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[23]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

They're going to look alike because they're both basketball games trying to be realistic.

Thats all I care about right there.

[23]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

playing the game on All-Star right now and the help d is there.

I believe you man... I know last years game had it so I dont doubt this years game has it....

looks like 2k put folks in panic mode

[Jamin23]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

PM me the recorded footage to prove it

//pinky to corner of mouth

That's not fair if only you get to see the footage.

[pbz06]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

I believe you man... I know last years game had it so I dont doubt this years game has it....

looks like 2k put folks in panic mode

That's the reason I'm not worried about it. In Live 09 the Help D was GREAT (as evident by czar's video). If there's one thing Live had over 2k last year, defensive rotations and help D were definately one of them.

[bls]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

I pointed this out and was immediately given some backwards reasoning, almost justification, as to why Garnett would do this.

But a dev came in and said it was done by design for the Pro difficulty, which the videos were being recorded on. I didn't recall this being a problem last year but it was glaringly obvious to me in these videos.

I raised my concerns so hopefully this isn't an issue on All-Star difficulty.

Last year's game had the best help D I've seen in a bball game. Just check out Czar's live vs 2k video, i think it's the 4th one.

[Pared]

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I know that bls. All the more reason I brought it up.

Thanks MS.

[Rocboyz101]

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Is it just me or does the overall animation/movement of players remind you of 2k? It was eerie, to me, when I was watching the dribble move video. It reminded me so much of 2k especially as the players took the ball to the basket (it seemed as if the collision detection was all messed up like it is in 2k.)

Does anyone else see what I mean?

Now, I like 2k's animations as much as the next man, but what I've noticed in 2k is animation = less control. I really hope that's not the case ESPECIALLY on defense in the paint. LeBron's dunk in the 'dribble move' video looks totally wack.

-Smak

You didn't here the devs say that all the vids were on rookie to showcase a certain area of gameplay?

[pistons_own]

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Two words Mike Wang.

that's a name

[cool2fool]

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that's a name

lol

[mz3v3ry504]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

Is it just me or does the overall animation/movement of players remind you of 2k? It was eerie, to me, when I was watching the dribble move video. It reminded me so much of 2k especially as the players took the ball to the basket (it seemed as if the collision detection was all messed up like it is in 2k.)

Does anyone else see what I mean?

Now, I like 2k's animations as much as the next man, but what I've noticed in 2k is animation = less control. I really hope that's not the case ESPECIALLY on defense in the paint. LeBron's dunk in the 'dribble move' video looks totally wack.

-Smak

have to disagree 2k's moves weren't that fluid like the Live videos

[ILLSmak]

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Any 10 second size up move is automatically and1 to me.


The 2k feeling was, to me, the lack of interaction between the defender and the ball handler. Further, the lack of interaction between the help defender and the ball handler.

Let's say I don't see how any of those (besides the overall glitz of the size up move) were able to get past someone, let alone finish a play in the paint.

The best part is how bored the defender looks. haha. And how the animation always seems to lead to the ball handler being too close to the defender (without him backing off, fouling, or getting a hand on the ball.)

I have the same queasy feeling that I had when I saw the videos for Live 07 or when I played the demo for 2k9. Sucks...

Oh well, I haven't been wrong in awhile... I hope I am this time.

-Smak

[bls]

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Any 10 second size up move is automatically and1 to me.


The 2k feeling was, to me, the lack of interaction between the defender and the ball handler. Further, the lack of interaction between the help defender and the ball handler.

Let's say I don't see how any of those (besides the overall glitz of the size up move) were able to get past someone, let alone finish a play in the paint.

The best part is how bored the defender looks. haha. And how the animation always seems to lead to the ball handler being too close to the defender (without him backing off, fouling, or getting a hand on the ball.)

I have the same queasy feeling that I had when I saw the videos for Live 07 or when I played the demo for 2k9. Sucks...

Oh well, I haven't been wrong in awhile... I hope I am this time.

-Smak

Sorry to hear that bruh, 09 was good to me and it's looking like Live 10 will be even better so no complaints from me.

[ILLSmak]

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Hey, I liked 09 a lot. I've played close to 1000 games online. I know EVERYTHING about that game.

I wonder, though, what makes you think it will be better?

All of that rim physics, intros... graphics... it doesn't matter to me. I want a game that will emulate real basketball and require basketball knowledge to succeed NOT against artificial intelligence but other humans online.

I'll save any further comments until I play the demo.

-Smak

[Dean3790]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

They purposely put in on Pro mode and tried to showcase the Dribble moves. Of course it is going to look a little excessive. When you're playing on a harder difficulty I doubt that the defender will sit there and watch you dribble that much...plus, the devs have said on multiple occasions that the longer your do the size-up move, the better chance the defender has of stealing the ball.

[Beluba]

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I want a game that will emulate real basketball and require basketball knowledge to succeed NOT against artificial intelligence but other humans online.

This is exactly why I think you'll like Live this year, Smak. Try the demo against buddies when you get it and you'll have a decent idea of how the game plays online. Cheezers are going down this year.