NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

[RayAP19]

Re: NBA Live 10 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360)

Another tip I wanted to share, in case someone is having issues with this:

When contesting shots, you really have to wait until the player is in the air releasing it, and go for the ball. Hard to explain, but in the paint, when someone throws up a shot, wait, and then go up for the block at the height of the ball, not necessarily right when the offensive player starts to gather and shoot. I've been playing, and noticed that sometimes my defender (Dwight or Bynum) won't even appear to contest in the right direction, but I learned that when I would wait and go for the ball, NOT the player as soon as he's gathering, then I've seen some SWEET block animations and pins against the glass, and my player ALWAYS goes for the ball now that I adapted.

Just like real basketball, so again, play basketball, not videogame bball. (I played college ball with an aggressive C who always picked up two quick personals b/c he's always go for the player, not the ball at it's apex, so remembering coach cursing at him after his 2nd quick foul as he sat down helped me with this LOL)

Just cuz I noticed some of ya'll saying your defenders are jumping wrong at shots. Just know that animations aren't gon kick in and make plays for you here, but the control is there for you to make the plays if you think like an athlete.

In real basketball, you have to jump a little bit before the shooter does on inside shots. There's a reason you see so many NBA players jump on the inside without the player even shooting or pump faking at all.

Who runs to the basket then fades away? Why is that even a move you want to do?

Pretty much anyone who's ever done a fadeaway, which is 95% of the NBA.

[mrprice33]

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In one motion? You can stop and pop in this game no problem, and if you release the LS, the do a fade, it should do what you want. But running full steam to the basket then fading back on a jumper is practically impossible.

[Tomba]

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Here are my impressions of the "demo"

Bullet points
Graphically this is one nice looking game. Player models GREATLY improved. has a nba live 06 vibe though
Does not flow so smooth meaning animations tend to snap-into place when you pass the ball.again has a nba live 06 feel to it.

though it's a demo. the sliders do not "click' rather slide over on to each other causing two clicks in one.

Seems like the main focus was trying to re write the game rather than optimize thus meaning some movement/animations repeat too often and for the first time. After playing madden 10 and relishing in it's pro tak system of varied animations is feels very limited here, due in part "maybe' because of this "new' approach.

Shots look and feel great. ball physics ARE improved if not more organic.
Dribbling feels and looks VERY good.

Game def. plays more sim yet feels very "safe/basic' though it makes for more strategy around the basket and farther from it for set-plays it just doesn't have the potential of having that 'real anywhere style of basketball" that can happen in real life situations because from what i've played the animations are just not there.

These are "demo" concerns though....

[dat swag]

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OK...in trying the "Howard Post Up" play...the same thing happens the SF occupies the same space making it virtually impossible to make an interior pass to run a post play. Hopefully this is just a demo quirk and in the retail game it is fixed.

If anyone has spent time just watching the offense run a play what are your thoughts?...Are the players running the plaY???...I will need to have the retail game to really watch the plays in motion. Hopefully the running of plays will be as precise as 2k.

[Bornindamecca]

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OK...in trying the "Howard Post Up" play...the same thing happens the SF occupies the same space making it virtually impossible to make an interior pass to run a post play. Hopefully this is just a demo quirk and in the retail game it is fixed.

If anyone has spent time just watching the offense run a play what are your thoughts?...Are the players running the plaY???...I will need to have the retail game to really watch the plays in motion. Hopefully the running of plays will be as precise as 2k.

This happens on the Gasol post up play. Bynum just stands there next to him, helping Dwight get the shot block.

[HOLLIDAY1183]

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RayAP I understand that, yeah players do jump before the shooter starts to shoot, but for most shotblockers down low, it is solid fundamental basketball to raise your hands and NOT go for the players hand releasing the ball, but to go straight up after it's released. If you know a big man in the NBA who jumps first before the shot goes up, then you also know a big man who picks up fouls EARLY. You bite on a good post player, they're going up when you come down and it's most likely an And 1.
Works like a charm in Live 10, just had a session where Bynum and Pau kept trynna challenge Dwight and I got two blocks, and also caused like three misses because I was all up in them just staying put and jumping at the ball right at their release.
Man The Dream was an expert with this, back in the 90's he killed my Knicks (back when I was a NYK fan lol) cuz he NEVER went for fakes, but when the shot went up he was just going straight up and swatting s*** left and right. Mutombo great at this too.

[clivo1050]

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I have such a love/hate relationship with this game. It has many strong points over its competitor, but falls short in a few key areas. With some fine tuning/polishing, live is on the verge of greatness.

I do find I like the game better when I play with the Magic, since I play more of a team game. I tend to try and score with kobe too much and not get my team involved.

I have been trying to contest shots in the air more and find the animation for contest/block seems to kick in at this point. 2k's block system wants you to jump as they gather.

[DW3]

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i lowered the speed by 5 clicks. at this speed the animations dont seem so fast

[The 24th Letter]

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is that taip to yourself animation pre determined? or have there been cases where the other team has gotten the ball?

[inkpimp007]

My thoughts exactly. I'm not saying the game sucks, but I just can't see how everyone thinks the graphics are so great on this game. Especially with all the players hunched over and there being very small differences between huge "beast " type players and skinny small frame guys. It also focues too much on dribble moves and flashy offensive plays to be true sim. In real b-ball those flashy moves occur like 4-7 times a game. In live every play is an attempt for a crossover-shake em off-drain a jumper in the face type scenario. the dmeo is nice but nothing I've seen makes me think this game will be better than an 8

I want to point out that I feel that way about both games. They both touched up some things they needed to touch up, but all this "XX is back, XXX is so much better, XXX is going to kill XXX" is unfounded.

The graphics and player models will always be up for debate, it's an artistic interpretation of real life by BOTH games so it will always be a matter of taste.

As for flashy moves happening only 4-7 times in a real game is a bit odd to compare to virtual basketball don't you think? The point is you don't have to be flash in the game if you choose to play the game with a more realistic mindset, this is how i choose to play. The nice thing about the game is the choice is yours and your failure and success will very based on how you CHOOSE to play. Don't hate the game hate the player. So would you have EA strip the game of these abilities in order to give you the 4-7 highlights [those numbers very anyway and i don't know where you are pulling them from], If that was some how possible i could guarantee you that you'd be complaining how limited the game was.

Have we gotten that jaded that we can't be excited about the improvements in this game that finally make it enjoyable. To look for perfection in any of these games is unrealistic, it's something you wont even find in reality.

Maybe I'm showing my age when I say I can appreciate this game for it's strong qualities rather than dwelling on it's imperfections. I'm not trying to come down on you for having your opinion as long as you allow use to be excited about this years version of Live.

There are just to many things this game gets right to just dismiss this game as just hype. The game delivers authentic strategic basketball in spades, wether you like the player models or not. I can't think of any time in video game history we've been able to have access to REAL NBA team playbooks, now thats saying something if we're going to knock it's sim quality.

Mark my words this game will have even stronger appeal 6 months from now.

[HOLLIDAY1183]

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I think it may be canned... though I may have seen it happen once where Dwight tapped it and Rashard got it. Not sure...

On another note, Stan Van Gundy needs to have a short-sleeve turtleneck on, or maybe just a sweater under his jacket. But he looks weird in a full suit and tie.

LOL

Oh yeah, I kinda prefer the ball/net interaction in this game. Seems like the net has true weight. Sometimes the ball will go thru straight swish, other times it'll catch the back of the net and "catch" in the net, and others it will hit back rim or rattle in. Nice, though the misses and shots hitting the rim could use a lil more variety.

[Wiffyjustus]

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Usually demos get stale pretty fast. This one keeps me coming back. So much fun to play. Each games feels fresh and different from the last.

It seems to reward you for intelligent play, and punishes you when you try to cheese. (on all star)

Tried off ball player control. Works great, adds so much to the game. Got a nice alley from Fisher to Pau to end the half. Nice.

Rookie level is a blast if you like the easier arcade style of play without much challenge. Great for having a laugh when your mates come over.

[Mintsa]

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I dont have the demo yet (PS3 user) so please be kind when answering my question.

I know the alley oop button is now triangle (y on 360). Is it easy to do alley's ??? Can someone give a little in depth info on how they work and how easy/hard they're to pull off. Last year on 09 (especially when playing online) alley's were really easy to pull off and were kinda cheesy.

Do players always attempt a dunk or lay in ?? Will they just catch the ball, reset and gather themselves for a layup/dunk ??

Thanks ahead of time. Come thursday I will be able to answer this question myself. But if some could help out, I would appreciate it.

[RayDog253]

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I dont have the demo yet (PS3 user) so please be kind when answering my question.

Do players always attempt a dunk or lay in ?? Will they just catch the ball, reset and gather themselves for a layup/dunk ??

I see a lot more of this then actual successful attempts.

[The 24th Letter]

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yeah the net looks alot better........before it looked like they were shooting into a wooden basket lol i still see it sometimes this year not nearly as mch as last year