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  • sportyguyfl31
    MVP
    • Nov 2005
    • 4745

    #961
    Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

    Originally posted by loadleft
    You know what, complaining without a suggestion for improvement is just nagging and complaining. It's likely that if the dev's had an idea of how to be better this game would be better, I'd like to think so anyway! I am really trying to force myself to like Live 10 but am failing miserably so in the spirit of constructive criticism I suggest that the dev's take a different approach or more of a previous approach to game difficulty.

    Instead of making guys more likely to score against the D on higher difficulties and on runs why not make it harder to play D? It was kinda like this for me pre-patch. and what I mean is say Kobe has a set freestyle ability rating of 99, and then when he freestyles I just plain can't keep up with him, it's like I am on skates and that in ability to guard him when he freestlyes is consistent through all the levels, rookie to superstar. What changes though is the frequency that he freestyles or uses other tactics to get open. On rookie he doesn't freestyle much so I can check him, on superstar he's freestyling and drop-stepping through double teams in other words just a nightmare to check no matter what I do, so I have to scheme (plan double teams, run zones, deny him the ball, etc.) to defend him. Then guys like Ray Allen on rookie the CPU would be kinda laxed about setting picks and when they do set them they would be easy to get over but as difficulty increases the CPU would set more and more solid picks creating real life basketball problems vs. the current video game problems like how to stop Ray Allen from shooting in the face of my good D. This would also negate guys like D. Fisher and A. Varejo from taking over games, because if there is no ratings boost for them, they can try to freestyle all they want but with there low rating in that department they would just fail at it. This would also be the case about going around picks.

    In my mind the problem with these guys as things are now is they get a ratings boost and a guy that's already a high rated jump shooter just becomes more likely to shoot if the D on him is not 100% perfect or same thing for a guy that scores well on garbage points. Conversely if the CPU does more of what it takes to put these guys in good scoring positions then it's reasonable that they score. At the same time they are no more likely to score against good D or out of position D on superstar than rookie.

    I am not sure if I am explaining this correctly but what I am getting at is if the dev's chose to use real basketball as a means to make the game more or less difficult I think a lot of the problems in this game would be gone and stuff like suction D would not be needed. Look at it like this: what separates a team like ATL 2008 from ATL 2010? Same basic talent but execution makes them more difficult to defend. Live should take that approach, don't boost the ratings on runs and higher difficulty, make them execute!

    Sports game have been like this for eons.

    They translate difficulty, by allowing things to happen that dont make sense.

    they have it backwards: The lower difficulty is where the horse crap should be seen...and the higher difficulties should be the more sim, where you have to use tactics and adjustments to succeed.

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #962
      Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

      ^ I won't play either of EA's bball games this year on anything besides Pro or Varsity (the college equivalent of Pro).
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

      "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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      • DirtyJerz32
        All Star
        • Aug 2007
        • 7617

        #963
        Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

        I broke down and picked it up this morning for the ps3. Damn RROD 360.

        Anyway, I only played one game (Magic cpu v. Hawks me in Dyamic Season) so far and it does feel different in terms of gameplay. I turned off goaltending so I didn't even have to deal with that. But, I did notice a better feel of the game. It may just be me coming from the 360 but, I def didn't see any WTF moments in that one game. Howard was down low the entire game. Carter was shooting 3's the entire game. Actually his first 2 shots were 3's (just like last night) which he made.

        I'll report back later when I play more but, so far so good. We'll see what happens later.

        Oh, ehh this is all your fault by the way... Your posts are the reason why I picked it up Lol. Well that and not being able to play my 360 also.
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        • sportyguyfl31
          MVP
          • Nov 2005
          • 4745

          #964
          Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

          Originally posted by ehh
          ^ I won't play either of EA's bball games this year on anything besides Pro or Varsity (the college equivalent of Pro).

          Have you had to do a bunch of slider tinkering?

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #965
            Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

            Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
            Have you had to do a bunch of slider tinkering?
            Yeah definitely but any higher level and the CPU has ******** physical advantages that make me SMH too frequently.
            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

            "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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            • sportyguyfl31
              MVP
              • Nov 2005
              • 4745

              #966
              Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by ehh
              Yeah definitely but any higher level and the CPU has ******** physical advantages that make me SMH too frequently.

              i may try this. I can do well on ALL-Star, but you are right, the CPU is able to do things that you simply cannot do on that level, and above.

              what set do you use?

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #967
                Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                I have my own, I know I have the block sliders turned down for hum and CPU and post-patch I dropped the CPU help D effectiveness a little bit too because there was too much sliding/skating.

                I still need to find a good setting for the shooting sliders for hum and CPU, right now there aren't enough missed shots when wide open, it's basically automatic on default with a decent shooter.
                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                • BlackBerry
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 351

                  #968
                  Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                  I'm back to playing on PRO. The game doesn't feel all jerky and plays very smooth. It's a much more fun and well rounded game. All-star and above, the computer just turns into a hall of famer.

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                  • wsu_gb23
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1641

                    #969
                    Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                    I might switch to PRO after playing a game between the Nets and Magic on All-Star. I was the Magic playing at home, and I lost 103-98. It's basically impossible to play defense. It's all about FG percentages.

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                    • DW3
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1056

                      #970
                      Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                      i broke down and picked this back up again. ive been having a blast on varsity(college) so i think i may just stick to pro! I got tired of the other nba game, so i picked this up for 49.99 at gamestop.
                      Last edited by DW3; 11-30-2009, 08:06 AM.
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                      • Ballatician
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 236

                        #971
                        Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                        I came in here to type the same thing lol. I'm getting to that point I was last year when I started to play Live 09 heavy. The other game is starting to feel like the same car with a new coat of paint again and I'm craving something different. I noticed the thread about the devs not being available anymore because they are working on next year's game. Is the second patch still coming out??

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                        • Pappy Knuckles
                          LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 15966

                          #972
                          Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                          Even with some of the issues Live has it's still a much more enjoyable game than the other NBA title as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if another patch is coming or not, but I'd rather them take their time and get it right then throw together something with more problems.

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                          • ataman5
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 2620

                            #973
                            Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                            Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
                            Even with some of the issues Live has it's still a much more enjoyable game than the other NBA title as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if another patch is coming or not, but I'd rather them take their time and get it right then throw together something with more problems.
                            ^^
                            Exactly i would rather have a patch mid january then to have more problems early.

                            That's what Football manager does every year releasing a final patch with nearly all the problems solved in february. Maybe for Nba it could be Trade deadline time etc.

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #974
                              Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                              Saw this move for the first time, too bad I missed the shot.


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                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                              • Super Glock
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 776

                                #975
                                Re: NBA Live 10 Patch Impressions (360, PS3)

                                Originally posted by Ballatician
                                I came in here to type the same thing lol. I'm getting to that point I was last year when I started to play Live 09 heavy. The other game is starting to feel like the same car with a new coat of paint again and I'm craving something different. I noticed the thread about the devs not being available anymore because they are working on next year's game. Is the second patch still coming out??
                                Yes the patch is still coming out according to one of developers that pm me

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