Hate to say it but this game seems scripted

[Vinngadd]

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I think whether or not all of us say the word "scripted" or not, we've all experienced this. It doesn't make any sense for players who are rated high or even decently to miss wide open jumpers. It negates all of the work you do on offense to get an open man the ball if when he's wide open, inside the arc by a good two feet, to miss the J. I've been playing with the Nuggets, and we all know that J.R. Smith is a great 3-Point shooter, I don't recall his stats exactly, but I can say with confidence that he missed at least 4 of 5 WIDE OPEN 3-Pointers. I created a player who is rated at a 99 and he missed an uncontested lay-up. That's garbage. And it's frustrating. You're playing a great game, have a good lead, doing all the right things, and then all of a sudden, a virtual switch gets flipped and they start killing you. You can play the best defense possible, they will still kill you. I can't put the controller down though. Still playing.

[sportyguyfl31]

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I dont understand why people get shocked at the thought of NBA players missing a open shot. It happens.......

[ehh]

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I dont understand why people get shocked at the thought of NBA players missing a open shot. It happens.......

As evidenced by the Knicks lovely 7-41 shooting from beyond the arch IRL last night.

[carnalnirvana]

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people never stop amazing me,

the people complaining dont want to shoot 20/25 but they complain about missing shots then the same people complaing that the game is too easy and they can make every shot....

the game has no " run AI" its basketball kobe wont make them all get real folks

play on pro or get sliders try to fix it to your likeing instead of crying for a patch, some like competetive games, this is reason why games like fifa and madden is so watered down,

if you are a casual gamer and dont like the frustration there are other difficulties and sliders available,

TIP:

and no one notices that the so called " runs" happen when their starters are tired and still in the game, if your main guys are not on the floor, use the entire shot clock for most possesions and call a timeout to help your guys recover, use the " tight" assignment if you are getting guys late to challenge shots, cant get boards use" crash boards" so your guys try harder.

lastly know your players: dont drive the lane with a average player and expect to get the contact basket, dont pull up with guys who cant shoot and exoect it to go in and it does not matter how open he is and if you doubt me just remember my boy ERIC SNOW this guy got 10 WIDE open shots a game in the nba and would miss 7 every game

[Pared]

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I understand runs because defenses tighten up, but when wide open shots magically start missing and the other team makes fadeaway 3's, thats just not right, It has the feeling of bein out of control.

I dont understand why people get shocked at the thought of NBA players missing a open shot. It happens.......

Read the OP's post. It's best no one confuses the two situations.

It's a matter of the context in which these things are happening, not the fact that it is happening, IMO.

[The_Glow]

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Read the OP's post. It's best no one confuses the two situations.

It's a matter of the context in which these things are happening, not the fact that it is happening, IMO.

There is no context in the OP though, he basically saying that a certain player shouldnt miss an open shot or should hit 66% from 3 attempts.

What Carnal is saying is to factor in aspects such as fatigue ect.

I think it's a fair point.

[Da-Man]

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I agree, this game is very scripted especially with that stupid interception animation that u see everytime u try to pass the ball around the perimeter.

[Bootzilla]

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people never stop amazing me,

the people complaining dont want to shoot 20/25 but they complain about missing shots then the same people complaing that the game is too easy and they can make every shot....

the game has no " run AI" its basketball kobe wont make them all get real folks

play on pro or get sliders try to fix it to your likeing instead of crying for a patch, some like competetive games, this is reason why games like fifa and madden is so watered down,

if you are a casual gamer and dont like the frustration there are other difficulties and sliders available,

TIP:

and no one notices that the so called " runs" happen when their starters are tired and still in the game, if your main guys are not on the floor, use the entire shot clock for most possesions and call a timeout to help your guys recover, use the " tight" assignment if you are getting guys late to challenge shots, cant get boards use" crash boards" so your guys try harder.

lastly know your players: dont drive the lane with a average player and expect to get the contact basket, dont pull up with guys who cant shoot and exoect it to go in and it does not matter how open he is and if you doubt me just remember my boy ERIC SNOW this guy got 10 WIDE open shots a game in the nba and would miss 7 every game

The thing is the game plays just fine with realistic shooting percentages and then during the runs things get ridiculous and repeat a pattern darn near every game regardless of opponent.

I just played a 12 min qtr game on all-star me Celtics cpu OKC. And just like every game I've played, I get a double digit lead (twice). Cpu comes back. Did I panic? No. Were my players tired? No. Most of the runs happen at the end of quarters and the cpu hadn't subbed yet. Their guys definitely get some sort of boost. They are flying around getting offensive boards, taking/making quick/bad shots etc.

I'm up 6 with 3:00 minutes to go. I've survived two runs after I've been up by as many as 12 on two occasions. The game has been pretty nip tuck with me keeping a 4 to 6 point lead. Then it happens again.

Durant gets to the hole hits shot and 1.

I hit Rondo on a cut to the basket. Uncontested layup missed.

Jeff Green and 1. I call a time out.

I get a mismatch. Kyle Weaver on KG. Two foot jump hook. Miss.

Durant and 1. 9-0 run. Time out.

I get Paul Pierce on a nice take to the hoop. Contact. No call.

One pass. Kyle Weaver. 3. 12-0 run.

OKC won 8 road games last year. Boston is a strong home team yet it seems like this doesn't come into play. When the AI wants to beat you it will. Nothing you can really do about it. I'm cool with some big runs, comebacks etc. But, this plays out with an insane frequency.

[The 24th Letter]

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I dont how many time outs your team call, or how much relaxing you do..... players like tyrone lue shouldnt start draining contested shots especially when your "playing the dna" and forcing the ball into his hands to make a play...it simply happens too often on all star and above...

[Tha_Kid]

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people never stop amazing me
...

the game has no " run AI" its basketball kobe wont make them all get real folks

This amazes me a bit

Basketball games have had "Run AI" for awhile. It's not catchup logic but the games are made to simulate the ebb & flow of NBA games, including runs & droughts. The key is making things feel realistic, and clearly a good bit of people feel the game didn't do as great a job of mixing things up as it could have.

It's funny, when i'm playing the AI, I find the most annoying thing is when it makes the impossible possible to suit the desired outcome. Little things like sliding rebounds, fade threes, and drive warps don't happen all that often but believe that when they do its for a reason lol.

[oOausarOo]

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I agree, this game is very scripted especially with that stupid interception animation that u see everytime u try to pass the ball around the perimeter.

When that happens to you it means you didn't have the passing lane and made a bad pass. You must always make sure before any pass that you have the right angle and a wide enough opening. You can see before the pass is made if there's a good chance it will be deflected or stolen.

[gymrat8168]

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When I first got the game I felt that it was somewhat scripted. However, I have since come to believe that its not. The biggest flaw is the lack of fouls called on the CPU which is getting addressed in the first patch.

I can blowout the teams I should and have close games or get beat by the teams that I should. What I have found that helps against the CPU runs is focusing on mismatches. I just crushed the Warriors by exploiting their small lineup and killing them inside. Anytime they sarted to string together a few buckets I would slow it down and exploit them inside.

If your playing a team that excels in the half court try playing more up tempo and push the pace of the game. I also noticed that you can pick n roll alot of teams to death if executed properly.

[shadox]

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I'm up 6 with 3:00 minutes to go. I've survived two runs after I've been up by as many as 12 on two occasions. The game has been pretty nip tuck with me keeping a 4 to 6 point lead. Then it happens again.

Durant gets to the hole hits shot and 1.

I hit Rondo on a cut to the basket. Uncontested layup missed.

Jeff Green and 1. I call a time out.

I get a mismatch. Kyle Weaver on KG. Two foot jump hook. Miss.

Durant and 1. 9-0 run. Time out.

I get Paul Pierce on a nice take to the hoop. Contact. No call.

One pass. Kyle Weaver. 3. 12-0 run.

OKC won 8 road games last year. Boston is a strong home team yet it seems like this doesn't come into play. When the AI wants to beat you it will. Nothing you can really do about it. I'm cool with some big runs, comebacks etc. But, this plays out with an insane frequency.

Thats what I mean.
Its one thing to stop the AI defensivly, but what do you do if your offense struggles that hard at the same time?

All the tips are nice, but it just leads nowhere if the AI hits unbelievable shots in a row, while you guys (doesn't matter if starter or from the bench) suddenly stop to know a thing about basketball. And this definatly happens on Dynasty.

The annoying thing is, that this ruins the whole experience.
All the pieces are fine for itself, but I don't want to see crappy players turn into Kobes and my players directly going from hot to ice cold.

The runs are fine and momentum is fine...but with the current strenght.

[Pared]

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There is no context in the OP though, he basically saying that a certain player shouldnt miss an open shot or should hit 66% from 3 attempts.

What Carnal is saying is to factor in aspects such as fatigue ect.

I think it's a fair point.

I think there's enough context, especially when says the CPU is making unbelievable shots.

Perceptions is often reality in these games no? It differs person to person.

If someone is getting beat by DWade, they often concede. But when Dragic starts performing like Nash and you can't differentiate the two, all while your team goes cold... I can understand where the point comes from.

They just have to do something to make it feel less scripted to the user, that's all.

[therizing02]

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If the game isn't scripted to allow runs for BOTH the AI and the USER on the higher then why does this always seem to happen?

I've been playing on the PRO level and having some great games. I figure I'll try the AS level because I'm pretty comfortable with the controls, my teams DNA, the plays and what my team likes to do.

Cavs (me) vs. Indiana

I jump out to a 31-18 lead after the first quarter. I'm shooting 51% from the field and Indiana is around 32%.

In the second quarter Indian proceeds to shoot 69% from the field and I shoot 26%. I trail at the half 57-51. Use TOs? Check. Look at fatigue? Check. When I need a basket run a solid play that will end up with a good shot? Check. You get the idea. NOTHING was changing the "script".

Third quarter starts and immediately you can feel the "script" changing. The Cavs go on a 12-0 run. All of the sudden shots are dropping, I'm getting OFF REB and Danny Granger even missed 2 free throws!!

At that point I just shut it off.

I have MANY games that have played out this way. I understand the idea behind trying to recreate the ebb and flow of a real NBA game. It's just been grossly exaggerated which makes the game laughable and a cheese fest on AS or SS. They just need to tone it down a bit. Back to PRO level.