*** Producers, this is vid glitch 3 pointers

[tosharetowin]

Re: *** Producers, this is vid glitch 3 pointers

The DNA is correct for all the players. We are looking at some other things with it.

The Theory is not the practice.
If Nelson,Mo,Nash,... have a contest shot % around 50 this is Theory(or in real life).NBA live is not the Theory.
DNA could help, growing up the perimeter pressure and decreasing the contest shot %.
But not for Three points players, for allaround players.

[Hulkules]

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I personally believe contestes shot % is not in the game. If it was it would level everything out and it would really feel like defense matters. Hope its fixed soon.

It doesnt recognise what is a clean look and what is not. You should be able to affect a shooter without having to jump or get a hand up to make them miss. If you stand close enough it should be enough to make them miss. Right now you have to time your jump at right time to contest and irl that is not the case. If I stood that close to someone they would either turn their back on me, reducing their chances of making the shot even more, or bring the ball up from the side which is pretty much called a force up shot. If he didnt do either I would strip him.

[ehh]

Re: *** Producers, this is vid glitch 3 pointers

I personally believe contestes shot % is not in the game. If it was it would level everything out and it would really feel like defense matters. Hope its fixed soon.

I could be imagining things but IMO it's more apparent on higher levels. The dev team always said Pro was for more casual users, maybe it's designed to give those guys who aren't good at getting open shots the chance to make a decent amount of J's.

Playing on Superstar it was the most noticeable, I don't think I've seen any unrealistic "hand in the face" shots made by the CPU. Obviously some go in, I mean this is the NBA, it's the best shooters in the world and they do make some shots with a hand in their face. They just shouldn't be shooting 50% with a hand up.

[bls]

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I could be imagining things but IMO it's more apparent on higher levels. The dev team always said Pro was for more casual users, maybe it's designed to give those guys who aren't good at getting open shots the chance to make a decent amount of J's.

Playing on Superstar it was the most noticeable, I don't think I've seen any unrealistic "hand in the face" shots made by the CPU. Obviously some go in, I mean this is the NBA, it's the best shooters in the world and they do make some shots with a hand in their face. They just shouldn't be shooting 50% with a hand up.

Speaking from online user vs user experiences myself.

[michaeljordanjr]

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online is the only way to judge this.

if you have guys exploiting in ways that should not be exploited then the game was not tested properly during development.

why did it take customers that learned hitches in releases and dribble moves that go through defense to find these exploits?

defense is completely unbalanced. it's presence is gimmicky. if I can't stay with a guy who's just running left to right and back then that's not sim basketball. NBA jam had better defense.

block timing is random, steals on command don't exist. shot releases matter more than rating/DNA for certain players.

/endrant to be continued

[ILLSmak]

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I agree that it doesn't matter on the contest. You have to double team or block or hope they release it wrong. You only need a bit of space... and I agree with those ratings but not the way they are incorporated.

Basically, I have asked for two things in online gaming (and not gotten them... looks like 2k has it this year, sort of.) One would be play by play fatigue and the other would be the amount of dribbling done by a player affecting his performance. This means that the more you dribble around, the less efficient you will be... lower dribble rating, lower pass rating, lower dunk rating, lower shot rating.

This is the first step.

Also, it should be easier to steal the ball from someone who does the step back move. You can rush them, sure, but when you know they are going to do a move and when they are going to do it, it's important to have a counter that is an easy as the move itself. You should be able to just steal it a good percentage of the time. That's why people don't play that style in real life. If not, then even if it's a 'low percentage' shot you have the ability to do the same move every time and have it completely in the offense's control. I don't agree with that.

Oh, and a few of the times I actually got up and blocked those shots... there is a good chance of them calling the after the block foul... lame.

Edit: MJJ, I can stay right in front of someone, but it's always been 'don't jump' to me... maybe I need to retrain myself, but I'm scared of the foul and I know if I jump and I don't get the block it's going in. So, it's not the issue of defense but the issue of someone making a shot with me RIGHT in front of them (sometimes with two people.)

Also... PLEASE MAKE IT SO THOSE FADING SHOTS RARELY GO IN. People make those at the worst times. You are finally getting into someone's head and they screw up and shoot a fading shot... swish. It's like DAMN IT.

-Smak

[JWiLL02]

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The game simply doesn't recognize when an off the dribble shot is contested. PERIOD. The problem is essentially explained in the DNA breakdown.

No dribble unguarded
No dribble guarded
Off the dribble

There's seperate DNA %s for set shots, but only 1 for off the dribble shots. You'll never have someone 3pt cheese you shooting set 3s as long as you contest them, they ALWAYS shoot them off the dribble.

It doesn't matter how well you play defense, double or triple team, every off the dribble shot is considered an open off the dribble shot by the DNA.

The DNA needs to have seperate %s for off the dribble guarded and unguarded. Since I don't think this is possible to implement this year even if Synergy tracks it, the developers just need to make it so every contested shot off the dribble has say half the chance of the original off the dribble %. Just make it a league wide thing no matter who the player is.

eg. Jameer Nelson is currently 48% off the dribble and 43% for 3, so he's going to destroy you. If he's contested off the dribble drop that % down to 24.

People can still try to abuse it with some success, but they won't be able to win games off the strength of what's SUPPOSED to be the lowest % shot in basketball.

The main focus of the developers for the 2nd patch should be:

a) Having the game recognize when a shot off the dribble is contested
b) Cutting the original off the dribble % in half when it is.

Online will be great if this happens.

[helpplease]

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off the dribble is not the worst part of the problem. the problem is that the cheezers are running in circles till they get some space and then shooting "uncontested" shots so they shoot the wide open percentage for all of their three pointers which is ****ing ridiculous.

[michaeljordanjr]

Re: *** Producers, this is vid glitch 3 pointers

We've nailed what needs to be done, now some confirmation that it will from the devs is all thats needed to calm us down

[tosharetowin]

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The Fatigue dont take any effect in shot %.
The actions : to dribble , to run , "" to shot "", to attempt a block,rebound,"steal" ,... dont make the fatigue effet that it would be the normal effect.

NO MORE 3PTS SHOW, Thanks EAsports.

"" Now, the game is a 3pts contest. ""

If you want to play at low post, you can to loose the ball when you try to pass the ball to the Big man.
If you are alone under basket, sometimes (more than 3pts step back attempts) you miss the shot, jjj, ridiculous.

[oOausarOo]

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This along with a couple other things were game breakers for me. That's why I went back to 2k. It's pretty much unplayable online.


They came really close to having great 1v1 gameplay in Live 10. If they can tie up these loose ends for Live 11 and more animations, especially signature ones then it can reach its potential.