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  • Blue_Monkey
    MVP
    • Oct 2002
    • 1107

    #1

    CPU shooting tendencies?

    How fast does the CPU play and take shots? I'll only play 12 minute quarters and it doesn't work if the CPU is either fast breaking or taking quick shots all the time.

    Can you slow them down with good defense? What about sliders on this? Will the CPU take every shot with anyone when even remotely open (meaning a person is practically standing right in front of them)?

    Not sure if this is allowed but how's 2k10 in this? I saw some people complaining (?) about the CPU's slow play in that game which gave me hope but that was people who play 7 min quarters and what's slow for them isn't slow for me.
  • wepr3
    Pro
    • Feb 2005
    • 584

    #2
    Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

    Originally posted by Blue_Monkey
    How fast does the CPU play and take shots? I'll only play 12 minute quarters and it doesn't work if the CPU is either fast breaking or taking quick shots all the time.

    Can you slow them down with good defense? What about sliders on this? Will the CPU take every shot with anyone when even remotely open (meaning a person is practically standing right in front of them)?

    Not sure if this is allowed but how's 2k10 in this? I saw some people complaining (?) about the CPU's slow play in that game which gave me hope but that was people who play 7 min quarters and what's slow for them isn't slow for me.
    The reason I sold Live was because of the CPU AI. On 90% of the CPU's possessions, there will be no more than 2 passes made. And, I saw a lot of bad shots, ie, I double-covered someone, and the CPU would not kick it out to the open man.

    IMO, it does not matter whether a team is programmed to play fast or slow, they will not pass the ball around. Some teams shoot very quickly, some dribble for 10 seconds, then shoot. Either way, ball movement is nil.

    When I previously talked about this, someone said to try not guarding the ballhandler coming up the court so tight to give them room to run the offense. However, I just didn't see that much of a difference.

    It's a shame because Live has come a long way, and it really is fun to play, especially against other humans. But the CPU just drove me up a wall.

    Hope you get it worked out, there is a lot to enjoy.
    Magic and Noles,Knights that are gold, these are a few of my favorite things...

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    • Blue_Monkey
      MVP
      • Oct 2002
      • 1107

      #3
      Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

      Originally posted by wepr3
      Hope you get it worked out, there is a lot to enjoy.
      I probably won't ever even play the game. I'm looking for info to choose between live and 2k10. What you said above was pretty brutal and sounds like I'd instantly be up the wall too.

      I've checked tube videos of live 10 and that seemed exactly like what you said but you can't be sure with those cause you don't know the skill level, sliders or how the person is playing.

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      • wepr3
        Pro
        • Feb 2005
        • 584

        #4
        Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

        I'm not sure if you can do it or not, but try making the CPU play the CPU in the demo. That'll give you a rough idea of what it's like.
        Magic and Noles,Knights that are gold, these are a few of my favorite things...

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        • CX1329
          MVP
          • Jan 2005
          • 1304

          #5
          Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

          What was said above used to hold true for me, but I'm not seeing any of that anymore. Maybe it's because of the DNA updates, but now the CPU will actually pass the ball around, albeit a bit too much, to be honest. Now shooters won't take shots even if you sag off.

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          • wepr3
            Pro
            • Feb 2005
            • 584

            #6
            Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

            Originally posted by CX1329
            What was said above used to hold true for me, but I'm not seeing any of that anymore. Maybe it's because of the DNA updates, but now the CPU will actually pass the ball around, albeit a bit too much, to be honest. Now shooters won't take shots even if you sag off.
            When did you notice a change? What level do you play on? I think I had the game through the end of January, so I know I had all the patches (well, I think I did).
            Magic and Noles,Knights that are gold, these are a few of my favorite things...

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            • CX1329
              MVP
              • Jan 2005
              • 1304

              #7
              Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

              I just know that before January, the CPU would routinely attempt well over 100 shots a game, but that hasn't happened ever since early February, when I started playing the game again. I think learning how to defend against quickstrike moves and holding RB on defense also helped stop the incessant fastbreak shots.

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              • wepr3
                Pro
                • Feb 2005
                • 584

                #8
                Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                Originally posted by CX1329
                I just know that before January, the CPU would routinely attempt well over 100 shots a game, but that hasn't happened ever since early February, when I started playing the game again. I think learning how to defend against quickstrike moves and holding RB on defense also helped stop the incessant fastbreak shots.
                I definitely agree with you on the fast breaks, and defense does play a part. My problem was with your average possession when the PG walks/jogs up the court, makes 1 pass, and that player will 7/10 times take the shot. If there happens to be 1 more pass, then that receiving player will 9/10 times take the shot no matter what.
                Last edited by wepr3; 02-09-2010, 04:26 PM. Reason: addition
                Magic and Noles,Knights that are gold, these are a few of my favorite things...

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                • travis72
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1491

                  #9
                  Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                  Originally posted by Blue_Monkey
                  How fast does the CPU play and take shots? I'll only play 12 minute quarters and it doesn't work if the CPU is either fast breaking or taking quick shots all the time.

                  Can you slow them down with good defense? What about sliders on this? Will the CPU take every shot with anyone when even remotely open (meaning a person is practically standing right in front of them)?

                  Not sure if this is allowed but how's 2k10 in this? I saw some people complaining (?) about the CPU's slow play in that game which gave me hope but that was people who play 7 min quarters and what's slow for them isn't slow for me.
                  It has improved with the updates plus if your into editing the global edits can make the gameplay really enjoyable. I did some editing and have been having a blast in dynasty mode. Sim stats can be a problem as well as big men scoring averages like Dwight Howard. Bosh scores well in the game but a guy like Howard who really isnt that good unless he is 5ft from the basket will not avg as many points as real life.

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                  • Blue_Monkey
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 1107

                    #10
                    Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                    Still not sure if this is allowed but what about 2k10 in this regard? (I'd hate to make the same exact thread into that forum...)

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                    • Blue_Monkey
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 1107

                      #11
                      Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                      Originally posted by travis72
                      It has improved with the updates plus if your into editing the global edits can make the gameplay really enjoyable. I did some editing and have been having a blast in dynasty mode.
                      I am into editing. What kind of edits did you do?

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                      • wepr3
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 584

                        #12
                        Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                        Originally posted by Blue_Monkey
                        Still not sure if this is allowed but what about 2k10 in this regard? (I'd hate to make the same exact thread into that forum...)
                        The CPU does pass the ball around more. IMO, they take better shots, and the teams play closer to their real life counterparts than they do in Live.

                        I can't speak to the stats, because that has never been as important to me.
                        Magic and Noles,Knights that are gold, these are a few of my favorite things...

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                        • travis72
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1491

                          #13
                          Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                          Originally posted by Blue_Monkey
                          I am into editing. What kind of edits did you do?
                          I have some edits posted in the roster section. I have actually change some things in my dynasty since those. Tweaking superstars is a must for dynasty mode. I am still playing around trying to get bigs better. Guys like Bosh wiill avg 18 plus but Howard is lucky to get more than 13 out of.

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                          • BlackBerry
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 351

                            #14
                            Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                            It was better out of the box, but honestly the computer just takes quick shots and there are no individual or team tendencies.

                            One pass, shot. Computer brings the ball up, shot.

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                            • carnalnirvana
                              Pro
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1981

                              #15
                              Re: CPU shooting tendencies?

                              it can be fixed but it takes some effort and editing.....

                              i am working on a vid that shows fastbreaks, transition buckets and the comp playing aggressive taking shots and playing smarter and its all possible
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