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  • econoodle
    MVP
    • Sep 2009
    • 4884

    #1

    CPu Passing/Running Plays?

    I noticed in extensive play sessions that the cpu doesnt seem to be running actual plays. They hardly pass either, at least compared to 2k.

    Majority of the time they bring the ball up, stand there and take the shot, Or its one pass to someone who will shoot even with someone in their grill.
    They even take it to the hole in the land of the giants with two guys awaiting, still no pass.

    Anyone picking up on this?
    Is it DNA related? Are guys just heck bent on fulfilling thier DNA., playcalling be damned?
    Oh man, hollar if you hear me.
    Or even if you don't.
  • bigsmallwood
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 1474

    #2
    Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

    I have not experienced this....most teams I play, run plays like they do in real life...Playing the GS Warriors is a totally different experience than playing against the Spurs...or even the Cavs...
    “What’s better than one billionaire? 2.....”

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    • econoodle
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 4884

      #3
      Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

      Originally posted by bigsmallwood
      I have not experienced this....most teams I play, run plays like they do in real life...Playing the GS Warriors is a totally different experience than playing against the Spurs...or even the Cavs...
      Bigsmallwood, thanks for the input.
      What have you noticed with the Heat? they have been my biggest sample size so far.

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      • bigsmallwood
        MVP
        • Aug 2008
        • 1474

        #4
        Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

        Originally posted by econoodle
        Bigsmallwood, thanks for the input.
        What have you noticed with the Heat? they have been my biggest sample size so far.
        I haven't played against them yet...I have only played as Miami...I will run about 5 games later on and let you know. :wink:
        “What’s better than one billionaire? 2.....”

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        • econoodle
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 4884

          #5
          Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

          Originally posted by bigsmallwood
          I haven't played against them yet...I have only played as Miami...I will run about 5 games later on and let you know. :wink:
          Awesome! Thanks can't wait for your thoughts.

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          • bigsmallwood
            MVP
            • Aug 2008
            • 1474

            #6
            Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

            Originally posted by econoodle
            Awesome! Thanks can't wait for your thoughts.
            I am running a game against MIA right now with Washington Wizards....All-Star 6minute quarters...Looking for those plays
            “What’s better than one billionaire? 2.....”

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            • bigsmallwood
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 1474

              #7
              Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

              Shockingly....MIA has only ran 1 play out of the entire first quarter....WOW.

              Other teams I have played...seemed to run plays....MIA doesn't seem to be using them.
              “What’s better than one billionaire? 2.....”

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              • econoodle
                MVP
                • Sep 2009
                • 4884

                #8
                Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                Originally posted by bigsmallwood
                Shockingly....MIA has only ran 1 play out of the entire first quarter....WOW.

                Other teams I have played...seemed to run plays....MIA doesn't seem to be using them.
                Wow, i wonder why.
                I thought something was up.

                Hmmm.

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                • econoodle
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 4884

                  #9
                  Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                  well I played a heats/knicks game in 2k and they passed like crazy, from under the hoop and back out to the top of the 3 pt. line, aroudn the wing, everything.

                  noone else noticing lack of ball movement?

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                  • stizz
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1718

                    #10
                    Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                    I've seen teams run plays and when they do, they'll try to complete it even if you're standing between the passer and the receiver.

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                    • econoodle
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 4884

                      #11
                      Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                      Originally posted by stizz
                      I've seen teams run plays and when they do, they'll try to complete it even if you're standing between the passer and the receiver.
                      Could this be another fatal flaw in the DNA?
                      Are these guys being hard coded to do things? meaning if they need to get a certain number of shots they will do it? If they dont pass a lto in real life, they wont in the game, even if they are guarded and NEED to get rid of the ball?

                      This is ugh.
                      Its REALLY noticeable next to 2k

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                      • stizz
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 1718

                        #12
                        Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                        I wouldn't say they're hardcoded to get a certain amount of shots, I think they're not programmed to break the play if something wrong happens.

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                        • econoodle
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 4884

                          #13
                          Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                          Originally posted by stizz
                          I wouldn't say they're hardcoded to get a certain amount of shots, I think they're not programmed to break the play if something wrong happens.
                          oh ok
                          i am art wits end with this, hopefully i hear something on the patch details by wednesday, or 2k stays and this goes.
                          i am getting sick and tired of the cpu running down passing once TOPS and then shooting.
                          I mean i watched the knicks vs heat in cpu v cpu and the KNICKS aint passing.

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                          • blues rocker
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1921

                            #14
                            Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                            Originally posted by econoodle
                            I noticed in extensive play sessions that the cpu doesnt seem to be running actual plays. They hardly pass either, at least compared to 2k.

                            Majority of the time they bring the ball up, stand there and take the shot, Or its one pass to someone who will shoot even with someone in their grill.
                            They even take it to the hole in the land of the giants with two guys awaiting, still no pass.

                            Anyone picking up on this?
                            Is it DNA related? Are guys just heck bent on fulfilling thier DNA., playcalling be damned?
                            Oh man, hollar if you hear me.
                            Or even if you don't.
                            Yep - Live's CPU offense has been terrible for me so far. The CPU AI on offense has no brain. Most of the time they dribble the ball up and will make one pass and then jack up a contested jumper. Live's CPU also fails to recognize wide open players. When the CPU is on offense, it will have a wide open player somewhere, but instead of passing to him, it will jack up a horrible contested shot. Live's CPU seems to run no plays or screens at all. They just jack up shots randomly.

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                            • blues rocker
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1921

                              #15
                              Re: CPu Passing/Running Plays?

                              Originally posted by econoodle
                              Could this be another fatal flaw in the DNA?
                              Are these guys being hard coded to do things? meaning if they need to get a certain number of shots they will do it? If they dont pass a lto in real life, they wont in the game, even if they are guarded and NEED to get rid of the ball?

                              This is ugh.
                              Its REALLY noticeable next to 2k
                              Yep, that's what I think as well. I think EA was so concerned with players getting their DNA stats, they forgot to give the players any actual intelligence. There is just no passing or ball movement in Live that I have noticed...It's like all the players are just running on individual player DNA and there is no "team concept" built into the AI.

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