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  • donkey33
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 1268

    #766
    Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

    I'm thoroughly enjoying the demo. Yeah it might have the odd quirky animation or rocket dunk but it plays NBA Basketball and that is pure goodness for me.

    I'm also digging superstar over all star. Such a great challenge and makes you really work on offense and defense.

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    • RayDog253
      Pro
      • Jul 2009
      • 984

      #767
      Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

      Originally posted by RayAP19
      I don't think that's the case...
      That's actually working for me as well.... If you wait too long then your chances drop dramatically. From my experience of course.

      Got some nice blocks in the paint at the top of the shots arc.
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      • nogster
        MVP
        • Mar 2006
        • 3831

        #768
        Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

        i really like how the teams and players generally play the right way.
        i like the pace. i like the sim nature of the game.
        the graphics are great.
        the presentation is great.

        the animations have improved but there is something about the rim and shot physics that seem off to me.
        the rebounding? wtf,...why is it so unresponsive?
        at first i thought i was pressing the wrong button because dwight was not attempting to rebound.
        but i wasnt. its just real unresponsive.
        you press the rebound button and a half second later the rebound attempt is made...
        this is pretty poor.

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        • elprez98
          MVP
          • Dec 2003
          • 4237

          #769
          Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

          Originally posted by nogster
          i really like how the teams and players generally play the right way.
          i like the pace. i like the sim nature of the game.
          the graphics are great.
          the presentation is great.

          the animations have improved but there is something about the rim and shot physics that seem off to me.
          the rebounding? wtf,...why is it so unresponsive?
          at first i thought i was pressing the wrong button because dwight was not attempting to rebound.
          but i wasnt. its just real unresponsive.
          you press the rebound button and a half second later the rebound attempt is made...
          this is pretty poor.
          You played the same game that I did. Live is really good this year. I'll probably buy 2k and think about getting Live after a 10-15 price drop. Its almost there. Mind you, I haven't been able to get through a full quarter of Live in 5 or 6 years.

          The graphics are awesome and I love the amount of control you have although its a tough transition from 2k's shot stick afte all these years. I agree with Nogster though, something about the ball physics and the rim are just a bit off. It seems like you're playing on a jr high rim or something.
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          • elprez98
            MVP
            • Dec 2003
            • 4237

            #770
            Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

            Is it me and my samsung, or all the players just a bit shiny? Looks like their moms greased 'em all down with vasoline.
            Originally posted by My Wife
            "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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            • Tha_Kid
              All Star
              • Oct 2002
              • 6550

              #771
              Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

              I put a video in the Demo video thread. Funny enough, most of my criticisms weren't in the video I captured.

              I'm really on the fence about buying this, at least at launch.

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              • nogster
                MVP
                • Mar 2006
                • 3831

                #772
                Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                well i just played where kobe received the ball right near the top of the side half looking like he was waiting for a play, and just held his dribble for the entire shot clock and then launched and missed a 35foot prayer.
                very poor A.i.

                then in the very same game. fisher does the exact same thing.

                not good EA.

                the rebounding unresponsiveness is poor as well.

                and its really easy to dunk from what ive played. [that can be negated by sliders though so not really an issue.]

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                • Tha_Kid
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 6550

                  #773
                  Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                  Originally posted by nogster
                  well i just played where kobe received the ball right near the top of the side half looking like he was waiting for a play, and just held his dribble for the entire shot clock and then launched and missed a 35foot prayer.
                  very poor A.i.

                  then in the very same game. fisher does the exact same thing.
                  Beluba already commented that this isn't an issue in the final version. As for the demo, you just have to move your defender closer to the dribbler and the AI will kick back in.

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                  • NumberOneRB
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1113

                    #774
                    Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                    Love the graphics and the majority of the animations. The few things I'm not very happy about is the elimination of the post up button along with our inability to impose hard fouls on players who have an open lane to the basket. The contexual method I believe was a bad choice, and many of times I find myself trying to move the left stick slightly towards the defender and basket only to have it stolen. I think eliminating the post up button makes it very difficult for the player to maintain proper protection of the basketball.

                    I also wish there were more contexual animations for when your opponent has a clear lane to the basket and you want to give them a clean, hard foul as a last resort to prevent them from getting the easy basket. I haven't been very successul with the "Y" button concept of boxing out. I've had much more success with it by not even holding "Y" to initiate the boxout, but instead simply getting in the proper position in front of my man and allowing the box out animation to play out on its own.

                    Its going to take some time to get use to the locomotion in this game. I'm still a bit jumpy on the stick and it causes my defenders to get out of position a lot. Did I mention how stunning the graphics are? I will agree the players are a bit on the shiny side, but in many cases I didn't even think the glossiness was all that bad. I love how colorful this game is and it truly reflects just how colorful the games are presented on television. Really good job on the facial accuracies as well, most of them were spot on.

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #775
                      Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                      man, I think the honeymoons over for me........(I can still watch the Kobe pull up all day though, its so pretty) But past the presentation, I just cant get over the clunkyness of the game..

                      Alot of the animations heading to the basket can be initiated from way too far out.....and even though there are collisions, they just dont look natural alot of the time, that and its really the same handful of animations for any type of player from what im seeing...from Pau to Nelson...thats basketball as much as anything else to me...making basketball moves...and im not really feeling how the game flows as far as that....

                      also, is there a "get by" move im missing?...I love the killer crosses...but I hate usinig them to get past the defender EVERY time..

                      (EDIT: I love the way lay ups are done, this should be the standard IMO)

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                      • RayAP19
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2668

                        #776
                        Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                        And how many different dunks are in this game?

                        I can recall:

                        Two-hand grab rim dunk
                        Two-hand grab rim dunk w/fist pump
                        Two-hand no grab dunk
                        One-hand under the basket grab rim
                        One-hand under the basket, no grab
                        LeBron "Side Extension" dunk
                        LeBron "Top Extension" dunk
                        LeBron double clutch
                        Basic windmill
                        Basic one-handed dunk

                        There may be 2 or 3 more (probably a 360 that I haven't seen), but seriously... I think that's it. I haven't seen any reverses or Shaq-like power dunks. It seems only LeBron has his "style" represented in the game.

                        Yeah yeah, everyone's gonna say it's only the demo, but seriously... I don't wanna hear it. I doubt there will be that many more in the final version.

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                        • bizcanos
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1241

                          #777
                          Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                          What happened to clean layups when driving to the rim...I have seen the same congested/body to body/should have been a fouled call animation over and over and over again when performing a layup/close shot or shot in the lane.

                          Why on a fastbreak I can's stop Gasol, Bynum, Howard....they just drive to the hole and no one can stop them and they just dunk or lay it up.

                          Why do I dribble out of bounds or my feet touch the line and nothing is called.

                          Why do I clearly appear to be behind the 3pt line but its 2 points (maybe I just can't see that well).

                          Maybe this is all fixed in the final version...

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                          • Playmakers
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15344

                            #778
                            Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                            Originally posted by nogster
                            well i just played where kobe received the ball right near the top of the side half looking like he was waiting for a play, and just held his dribble for the entire shot clock and then launched and missed a 35foot prayer.
                            very poor A.i.

                            then in the very same game. fisher does the exact same thing.

                            not good EA.

                            the rebounding unresponsiveness is poor as well.

                            and its really easy to dunk from what ive played. [that can be negated by sliders though so not really an issue.]
                            I know beluba and those guys work hard and they know their game but IMO I honestly believe they have to make the AI smarter in terms of offensive awareness and off the ball movement.

                            I see tons of videos showing off stuff but most of it was Human driven not by the actual CPU players themselves. In the demo they did some wtf things that made me scratch my head. But when you play another person the entire game just looks great in terms of movement and game flow.

                            I know we can't the exact type of play by the AI on it's own as opposed to seeing a human player control the AI's movement and decisions. But man if i can somehow get the AI to be smarter offensively and make them handle the ball just a tad bit like the human controlled player I'd fall in love with the action vs the the CPU only games.

                            I'm Keeping my fingers crossed that the Final version or the patch steps it up about another notch for games vs the AI

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                            • Bornindamecca
                              Books Nelson Simnation
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 10919

                              #779
                              Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                              I think some of the problems people are having are due to the defensive settings, camera angle, and certain bugs in the demo.

                              For instance the dunks--this is a 700+MB file. They might have cut down on the amount of dunk animations in the demo.

                              AI errors--certain actions are demo exclusive bugs.

                              There are other things I see, but I'll wait until the final version before bringing them up.
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                              • Jano
                                You Dead Wrong
                                • May 2004
                                • 3161

                                #780
                                Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

                                Originally posted by AIRWADE
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                                Opinion does not equal fact that's all I'm going to say here
                                Last edited by 23; 09-13-2009, 03:59 AM.

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