Wide open shots miss more than contested shots

[TMagic]

Re: Wide open shots miss more than contested shots

I just am not seeing this at all.

I've had games playing against others online where Jameer Nelson has gone 10/10 just because the other guy is doing dumb things and leaving him OPEN.

So I just can't agree with the notion that the game makes you miss shots just to give good percentages.

[mikenoob]

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Live '11 definitely needs to have a mode to practice your release like 2K where you get feedback; good, early, late, perfect, etc.

I've probably played 50 Knicks games and still don't have a clue where Duhon's release point is.

Sit in the Academy Gym and shoot with him over and over until you can hit it consistently.

[blues rocker]

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I just am not seeing this at all.

I've had games playing against others online where Jameer Nelson has gone 10/10 just because the other guy is doing dumb things and leaving him OPEN.

So I just can't agree with the notion that the game makes you miss shots just to give good percentages.

Maybe the reason some of us are having problems with missing open shots is because we aren't timing the shot release right. Perhaps the game is just too sensitive to the release point. I don't think the release point should play such a large role in the shot success. It seems like you have to release PERFECTLY or you will brick it. This is just too annoying in my opinion. If my guy is wide open, I don't want the shot to be ruined because I released a millisecond too early.

[The 24th Letter]

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I dont agree with the title of the thread necessarily....
but I cant help but feeling theres times where %'s take over....whether im winning or losing..

Theres a reason those boxscores are so pretty IMO lol

[randombrother]

Re: Wide open shots miss more than contested shots

If you guys are missing these wide open shots how about getting the player involved in other ways. In the nba they do it all the time. Guys have off or completely bad games offensively but get themselves involved in other areas or take it to the hole and try to get to the line.

[ILLSmak]

Re: Wide open shots miss more than contested shots

It's definitely got a situational percentage for release. Something I HATE that they brought over from 2k... meaning that the percentage is determined by situation more than release. This is why people make crazy fade aways, too, I think. Momentum. You can just see it coming.

But if you shoot with a good release you will NOT miss more than a contested shot. That's an absurd statement. I can dispute that 100x. Even having a player in the area affects it. However, don't forget that jumping at someone (if they have a perfect release) is not really contested... it's more of a late close.

-Smak

[ehh]

Re: Wide open shots miss more than contested shots

Sit in the Academy Gym and shoot with him over and over until you can hit it consistently.

I have done this but I still get no confirmation on release timing. I've probably taken 300 shots in the Hangar with Ray Allen and still can't make a damn thing with him. Same with Steph Curry.

[loadleft]

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I have done this but I still get no confirmation on release timing. I've probably taken 300 shots in the Hangar with Ray Allen and still can't make a damn thing with him. Same with Steph Curry.

The confirmation I use is if it's swish I got it perfect, if it rims in I am little off, and miss obviously I am all wrong. Not sure if that's the correct way to do it but it's served me well. I even think that if I miss long then I am late and short early but I don't rely on that to much because I am not confident it's accurate.

[michaeljordanjr]

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If you guys are missing these wide open shots how about getting the player involved in other ways. In the nba they do it all the time. Guys have off or completely bad games offensively but get themselves involved in other areas or take it to the hole and try to get to the line.

I don't want to sound redundant.

But wide open shot misses happen CONSISTENTLY with myself and my opponent online and ENOUGH times to NOTICE and make a thread about.

I'm not the only one...and you could be another if you tried this experiment.

[moemoe24]

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Look bro Im loving Live and theres no conspiracy intended with this thread. Do you have any idea how frustrating it is to miss 2-3 wide open shots in a row after you work hard to get Ray Allen open? Then lose the game online cause it makes no sense?

All I know is what I saw, if I instantly release the ball or if I hold it for very long, the consistency is so terrible I have no idea what to THINK.

Maybe Mike needs to add a shooting meter like in Sony's NBA game?

It has nothing to do with you hating or loving it, its the fact that you are conducting experiments to prove its scripted. So you prove to yourself that its scripted, So what then?? Are you going to quit playing Live??

Its just funny that you and others say the game is unequivocally scripted, like you KNOW with 100% certainty that its that way. Its very funny to me, thats all.

[NC State-31 UNC-27]

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I can't make a shot with Kobe to save my life.

But I read this thread and then played a bunch today and noticed I seemed to miss more than I would expect when I was wide open. Honestly though, players miss open shots. I'm fine with it

[econoodle]

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Just to add my red cent, I don't see it.
And I play with the Knicks.
Gallo hits wide open shots, 'Mase in your face' shots, runners.
same goes for Free Candy and Ill Will.
Not to forget Nate.

[blues rocker]

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I have been playing both 2k and Live back and forth to compare them, and I have to say Live seems pretty scripted. Shot success in Live is not based on whether you're open. Players will blow wide open jumpers and then make contested ones.

From my experience, 2k's shot success is almost totally determined by how open you are. In 2k, wide open shots go in most of the time, and contested shots miss most of the time. This is what you want, because it rewards you for getting open, and it rewards you on defense for staying on your man and cotesting the CPU's shots. Overall 2k just feels more rewarding to play because of this.

[celg35]

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I know this won't work for On-line, but if you go to edit player and under thier dna for shooting you will see the % for contested and uncontested shots. what i did for the Cavs is increased the uncontested to 65%( usually the max for this) for guys like Gibson, West and Williams, it has helped out a lot.

dont change the anything else but that and you will see that it is much better

[capj]

Re: Wide open shots miss more than contested shots

I don't want to sound redundant.

But wide open shot misses happen CONSISTENTLY with myself and my opponent online and ENOUGH times to NOTICE and make a thread about.

I'm not the only one...and you could be another if you tried this experiment.

It doesn't help that they messed up shot releases for players too, so it makes things worse.