Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

[23]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

Let me know...thats definitely one to mark down

[23]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

lol, he does dance around at times but he dunks alot im my games but then there is the dreaded fade away he does and i have yet to see him do a hook shot, does he have a sig shot ?

Andrew Bynum all star default
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[michaeljordanjr]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

Andrew Bynum all star default
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12 seconds left on the shotclock, that was the CPU? /CRINGE

The game logic needs a lot of work.

[Playmakers]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

I've been gathering some data that i'm going to forward to someone.

That Andrew Bynum crap is already on my list. If you guys see anymore players doing things their DNA shouldn't allow post the name of that player for me and the shot's he's taking out of the normal.

I've been trying to gather information team by team about 2-3 players per team. If you have information you'd like observed post it in here there's a chance we can get this stuff fixed down the road in the near future.

[Playmakers]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

Well im doing this for purposes of what guys are looking for here.. to see what affects what

I'd like to see less of a few things though. Lets start with the bigs

Players like PG's matching the weight on C's and PF's during contact animations... should be kinda how Shaq pummeled KG when they went head on

Strength.. like I saw that one vid in the EASW thread where birdman backed down Shaq.... no go man, that has to be fixed

Id like to see big men like Shaq and Dwight not do fadeaways on me.. Yao is probably the only C that does this

I have to look i think it has something to do with Defensive Post Strength/Defensive Post footwork

I've been gathering some things where we can keep it to an individual basis as opposed to globally because I think the game is on the right track it just needs further tweaks for individual player performance/tendencies

[23]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

yeah man I kinda agree with you...

I just want to make sure we do get things like that right

Now do you really have an issue with the transition game?

[Playmakers]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

yeah man I kinda agree with you...

I just want to make sure we do get things like that right

Now do you really have an issue with the transition game?

Not on Pro level as I explained to l4d during our slider conversations I think that level plays the best in terms of the transistion game.

Right now i'm strictly working on Super Star level because i like the awareness of the CPU but i'm trying to the find the proper ratings that will open up the transistion game on that level.

Fast Break Awareness doesn't work on that level even if you put all players to 99 overall because of the speed cheat where defenders kinda warp in front of the offensive players.

It's been the hardest thing for me to put together and figure out right now. I'm trying to make Super Star transistion game operate like the way it does on Pro. But it might be something EA hard coded in order for the game not to turn into a Fastbreak Festival.

That is the only thing keeping Super Star level from being the best game play in the entire game.

[23]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

You got me, i experimented with all kinds of ratings last night to no avail
but it was all star... well they did push it up the floor though, just took alot of Js

i could tell you all that i did

[carnalnirvana]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

i think i finally found the rating that controls the trasnition game, testting it now, i'll let you guys know later today

[carnalnirvana]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

You got me, i experimented with all kinds of ratings last night to no avail
but it was all star... well they did push it up the floor though, just took alot of Js

i could tell you all that i did

what did you try 23?

[23]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

A few things
First off everyone in the game has a dunk vs layup tendency that is zero
Don't ask me why

Then I completely maxed the likelyhood to shoot inside to 99
Likelyhood to shot from midrange to 10
Likelyhood to shoot from outide to zero

You'd think all they'd do is driv but I think dna helps that

[carnalnirvana]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

PM i dont wanna hijack your thread but we are here already so...... i hope u dont mind...

still testing this but " hands on the perimeter" controls the tempo and transition game


why ?--- still testing

if the PG has the highest rating he initiates the offense had same for kobe, lebron etc BUT

HOW THIS HELPS TRANSITION-- on most rebs the big guys pass the ball to the pg or the person with the highest HOP rating and they setup the offense

if you give the pg the lowest rating and say give melo a 75 while billups has a 70 when billups gets the pass he immediately hits melo on the break what melo does then is up to him dna( i can get him to drive ) thats the easy part.......

also 90+ HOP seems to mean a slow offense where as 70's seem quicker---- still early and testing

here's the problem with this and why i am still testing, if the guy lets say the swing man( melo) gets the reb he does not always run out because he now has the highest HOP and will initiate the offense

some guys who are ball hogs like jr if you give him a decent HOP he jacks up MANY shots....

also court vision rating is too lowon most bigs they dont seethe outlet pass

also once this is edited the cpu will break out 7/10 long rebs there will be no more walk up the court grind out setplays only on scores

23 to get them to drive their close dna% has to be higher than the others and their guard% has to be 40+ but this will make them drive hard and more fouls will result


bottom line it seems transition is programmed to opperate from lowest to highest HOP rating and shooter mentality

[23]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

HOP really?

Well what I dont think would be cool is to have to give everyone an across the board rating, but do you think that would help?

[carnalnirvana]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

HOP really?

Well what I dont think would be cool is to have to give everyone an across the board rating, but do you think that would help?

everyone the same i tried that, but it seems there has to be some type of priority system, this is why i wont call it a fix for the issue, i am looking for the cause, the fix is another issue...

becuase in my games guys run out but the ball does not come when i did this the ball got passed 9/10 times

[23]

Re: Who wants to improve DNA and work with me in further seperating players?

So there is a chance there is a balance in the 80's somewhere

..oh and no matter what I toned down, seems like i couldnt curb that help D alot either

any suggestions besides dumbing down the AI