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  • jrose57
    MVP
    • Dec 2007
    • 3513

    #1

    Which level do you guys play at?

    I played superstar for home team and allstar for away team and it seems like the AI is trying to make every game close by being very unrealstic, no matter how good my defense was, no matter which team I am using for instance me = boston at home, computer = bobcats at away, the game is still close no matter whats going on, do you guys feel the same? i can never have more than a 4 pt lead while if i don't play really really well, the computer can blow me out by more than 10, whats going on?
  • pbz06
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 1504

    #2
    Re: Which level do you guys play at?

    Honestly, I noticed that too the more I play.

    I play on Superstar with L4D's sliders (which have been awesome overall, I get nice stats).

    But the biggest problem with the game is that there's no variance between the good and bad teams. Like you said, it doesn't matter if I'm Boston, LA, Cleveland, Orlando (or any good team) at home going against either Bobcats, OKC, GSW, LAC, Minnesota (or any bad team). All the games are close and there's nothing in the coding that makes them play like a bad team. I can never win by more than double digits, and I can never stop them from scoring just because they're programmed to score/perform a certain way. I don't think it's a slider issue.

    I get sweet stats and I'm happy overall, but I feel when playing the really bad teams, there should be more parity between the top teams and bad teams. Out of the 30 games I played total, seems like every team plays on the same difficulty.

    Somebody might say is it's because I'm not good at D or whatever, but it's not the case because then I should be getting blown away by the good teams. The game doesn't seem to recognize the differences between an Adam Morrison or a Kevin Garnett, or the Lakers and OKC. Seems like every game/opponent is on the exact same level as me regardless of the players or team.
    Last edited by pbz06; 01-03-2009, 02:30 PM.

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    • jrose57
      MVP
      • Dec 2007
      • 3513

      #3
      Re: Which level do you guys play at?

      Exactly man, it doesn't matter what team you use and play against, you get the similar game everytime becuase the game is programmed to have a close game every time, one thing i do notice is that superstar will favor the AI a lot more, and allstar is less, and so on, for starter, the AI is programmed to play a lot worse which actually gives us a chance to get a win. I tried allstar and I do feel like I can acutally beat the AI but once in a while you will notice that the AI is coming at you that you can't stop, they would all of a sudden go on a run and you will miss EVERYTHING! I am going to try playing at a lower level and see what happens or lower the AI's scoring ability and adjust the AI's sliders to see if it will help.

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      • ILLSmak
        MVP
        • Sep 2008
        • 2397

        #4
        Re: Which level do you guys play at?

        I never lose. Period.

        Just kidding...

        sort of. lol.

        But seriously, you guys ever played Command and Conquer? Ever scout out the base of a computer on the highest difficulty? They have made soooo many units and buildings... to the point where it is exploiting. As in, there is NO way that they can make that much in that little time.

        But you know what? If you are good, you need that setting because the AI becomes predictable and you need it to 'cheat' a bit to give you a good game. Of course, then you get on the level where it doesn't even matter because you know the AI inside and out... but at that point it's time to... leave your house for awhile!

        -Smak

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        • GSW
          Simnation
          • Feb 2003
          • 8041

          #5
          Re: Which level do you guys play at?

          I play on all star... i blow out wack teams if i have good team and games are close when its a better team... and sometimes i get blown out too.

          Superstar cheats thats why i dont play it.

          All star default sliders. with fouls turned up a bit.
          #Simnation

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          • Avordo99
            Rookie
            • May 2007
            • 75

            #6
            GSW
            What adjustments did you make (foul sliders)? Thanks

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            • left4dead
              Banned
              • Oct 2005
              • 693

              #7
              Re: Which level do you guys play at?

              Superstar, using my sliders. Once in a blue moon, I play on All-Star but I find this skill level setting a bit too easy for my taste.

              As pbz06 already mentioned, almost all of the teams almost play identical ball/style and there's really nothing that can be done about this because it's a CODE issue in Live 09.

              Hopefully this will be addressed next year.

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              • GSW
                Simnation
                • Feb 2003
                • 8041

                #8
                Re: Which level do you guys play at?

                Originally posted by Avordo99
                GSW
                What adjustments did you make (foul sliders)? Thanks
                i just moved up shooting fouls like 4 or 5 clicks and collision fouls 2 or 3..
                #Simnation

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                • Avordo99
                  Rookie
                  • May 2007
                  • 75

                  #9
                  Great! Will give these settings a try. Thanks.

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                  • Jebus
                    Rookie
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 120

                    #10
                    Re: Which level do you guys play at?

                    Allstar... But right now I'm just simming my games in franchise and only coming in when I need to.

                    Only going to play playoffs
                    AFL - Sydney Swans
                    NBA - Cleveland Cavaliers
                    NFL - Atlanta Falcons
                    NHL - New Jersey Devils

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                    • vc15
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 913

                      #11
                      Re: Which level do you guys play at?

                      Superstar. It's too easy for me now. I won the NBA Championship with the default Raptors team and default sliders (Bosh/O'Neal/Kapono/Parker/Calderon) and I'm blowing out every team by ~15 points/game.
                      MLB 15 DD:
                      Carew/CAP/Williams/Trout/Votto/Cabrera/Tulowitzki/Kaline

                      Ryan/Scherzer/Fernandez/Cueto/Darvish

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                      • rudyjuly2
                        Cade Cunningham
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 14815

                        #12
                        Re: Which level do you guys play at?

                        I will come out of the closet (http://www.osatwork.com/rudyjuly2/bl...-casual-gamer/) and say I play on Starter. I'm just a casual gamer who picked up this game this year and am having a lot of fun.

                        When I tried playing on All-Star I was getting beat all the time and not having as much fun. I still lose on Starter so it's not as if I'm looking to go undefeated or anything. I'm just not good enough to play at the higher levels right now and don't mind the game to be a little more offensive. I am playing with some sliders to change a few things although it would be awful nice if I knew what they did!

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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #13
                          Re: Which level do you guys play at?

                          I could not play on anything less than Superstar pre-patch. The game was too easy IMO.

                          I think they did a good job of adjusting shooting %'s and the "perfect release" window, at least to the point where I'm having highly competitive games on All-Star now.
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                          • dorismary
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3794

                            #14
                            Re: Which level do you guys play at?

                            I play on Allstar to keep players more realistic .
                            I beat bad teams and have to work hard against great teams .
                            Im using L4D sliders with a few tweaks like lower shot % for cpu and Hu.

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