Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

[mirelle]

First of i wanna congratulate the team of nba live at EA! Imho they steped over nba2k this season....and i was a hardcore 2k guy for years...i always was begging 2k for better physics but they ignored me....SO: i want everybody who would love to see real physics in an nba game next year or at 2012 to sign up in this thread to show devs that there is demand for better physics...feel free to comment on my opinion; mirelle out

[jaosming]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

anything to remove canned multiplayer collision animations would be just fine, but using Euphoria would be ground breaking.

[warnerwlf98]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

anything to remove canned multiplayer collision animations would be just fine, but using Euphoria would be ground breaking.

I don't know about this. I wasn't that impressed with GTA IV's Euphoria application because of all the lag in moving of any kind, and when you change direction when walking you're pivoting on one foot making it look unnatural.

Rockstar spent 3 years working with Euphoria's engineers to get it into their game, and the end result wasn't that impressive, at least IMO. It would probably take longer than 3 years to incorporate it into any other game and get a good product.

I'm happy with the locomotion in Live 10 though.

[Steadtler]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

Now honestly, if you want them to focus on the game's physic tell the devs, but you shouldnt tell them *how* they should do it, because I think they know better than anyone here. Euphoria's just a middleware, not a magic wand to get better physics.

[mrprice33]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

multiple branching animations should be more than enough. i don't want guys going all ragdoll whenever they jump into guys.

[jaosming]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

Euphoria is a bad example

however the tech that is used in UFC and FNr4 would work well to get rid of the clipping that occurs when there isn't a multi-player canned animation

[ILLSmak]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

I'd rather have lag free gameplay...

-Smak

[blues rocker]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

I think the movements involved and various types of collisions that occur in the sport of basketball would make adding Euphoria nearly impossible. There's no way they could add that kind of technology by next year...probably not even on this generation of systems. I think it will be at least another 4-5 years before they can add Euphoria to a basketball game (probably longer).

[michaeljordanjr]

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Let me preface by saying this, the years of innovation in gaming are long behind us, in today's world companies like EA, activision are only concerned about maximizing sales at the compromise of quality.

this is why you see so many sequels, abandonment of PC support and really half-assed original IPs that fail.

No publisher is taking risks so developers are implored to pump out safe designs. as far as euphoria, the most inventive animation engine we've ever seen, well to bring it full scale to a sports game would cost millions and we don't even know if fans will buy it(publisher pov) so we wait for the ebb and flow of sales from a game like backbreaker to tell publishers if it's worth it or not.

games have stagnated and have stayed within the same design philosophy for at least a decade. portal semi-broke through but it wasn't a fully realized product.

[ai2k2]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

I wouldn't say Euphoria per say. Don't want to limit them in terms of creation plus I'm sure Live's engine is good just needs some fine tuning to allow some stuff. I say just play the same game as the comp. Add a ish load of Animations, Use fight night 4's facial animation for the players, Re-do the Arenas (the courts look nice but arenas don't feel Homey) and get better cloth tech for the jerseys. Oh yea and please get rid of the gloss of use new texture for the skin because the sweat is too glossy. Thought the game was sponcered by Vaseline or something lol. But if they do those few things I mentioned and add some game modes then we have a ball game fellas. The tech is inhouse, EA has great tech just have to use it like the comp used inhouse tech this yr. But go further, as long as Live is playing catchup they won't fully take the lead.

[mirelle]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

thanks for the great discussion...im not being payed by euphoria or anythings...im just speaking out for better physics because the physics have ruined every bball game for me for ages...nba live 10 is very good already but sometimes limb clipping happens or the ball is rebounded trough the backboard...ufc or fight night like physics would already be awesome imho! hope this thread is kept alive till mike wang or anybody on the team realizes its existance!

but as i mentioned before: no offence: live is already playin great his year...when you consider how bad it was the last years the improvements are astonishing...

[mrprice33]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

clipping is always going to be an issue. that's why they couldn't include clay guida or left handed fighters in UFC. if you are hoping clipping never happens i'm not sure you'll ever be satisfied.

[mirelle]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

im not talking but never happening, but getting it down to a minimal frequency...the clipping issues in live are not half as bad as in 2k10! but id like to hear an ea developer on this subject?? i heard that they sometimes post on operation sports...so maybe ill hear from "the" man himself...mr wang?:wink:

[mirelle]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

please keep this thread alive until somebody in power reads it! please everybody post your opinion on game physics...

[tanner99]

Re: Petition: Add Euphoria or equal to nba live 11

i guess eupohoria would be good if they could still make every player move and jump like themselves but im guessing itll be hard as hell.