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  • SageInfinite
    Stop The GOAT Talk
    • Jul 2002
    • 11896

    #61
    Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

    Originally posted by Da_Czar
    Ahhh got you man.... Now that sounds resonable.

    One of the things that has me excited is that they said in that interview they had beluba on an "incubation"(sp) team. Hopefully that also involved getting him familiar with all the in engines they have in house (fifa ,madden, etc) and how he can leverage that technology. In addition by the time they had their meetings on live 10 I bet B already had a clear vision for what could be accomplished this year with gameplay.

    That plus the fact that they are sharing the engine with the ncaa basketball crew means we can expect a much more mature engine in 2010 because it has been worked on practically year around. Add all that on top of dna and the outstanding playbooks and it should be impossible for them to not make this the best live in the series... not to mention the procedural awareness and the crap load of animations
    stephensonmc hinted why would worry about lack of animations with B on board and I have got my popcorn and 6 pack and a leave slip all ready 4 2010...LOL
    Posts like this from guys like this are the reason I can't wait to see what Live has to offer.
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    • yankeesgiants
      I Drink Like A Champion!!
      • Feb 2007
      • 2477

      #62
      Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

      Originally posted by SageInfinite
      Posts like this from guys like this are the reason I can't wait to see what Live has to offer.
      I totally agree with you. I only brought Live this year on the 360 because somebody misspelled it on ebay and I brought it new for 27 bucks in November. Glad I did because it is a good game. It's not perfect but what game is. The NBA Live Team laid a good foundation this year and I only see it getting better next year.
      I dont remember there names but they were allot of fun....

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #63
        Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

        Originally posted by Da_Czar
        shadows the rebounding is broken there is no covering that up bro also the locomotion is bad man real bad. this game has a lot going for it but to overlook what is bad in the name of uplifting the series helps no one. The animations and bad locomotion bad passing. Horrible rim physics, suction defense and scrawny player models in addition to the severly limited animations all together after playing for a few months can make this game unplayable. not that it is a bad game. if you want to like it there is certainly enough there to do that but there just isn't enough there currently to make the game as good as you seem to claim.

        Remember I actually like live 09 for the potential it shows but that doesn't mean its great in its current state. I do think live 10 will be exceptional but a year away from genius.
        Good Post.
        Me personally, I cant play this game, I just cant take it....but you have got to love the potential.

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        • Court_vision
          Banned
          • Oct 2002
          • 8290

          #64
          Great article.

          This game is a huge leap forward...but it's still not close to 'season worthy'.

          It's on track though...

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          • sportyguyfl31
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 4745

            #65
            Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

            For me, the key is where does EA take this series from where it is at, to go foreward?

            I really believe that the two series, Live and NBA 2k are at major turning points.

            At the begining of next gen, EA decided to basically go the slash and burn approach to rebuilding this game, and paid a savage price for it. They lost many of the people who have been playing EA Basketball since Lakers Vs. Celtics.

            I turned to 2k in 05.

            The 2k engine is aging. It cant keep up with the flash and dash...that they are adding to the game. Yes, it looks beautiful, and there are animations a-plenty..but the game engine cannot handle them.

            Ea seems to be building...and they actually seem more concerned with getting the meat and potatoes of the game correct...while 2k seems to be getting away from the very things that attracted me to it in the 1st place.


            It's like the 2 brands are swapping identities.

            I always knew that the Basketball in Live was more free wheeling, and I was willing to accept that, because EA never gave me a reason to believe that they were trying to be Sim.

            If (And this always a very big if when we are talking about EA) Live continues to focus on representing the NBA game well, as opposed to the "Boo-Yah!" moments..this game is going to be great...really soon.

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            • Iadf
              Rookie
              • May 2006
              • 296

              #66
              nba 2k9 is my favourite basketball game period. im surprised at all the dislike on it. it just looks and feels so real(so many animations). i wont play live until it gets a unanimous vote as the better game. until then ill take my chances with 2k for the future since i haven't been disappointed in the last two games from them. good write up

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              • chrome381
                Rookie
                • Nov 2008
                • 123

                #67
                Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                Originally posted by Iadf
                nba 2k9 is my favourite basketball game period. im surprised at all the dislike on it. it just looks and feels so real(so many animations). i wont play live until it gets a unanimous vote as the better game. until then ill take my chances with 2k for the future since i haven't been disappointed in the last two games from them. good write up
                Brace yourself, a storm is coming

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                • eDotd
                  We ain't cool de la?
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 6284

                  #68
                  Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                  Originally posted by Iadf
                  nba 2k9 is my favourite basketball game period. im surprised at all the dislike on it. it just looks and feels so real(so many animations). i wont play live until it gets a unanimous vote as the better game. until then ill take my chances with 2k for the future since i haven't been disappointed in the last two games from them. good write up
                  Do people not have a mind of their own?

                  Originally posted by Con-Con
                  Honestly, some of the posters on here are acting like Rob Jones boned your girl while you were at work, on you own sheets BTW.
                  Originally posted by trobinson97
                  Mo is the Operator from the Matrix.

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #69
                    Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                    The evolving Live DNA is great for individual players. I really like how it works for rookies.

                    A great feature that is certainly moving the genre forward. Can't wait for next year's games.
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                    • DaWolf
                      Old school
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 628

                      #70
                      Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                      Its all about the animations this year. I have the feeling that from year to year NBA 2K is taking away more and more control over the game from me. Its all so automatic, no user control on many things. But man, the anuimations are just so great that you go back to it again and again.

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                      • antony24
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1

                        #71
                        Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                        NBA Live 365 sucks. They made Dwight Howard unstoppable, making everything as long as you are inside the 3pt line, and rashard lewis makes it anywhere on the court. they need to fix this big time. in the nba you can't just get the inbound pass and chuck it down court to the center every time and get an easy lay in or dunk because the other players will come over and stop it, in this game however you can just throw it to anyone and run around people to the hoop. it's terrible.

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                        • sandman0823
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 91

                          #72
                          Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                          Listen, some people may call me crazy for saying this but i feel that live is slightly better than 2k this year. i have been playing 2k9 since its release in october to only just master the game after i've been playing day in and day out for the past 8 months now. i had to adjust the sliders to do so. i love the game to only find that i was caught up in the hype and allure of what everyone felt was the better bball game this year. i just recently picked up live because i was not complete with 2k i was missing something. live is very rough around the edges i have even seen an actual double dribble in the game but for some reason i enjoy it more than 2k. i feel live is a better sim than 2k. 2k feels very arcade like this year and i think alot of folks love this game becasue it is to cheese in 2k which is why the traffic is so high in the 2k insider forum. cats wants boosts for players they use when playing online that is unrealistic to me. live got it right, everything was based on stats and true tendacies not some geek sitting at home acting as the basketball god determining who deserves boosts or not. ea is definitely moving in the right direction and with the hire of the cat from 2k i think they will take over next years bball war.

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                          • jaosming
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1138

                            #73
                            Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                            Originally posted by antony24
                            NBA Live 365 sucks. They made Dwight Howard unstoppable, making everything as long as you are inside the 3pt line, and rashard lewis makes it anywhere on the court. they need to fix this big time. in the nba you can't just get the inbound pass and chuck it down court to the center every time and get an easy lay in or dunk because the other players will come over and stop it, in this game however you can just throw it to anyone and run around people to the hoop. it's terrible.

                            it's an exploit that happens in 2k as well


                            Fix: Don't do it.


                            Online Fix:
                            NBA 2K11 Community Site Mix
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmTCXbfBbQ

                            NBA 2K10 Community Site Mix
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cndytDNb-c

                            The people say they're pretty good.

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                            • Sluggo
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 84

                              #74
                              Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                              Originally posted by jaosming
                              it's an exploit that happens in 2k as well


                              Fix: Don't do it.


                              Online Fix:
                              it happens online in every game i've played
                              It's dumb. You can't even really do full court press because the game pushes you out of the passing lane after a basket. The on the ball D suffers cause the man you're guarding can suck another player into their animation leaving somebody else wide open. Don't get me started on the fundamentals of the game i.e. shooting and rebounding. I thought I would Live a shot after 2K8 was just awful. Both 2K9 and Live were below expectations.

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                              • bigdfan76
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 655

                                #75
                                Re: Why I'm Done With NBA Basketball This Year: NBA Live 09

                                Originally posted by sandman0823
                                Listen, some people may call me crazy for saying this but i feel that live is slightly better than 2k this year. i have been playing 2k9 since its release in october to only just master the game after i've been playing day in and day out for the past 8 months now. i had to adjust the sliders to do so. i love the game to only find that i was caught up in the hype and allure of what everyone felt was the better bball game this year. i just recently picked up live because i was not complete with 2k i was missing something. live is very rough around the edges i have even seen an actual double dribble in the game but for some reason i enjoy it more than 2k. i feel live is a better sim than 2k. 2k feels very arcade like this year and i think alot of folks love this game becasue it is to cheese in 2k which is why the traffic is so high in the 2k insider forum. cats wants boosts for players they use when playing online that is unrealistic to me. live got it right, everything was based on stats and true tendacies not some geek sitting at home acting as the basketball god determining who deserves boosts or not. ea is definitely moving in the right direction and with the hire of the cat from 2k i think they will take over next years bball war.
                                Ok so I have been a NBA Live fan my whole life! Seriously since bulls vs blazers days(which is the beginning I believe, bulls vs lakers? anyway) I ran into the IR lock problem with my particular file for Live 09 and I said screw it. I was frustrated that someone like Kobe got hurt and would miss the entire year(healthy!). I bought 2k for the first time. I REALLY like it. I hated getting used to the isomotion bs but the dynasty/association mode is MUCH MUCH MUCH better. Not to mention the fact that if the cpu's players got hurt they would not stay on the IR indefinatly. It made me disscover what 2k fans have been into for years. So now please inform me. They have fixed this stupid IR glitch that was in place for the on line cheesers? And they have a new guy on board from 2k? I REALLY hope this guy fixes the dynasty because it blows compared to 2k, quite frankly. I would rather play the EA version of any sports game but as far as basketball goes this year, 2k was the lesser of 2 evils and I am thouroughly enjoying it. But now I'm hitting a wall after starting over several times with my Spurs association. Now quite honestly I'm really looking forward to Madden 10, and hopefully EA and NBA live can make my loyalty worth it.
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