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  • a walrus
    Rookie
    • Nov 2008
    • 69

    #271
    This is a test of the emergency broadcast system..if anyone feels relief that this game is going to be great. Possibly even meet & exceed your expectations.I ask that you remain seated & remember that this is a wonderful & amazingly strategic marketing campaign.....ort..
    ort...ort! Some of you have been elevated & brought down in the recent past -I take it.

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    • HeavenlyTouch
      Rookie
      • Sep 2007
      • 409

      #272
      Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

      Anyway, next video please put it on a higher difficulty!

      My apologies for the premature complaining, I assume the AI is much better than this.

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      • stephensonmc
        WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
        • Mar 2003
        • 2105

        #273
        Re: NBA LIVE 10 Dribble Moves Video

        Originally posted by Pared
        Hmm. I want to see what this game will be like. Guess I need to continue to wait and see. Guys don't even really acknowledge the ball handler unless you come near them but if you say it's pro, guess back to waiting it is.

        I did get a kick of guys defending it though!

        Why would you guys release media that shows something so glaring like that? I'm obviously in the minority since we got the "oh mies itZ ovuhh!!!" posts but something like this hasn't been really seen since Lebron at Detroit. Man, that game was ugly.
        Totally serious question; have you ever captured before?

        I hadn't before this past week (helping capture these videos), and when you're trying to show something specific, it's hard to just play the game and hope it happens. Especially when you're up against time. We had to do whatever it took to showcase the specific things the video calls for.

        We had it at All-Star and you see when the players finish at the basket in the video? We had a hell of a time trying that on the higher difficulties b/c guys would step in and collide with the driving player.

        I'm sure guys on OS who capture specific videos can atest to how difficult it is. Ask Da Czar.
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        • stephensonmc
          WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
          • Mar 2003
          • 2105

          #274
          Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

          Originally posted by HeavenlyTouch
          Anyway, next video please put it on a higher difficulty!

          My apologies for the premature complaining, I assume the AI is much better than this.
          Guys,

          That's probably not going to happen. These are specific videos. We're showcasing improvements in specific areas that we weren't good in last year. They are meant to be judged on those specific things. If you guys are looking for other things, you're not going to see it.

          Sorry, but full gameplay videos will be coming at a later date.
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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #275
            Re: NBA LIVE 10 Dribble Moves Video

            I've seen the process of capturing before, yes. Actually been involved with it...

            The videos you mentioned are EXACTLY what I would want to see though. Again, I know I'm in the minority. Wasn't always this way at OS, but times they are a changin'!
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            • stephensonmc
              WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
              • Mar 2003
              • 2105

              #276
              Re: NBA LIVE 10 Dribble Moves Video

              Originally posted by Pared
              I've seen the process of capturing before, yes. Actually been involved with it...

              The videos you mentioned are EXACTLY what I would want to see though. Again, I know I'm in the minority. Wasn't always this way at OS, but times they are a changin'!
              totally get you, and we will. But there's a planned schedule of releases and that's what we're putting out my man.
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              • HeavenlyTouch
                Rookie
                • Sep 2007
                • 409

                #277
                Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                Pared: the question is, who are they advertising too? guys who are looking for sim realism? or guys who casually play basketball games because they enjoy seeing sick moves?

                Have casual players of NBA games become knowledgable enough to understand if this game is realistic in comparison to an NBA game? Who knows.

                I'm on the side that's looking for the best AI possible, are guys making cuts? are players playing defense properly? are bigs on offense positioned in the right place when a star attacks the basket? This is why watching the game on a higher difficulty would likely sell the game to me, not this video.
                Last edited by HeavenlyTouch; 08-13-2009, 10:18 PM.

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                • Pared
                  Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 39337

                  #278
                  Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                  That's not fair. You can't just market to the hardcore. I understand that.

                  My problem is that even WITH a lower difficulty, I wouldn't expect the defenders to stick to their man the way they did. There's just too much standing around. The defenders go into this animation as if they are playing off the ball defense but to me, the awareness just isn't there.
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                  • Dantecamp21
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 226

                    #279
                    I think you guys are going way overboard...in the end of the day it's a basketball VIDEOGAME for god's sake. We are only focusing on the negatives.

                    Of course no game will be perfect and Live 10 won't be the exception. Just chill. It's gotta be frustating for the dev team to show us definetely nice videos only for us to nitpick every single frame of the video.

                    I know we are hardcore, but I believe this is getting out of hand...

                    Peace.

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                    • iminurbase
                      NBA LIVE Producer
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 668

                      #280
                      Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                      This thread is whack. I'll be back in when Santos' blog drops.

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                      • KChow21
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 251

                        #281
                        Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                        Originally posted by iminurbase
                        This thread is whack. I'll be back in when Santos' blog drops.
                        It's a failure on 3 levels: programming/QA/Production. That's all I can say.-iminurbase

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                        • HeavenlyTouch
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 409

                          #282
                          Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          That's not fair. You can't just market to the hardcore. I understand that.

                          My problem is that even WITH a lower difficulty, I wouldn't expect the defenders to stick to their man the way they did. There's just too much standing around. The defenders go into this animation as if they are playing off the ball defense but to me, the awareness just isn't there.
                          It's meant to be easy, it's newb mode.

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                          • blues rocker
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1921

                            #283
                            Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                            the dribbling looks great...unfortunately the defense in the paint looks AWFUL. It looks way too easy to get to the rim untouched. The ball handler just gets by the defenders in the paint too easily. the defenders either don't contest the ball handler, or their contest attempts are wrong/ineffective. When a guy gets past his man at the top of the key, I want to see the paint defenders swarm him and not just let him slide inside for a layup or dunk.

                            edit: sorry - after reading the whole thread I see the difficulty setting is responsible for the lack of paint defense. I really hope the harder difficulty has more collisions in the paint and less open layups/dunks.
                            Last edited by blues rocker; 08-13-2009, 10:52 PM.

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                            • DR Russell
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 364

                              #284
                              Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                              Nice vids thank you Marcus...

                              DR Russell

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                              • Jano
                                You Dead Wrong
                                • May 2004
                                • 3161

                                #285
                                Re: NBA Live 10 Dribble Moves Video

                                Originally posted by Pared
                                That's not fair. You can't just market to the hardcore. I understand that.

                                My problem is that even WITH a lower difficulty, I wouldn't expect the defenders to stick to their man the way they did. There's just too much standing around. The defenders go into this animation as if they are playing off the ball defense but to me, the awareness just isn't there.
                                Honestly this is why I like Live's difficulty system the AI gets progressively smarter and more aware as you raise the difficulty level.

                                I feel like its a fighting game where on easy the CPU goes pretty easy on you using basic combos and such.

                                But once you up the difficulty they start to use more advanced combos and tactics

                                I like this rather than having the AI displaying solid fundamentals through out all levels because then it just lead to the CPU having to "cheat" in order to make the game more difficult. Because the AI already does everything they would at rookie on superstar.

                                So instead of the CPU using smart tactics they just start to use catch up speed or things like that to make up for it.

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