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  • Court_vision
    Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 8290

    #1

    Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

    Try and keep this mature fellas.

    These comments are brutal...but they deserve discussion.

    With some of the creative decisions over at EA, it just made it difficult to stay there. They just want to make a different game than I had a vision for. So I reached out to (2K's senior vice president of sports development) Greg Thomas and he was gracious enough to have me back.


    "I don't want to get too much into specifics for '2K11,' but the focus over here has always been to make the best basketball sim," said Wang. "That's something that the guys over at EA, they don't always have that same focus. They want to make a different kind of game this year."



    Thomas agrees: "Over at EA, you have so many levels of management, and you have somebody up there looking at unit sales and how 2K is kicking their asses, so now they want to change things in a great way because they can't afford to sell this many units through a three-year plan or a five-year plan. Here, we're always trying to do the same thing, we're always trying to make the best basketball simulation we can.
    "I think EA is going through an identity crisis with their basketball sim."


    http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames...ory?id=4877673
  • jlbrown143
    Rookie
    • Sep 2006
    • 161

    #2
    Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

    Would love to hear EA's response to this!!! wow...really!!!

    he callin yall out big time......what's your response to these allegations?...we dyin to know?
    Jambro

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    • Court_vision
      Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 8290

      #3
      Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

      Can someone verify the link?

      Those comments are so scathing I am half inclined to think they are made up.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #4
        Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

        for the record im locking this thread if you decide to turn this into a bash fest

        So remember the TOS

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        • BlueNGold
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2009
          • 21817

          #5
          Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

          Well it looks like they dug themselves into too deep of a hole to get out of. What I mean by that is with the bomb jobs that were Live 06-09, they were just too much to allow EA to fully map out the plan they had to rebuild the game into an actual basketball sim.

          1 year was definitely not enough time to make the game into what it should be and the dev team should have been given more than just this year but obviously with the disasters the previous next gen Live's were, EA needed the game to make money for them instantly, which was just unrealistic to expect.

          So all in all it's pretty disappointing and it looks like we won't be getting the Live 11 we all want.
          Originally posted by bradtxmale
          I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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          • Court_vision
            Banned
            • Oct 2002
            • 8290

            #6
            Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

            Originally posted by jlbrown143
            Would love to hear EA's response to this!!! wow...really!!!

            he callin yall out big time......what's your response to these allegations?...we dyin to know?

            He's basically just said in public what everyone has been saying for ages. Stunning to hear a producer say it in the press though. He's just completely dumped on them. Any cred they've built up just got massively wiped out.

            Crazy stuff.

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #7
              Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

              Originally posted by Court_vision
              Can someone verify the link?

              Those comments are so scathing I am half inclined to think they are made up.
              Jon Robinson works for them

              I just signed in on that page on the top right log in section

              looks real to me, the page at least, not sure about the comments

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              • BearClaw
                Pro
                • Jan 2010
                • 671

                #8
                Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

                I think I'll be buying 2K11 come October.

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                • BlueNGold
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 21817

                  #9
                  Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

                  Originally posted by 23
                  Jon Robinson works for them

                  I just signed in on that page on the top right log in section

                  looks real to me
                  Same. It's real.
                  Originally posted by bradtxmale
                  I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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                  • Shakedowncapo
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 4031

                    #10
                    Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

                    Guys, its Jon Robinson...He's been around for AGES!

                    Of course this is legit.

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                    • Court_vision
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 8290

                      #11
                      Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

                      Originally posted by 23
                      for the record im locking this thread if you decide to turn this into a bash fest

                      So remember the TOS

                      Yeah, please keep this one mature fellas as it's a very, very valid topic area to discuss.

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                      • dickey1331
                        Everyday is Faceurary!
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 14285

                        #12
                        Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

                        Well...I hope Live doesnt abandon the sim aspect as Live 10 was alot better than 09 but this doesnt look good at all.
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                        • Kully
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 3178

                          #13
                          Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

                          That is some scathing criticism. The implications are huge and reaffirms what a lot of people here have been saying.

                          I don't post here much, however I read here a lot and you can see some of the things they are saying take affect in their other games.

                          We all know how much people take Mike at his word (as seen when he criticized 2K's engine last year). If we see a drastic change in Live, then he will be proven right.

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                          • Kully
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3178

                            #14
                            Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

                            That being said, I still have to wait to see what Live 11 has to offer. I'm not going to drown them before the boat arrives, so to speak. Live can come out and be the greatest sim ever, barring the suits messing around with it too much.

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                            • SageInfinite
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 11896

                              #15
                              Re: Beluba : EA just wanted to make a different game than I had a vision for...

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