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  • drewbaby1414
    Rookie
    • Oct 2008
    • 438

    #1

    Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

    I've heard from the NBA Live producers on numerous occassions that the only imporvment made to the Dynasty Mode is that of the sim engine and simulated stats.

    I have seen the screens at 2k and they have come close to getting the sim stats correct....Simulated stats in Live has been horrible and made any season/dynasty mode unplayable for me.

    If anyone has the game can you please give me the run down on league leaders and player progression.

    I am not feeling the play of 2k this year...the only reason I am leaning 2k is for the deep franchise mode.....If Live gets the simmed stats down then I may make the jump.
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  • str8artist
    MVP
    • Sep 2009
    • 1065

    #2
    Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

    I dont think it is a good idea to bring up the comps name in a live thread..But...

    "I've heard from the NBA Live producers on numerous occassions that the only imporvment made to the Dynasty Mode is that of the sim engine and simulated stats."

    A Link from a valid source please.. Otherwise this is bad rumor.
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    • TheFiasco87
      Rookie
      • Jun 2009
      • 279

      #3
      Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...uestion-6.html


      Heres Iminurbase' reply to some one asking if anything changed for the Dynasty mode

      @PuntNL not too much... added DNA changing, tuned sim engine, rookies, player progression, etc. But no new modes. Focused on D. Season+LiveR

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      • drewbaby1414
        Rookie
        • Oct 2008
        • 438

        #4
        Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

        Originally posted by str8artist
        I dont think it is a good idea to bring up the comps name in a live thread..But...

        "I've heard from the NBA Live producers on numerous occassions that the only imporvment made to the Dynasty Mode is that of the sim engine and simulated stats."

        A Link from a valid source please.. Otherwise this is bad rumor.
        Wish it was a bad rumor brother....But....If the sim engine has been improved and is better than the Competitor (2K) then I will roll with the Live for the first time since 01
        "Don't complain about the show if the ticket is free."

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        • str8artist
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 1065

          #5
          Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

          Originally posted by TheFiasco87
          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...uestion-6.html


          Heres Iminurbase' reply to some one asking if anything changed for the Dynasty mode
          Thank you, sir
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          • poster
            All Star
            • Nov 2003
            • 7506

            #6
            Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

            I don't want to sound like the bad guy, but every year producers say they tuned the stats and every year once the game is out the issues are plain as day.

            All it takes is to go back and read previews of any sports game, then look at the complaints after the game is out. More recent example is Madden. From what one of their producers said, it is very hard to tweak as it can go either way with very little tweaking and some stats can be thrown off balance. That is why even though they were tweaked and looked at in Madden, it still turned out flawed.

            I didn't play much dynasty last year, so maybe they weren't that bad to begin with, not sure. Hopefully it will turn out well. Testing should catch some flawed stats to be honest, but it happens every year so I don't know enough to say why this occurs.

            With every sports game, you just have to condition yourself to expect flaws as no game will ever be perfect and you are measuring it versus the real life sport you love which isn't fair. The best sports games ever had major flaws. Just have to hope the game is strong enough in others are so you can overlook other issues like sim stats if it is indeed an issue. Sometimes I can overlook things, other times I cannot. If I can't I just rid myself of the game and move on to the next one. Hopefully this one turns out well.

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            • drewbaby1414
              Rookie
              • Oct 2008
              • 438

              #7
              Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

              Agreed....Loving the game play with Live...Really leaning towards it this year over 2K.....Being a guy who just likes the Franchise mode and occasional games online it will be difficult to make the switch....Franchise mode in 2K is pretty robust to say the least.
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              • lakers4life
                Rookie
                • Aug 2004
                • 168

                #8
                Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                I really hope when they mean, "tuned stats" they actually mean it.

                I mean, 2k10 said that but from Pared and the other guys who have 2k10 already, it seemed like Bosh was always the top rebounder with like 14 and CP3 wasn't even top 5 in assists.

                Stats are really important for me, so I hope they get this right. Otherwise, I hope it's patchable like Madden's franchise mode.

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                • drewbaby1414
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 438

                  #9
                  Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                  Originally posted by lakers4life
                  I really hope when they mean, "tuned stats" they actually mean it.

                  I mean, 2k10 said that but from Pared and the other guys who have 2k10 already, it seemed like Bosh was always the top rebounder with like 14 and CP3 wasn't even top 5 in assists.

                  Stats are really important for me, so I hope they get this right. Otherwise, I hope it's patchable like Madden's franchise mode.
                  I am with you on that L4Life....Stats are a huge part of the franchise mode in any sports title.

                  I will say that the 2K sim engine is a ton, ton, better than it has been in years....Tweak the sliders and tendencies a bit and I think we can make the realistic stats with no problem.

                  The stats in Live in the past have been just ridiculous.

                  I would say that if Live fixed the Sim Engine like they said and have great player progress and rookie progression that I will buy Live for the first time in at least 5 years.
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                  • lakers4life
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 168

                    #10
                    Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                    Me too, still yet to own a Live on 'next' gen.

                    Last Live was 06 on the PS2, haha. I rented some Lives here and there, but they were pretty hard to play with.

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                    • Bootzilla
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1433

                      #11
                      Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                      That's the reason I'm going with the Dynamic Season. All of the stats will be real. I'll mess around with all the different teams and playbooks and once the season starts I'll have a good feel for a few different teams and play games with them. I love the idea of Dynamic Season. This also eliminates the injury issues as well because the lineups are real life. If someone has the flu and misses a game he won't be in the lineup.

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                      • fjccommish
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 635

                        #12
                        Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                        I hope one of the people with the game could find it in their heart to sim a season and post some league leaders, then give their opinion of the simmed stats.

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                        • drewbaby1414
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 438

                          #13
                          Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                          Originally posted by fjccommish
                          I hope one of the people with the game could find it in their heart to sim a season and post some league leaders, then give their opinion of the simmed stats.
                          That would be awesome if someone could....I am thinking that the Dynamic Season could be pretty sweet....I like all the GM stuff though.
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                          • Bill_Abner
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1285

                            #14
                            Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                            Originally posted by fjccommish
                            I hope one of the people with the game could find it in their heart to sim a season and post some league leaders, then give their opinion of the simmed stats.
                            I am waiting for word from EA if I'm allowed to. I simmed several seasons and have a lot I want to say.
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                            • fjccommish
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 635

                              #15
                              Re: Simulated Stats...Are they fixed?

                              Why would EA not allow people to post Dynasty stats?

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