to take it instead, I can just change who the play is run for in the playbook.

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