PS3 Update Status as well as the Second Update forthcoming

**Court_vision** · 11-04-2009, 02:40 AM

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It's good to hear Marcus.

I always hate the words "next year's game"...a week after the season begins. I think you can kind of understand where people are coming from when we get frustrated. It's good you've explained your position though and given the context.

Side note: 23 has a thread going in the "Other" basketball section that's got some good points re development cycles.

It's good to see this years stuff isn't being abandoned though. Come back in LIVE 11 with rebounding fixed and a legit transition game and you'll shut me up for good :wink:

**LAKE4742** · 11-04-2009, 03:22 AM

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Originally posted by stephensonmc

We're always listening.

Guys,

It would be awesome, if we aren't on the boards for a bit, to not rush to judgment and call for our heads at every sudden mishap or issue that comes along. There are reasons we aren't here (some personal, some work related). The personal I won't get into, but the work related ones are simple:

1.) We are working on NBA LIVE 11 and since we are on a yearly cycle, we need to do things quickly. This doesn't mean that we aren't constantly monitoring what's going on for 10, but it's the reality of this sports industry.

2.) While we're working on '11, we're also trying to find the reasons why things are going on with '10. We have a daily update system that is tying into another system (Synergy) on a daily basis. This is new tech everytime we add stuff (which will always be the case). Things will go wrong, it's software and it's impossible to have a test case as big as all of you. Trust me, when we get the issues resolved, they should be resolved for good.

To be so vocal for an entire year, and then not much once your game is actually released is a bit....weird. But, it's ok, we understand what your saying. Right, guys?

Right? *crickets*

**NdaZone3** · 11-04-2009, 05:11 AM

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Stop releasing broken incomplete games and there will be way less problems and more understanding. We are not beta testers. Beta testers get the game early and free.

These patches and waitng are getting rediculous from every EA game. You cant buy a game now that you can expect to play without waiting months or a half of year waiting for patches and another patch to fix what the patch before it added or broke.

You still cant play Madden and that Patch 2 has been going on for months diffrent game but you get the point. NBA Live patch 1 came out at a decent time for 360 but it made the game worse and now we got to wait for patch 2. I have PS3 and am still waiting on patch 1 and then I know Im gonna have to wait another month or longer for patch 2 to fix patch 1.

This has to be a joke! All I wanted in a patch for Live 10 was a post up button and that was it.

**dragon4thQ** · 11-04-2009, 07:01 AM

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Thanks Yaw for the notice

**thakeaf** · 11-04-2009, 09:07 AM

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Good because I had been checking here all last week hoping the announcement of it being up for the PS3 would be here.

**Cuse 15** · 11-04-2009, 09:35 AM

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Thanks for keeping us posted

**Pared** · 11-04-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by NdaZone3

Stop releasing broken incomplete games and there will be way less problems and more understanding. We are not beta testers. Beta testers get the game early and free.

These patches and waitng are getting rediculous from every EA game. You cant buy a game now that you can expect to play without waiting months or a half of year waiting for patches and another patch to fix what the patch before it added or broke.

You still cant play Madden and that Patch 2 has been going on for months diffrent game but you get the point. NBA Live patch 1 came out at a decent time for 360 but it made the game worse and now we got to wait for patch 2. I have PS3 and am still waiting on patch 1 and then I know Im gonna have to wait another month or longer for patch 2 to fix patch 1.

This has to be a joke! All I wanted in a patch for Live 10 was a post up button and that was it.

Please stop posts like this. OS is not your personal forum to gripe on. Show some restraint in any video game you buy from now on if you don't want things "broken" or you feel you are a "beta tester."

**greenegt** · 11-04-2009, 09:40 AM

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Glad to hear that a second patch is coming. Despite the issues, I'm having a great time with the game. If they fix the scoring/OT bug, the CPU players shooting from half-court bug, and iron out the kinks with the DNA rosters, I'll be good to go until Live 11.

**jonesha2000** · 11-04-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Pared

Please stop posts like this. OS is not your personal forum to gripe on. Show some restraint in any video game you buy from now on if you don't want things "broken" or you feel you are a "beta tester."

To be honest that guy's post was really not bad and he told the truth. He didnt spam the board or use any foul language. I understand the developers dont want to be bashed but at the same time the consumer should be allowed to express civilized frustration. I feel his frustration 100%. You go out and pay $60 for a game and after a while it becomes a frisbee while you wait on a patch. Live was my fill in while I waited on the Madden patch and now both are on the shelf. As a consumer you get frustrated and I think thats all the guy was expressing. As far as the EA guys, much respect for coming back and giving the update.

**UMDDogs** · 11-04-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by jonesha2000

To be honest that guy's post was really not bad and he told the truth. He didnt spam the board or use any foul language. I understand the developers dont want to be bashed but at the same time the consumer should be allowed to express civilized frustration. I feel his frustration 100%. You go out and pay $60 for a game and after a while it becomes a frisbee while you wait on a patch. Live was my fill in while I waited on the Madden patch and now both are on the shelf. As a consumer you get frustrated and I think thats all the guy was expressing. As far as the EA guys, much respect for coming back and giving the update.

Agreed, EA is releasing these games with these flaws. They have to know about it, if they don't, they are doing something wrong. They release them to get the most money out of the product and can always fall back on the patches. This isn't a terrible thing, fortunately they have the ability to send out patches which is great but the game should be fairly error free when it is sent out and the patch should be used for minor changes and updates, not for extended development time after it has been purchased by users who want a good game.

All that being said Live is on the right track and I feel they have a good base to build on. If they get 10 patched up it will be a great game and 11 should be fantastic.

**Pared** · 11-04-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by jonesha2000

To be honest that guy's post was really not bad and he told the truth. He didnt spam the board or use any foul language. I understand the developers dont want to be bashed but at the same time the consumer should be allowed to express civilized frustration. I feel his frustration 100%. You go out and pay $60 for a game and after a while it becomes a frisbee while you wait on a patch. Live was my fill in while I waited on the Madden patch and now both are on the shelf. As a consumer you get frustrated and I think thats all the guy was expressing. As far as the EA guys, much respect for coming back and giving the update.

That's fine and all, but this isn't the thread to do it.

Don't like the way the game industry is headed? There's the Entertainment and Tech. forum, and the Console forum.

But for those that just want the updated information, they shouldn't have to rife through personal rants to read up on what others think of this update. In fact, we leave the threads open so others can get clarification on something if they would like. But to tell them to stop releasing broken games and that you're not beta testers? Has nothing to do with this thread and only derail the flow of conversation.

**michaeljordanjr** · 11-04-2009, 12:18 PM

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Like Marcus said, sports debs have a tight cycle to get a finished product out. That's why most sports games don't live up to expecations. Sports are played yearly so naturally you need th simulationd to coincide.

however, infastructure needs to change with dev teams cycling in and out to produce more refined and complete products. you can't hand it to one team only.

the problem is that we are forced to wait to buy the products until they are patched. which leads to less revenue for the companies overall. good QA and more teams working on the games means better for us.

until then we'll slowly get results but it won't be much better for the upcoming seasons

**TreyIM2** · 11-04-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by stephensonmc

We're always listening.

Guys,

It would be awesome, if we aren't on the boards for a bit, to not rush to judgment and call for our heads at every sudden mishap or issue that comes along. There are reasons we aren't here (some personal, some work related). The personal I won't get into, but the work related ones are simple:

1.) We are working on NBA LIVE 11 and since we are on a yearly cycle, we need to do things quickly. This doesn't mean that we aren't constantly monitoring what's going on for 10, but it's the reality of this sports industry.

2.) While we're working on '11, we're also trying to find the reasons why things are going on with '10. We have a daily update system that is tying into another system (Synergy) on a daily basis. This is new tech everytime we add stuff (which will always be the case). Things will go wrong, it's software and it's impossible to have a test case as big as all of you. Trust me, when we get the issues resolved, they should be resolved for good.

Good looks, Marcus. It's a shame that no matter how many times or how many different ways it's told, the child minded just don't get it and still come back with a rant of some sort. And even those who say they "understand" always throw in the "but" so they can continue griping which has been done even after your post.

At any rate, I truly understand what you guys are up against, being a man who works in IT and "Corporate America". The nature of software is not a simple one by any means nor is the nature of "Corporate America". I get it and that's why appreciate the work that devs of all types provide. I salute u, Mr. Stephenson, and I wish you guys well. I know you're only human but I hope the forum/blog clownage can roll of your backs because I know it bugs the hell out of me. Peace.

**randombrother** · 11-04-2009, 02:30 PM

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See threads like this is the reason why I do not blame devs for ignoring some posts and not being as available to the forums as everyone likes. You got people wanting the patch to come tomorrow and be perfect at the same time. Come on, get real. If people want the patch right away then expect things to be messed up. If you want the patch to be the patch from God then expect it to take time. People act like there is a patch store where companies can just go pick up a patch at any time. I want the next patch to be on point and if that means waiting a while then so be it. Do not rush something out just to quiet the forums. Chasing the forums will only result in failures. Put it out when it is ready and not a minute sooner. A simple, we know the problems guys and we are working on it, is good enough. Then deliver when you are confident it is ready to roll.

**jrose57** · 11-04-2009, 02:34 PM

Re: PS3 Update Status as well as the Second Update forthcoming

Originally posted by NdaZone3

Stop releasing broken incomplete games and there will be way less problems and more understanding. We are not beta testers. Beta testers get the game early and free.

These patches and waitng are getting rediculous from every EA game. You cant buy a game now that you can expect to play without waiting months or a half of year waiting for patches and another patch to fix what the patch before it added or broke.

You still cant play Madden and that Patch 2 has been going on for months diffrent game but you get the point. NBA Live patch 1 came out at a decent time for 360 but it made the game worse and now we got to wait for patch 2. I have PS3 and am still waiting on patch 1 and then I know Im gonna have to wait another month or longer for patch 2 to fix patch 1.

This has to be a joke! All I wanted in a patch for Live 10 was a post up button and that was it.

I am acutally very very satisfied withe the game which is a good thing right? i also want that button only, nothing else!

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