NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

[P-Dub]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Exclusive Debut Vision Developer Diary

Main thing I'm thinking of is the free style passing. That was TOO good to have in one year and leave it out the next.

It's still in.

[Jano]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Exclusive Debut Vision Developer Diary

Nice!! thats great to hear P-dub I was worried they were going to take away the passing controls from last year.

It was one of my favorite features in last year's game, only problem was how tough it was to defend a player that used it..

[robinsnestkc]

Totally hear you regarding everyone wanting the game to be good. That's what EVERYONE wants the game to be. What you guys are seeing is a game that is VERY early in development. This is the earliest that we have EVER shown gameplay footage of an NBA game. The video is a representation of what vision the development team has for the game. There is A LOT of stuff that has yet to be implemented into the game and there are a lot of issue that have to be fixed but the important thing for you guys to know is that the development team is working hard to deliver a genuine NBA game.

With the video you all saw there are no signature animations implemented and everyone has the same attributes. No one has been personalized in the game yet which is why you are seeing guys like Brandon Jennings shooting with his right hand and performing 360 dunks (although when Jennings was in high school the man was a MEAN dunker). I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why would you show Brandon Jennings shooting when you can show someone else?" There is a reason for it but unfortunately I can't go into that (legal reasons).

There is a lot of time for the game to shape up and we will be showing you guys more of the game in the months ahead. There is a lot of time left guys and you will see what we have to show you for this year's game that differentiates itself from our past offerings.

"There is A LOT of stuff that has yet to be implemented into the game and there are a lot of issue that have to be fixed but the important thing for you guys to know is that the development team is working hard to deliver a genuine NBA game."

Does that mean we will have signature shots, dribbles, animations, etc.... Not just for the stars but for everyone. Signature packages is all I want in this life.

[Eman5805]

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I don't understand the whole "shots are based on luck" thing.

They make it sound like it's possible to hit 100% of your shots if you're skilled enough. Including that ridiculous half court shot statement.

Which isn't humanly possible. You can do everything right, have perfect form, the right touch, and it'll still rim out, thanks to some minute, fractional, microscopic difference from the previous shot which was nothing but net you were completely unaware of. There's a measure of luck involved in any sport.

To me, luck is just a skill you can't control.

There's still going to be some built in, behind the scenes system that says if I shoot a certain way with Kevin Durant the shot'll go in, but if I do the same with Yao Ming, it'll be an airball.

[jordankobewade7]

They really need to fix the shooting animations themselves,it feels like the perfect release for most ppls shot is when they're on they way down,instead of at the peak of the jump...also.they really need to add more animations in all areas...and please give us some real features that we want...like a FULL FEATURED DEEP DYNASTY MODE,complete with recognition for accomplishments like awards and championships,full stat tracking,dleague,summer league,great all star weekend experience like the one brought out in 2005 with carmelo on the cover,one of my favs...just real features for us hardcore fans that want a true simulation without feeling one bit of being cheated or bs moments...they've got some great ideas but its just worthless iif they don't build around and up from this solid foundation...and with all the bs from recent yrs (cept last yr kinda),the pressure is on to deliver this yr.and they put it on themselves.I don't wana wait another yr for a vision to play out that doesn't even live up the the hype,let alone the expectations

[Live Boii]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

CONTROL IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE FOR BASKETBALL GAMES!!!

NUFF SAID!

[taxinem]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

CONTROL IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE FOR BASKETBALL GAMES!!!

NUFF SAID!

WHOA!!

[Drocks]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

I don't understand the whole "shots are based on luck" thing.

They make it sound like it's possible to hit 100% of your shots if you're skilled enough. Including that ridiculous half court shot statement.

Which isn't humanly possible. You can do everything right, have perfect form, the right touch, and it'll still rim out, thanks to some minute, fractional, microscopic difference from the previous shot which was nothing but net you were completely unaware of. There's a measure of luck involved in any sport.

Well, if you do EVERYTHING right, you're shot will go in, no question. That's just pure physics at work. Like you said though, real minute differences can change everything. The question is, how difficult will it be to get EVERYTHING right when taking a shot in Elite 11? It should be near impossible to do on a consistent basis. If they tweak it right, I don't think it should be of concern. If they don't though....look out for some 15 for 16 nights from downtown. I have a feeling they will manage to find a nice medium in that regard. Plus, this doesn't take into account defensive pressure. There are many shooters where if they are left alone, they will burn you for a 90% shooting game, but with some defense, they drop to 45-50%. I think though, if you are wide open, and you are set, and you pull that stick perfectly up and you time it right, you should hit the shot 99% of the time, really.

[Starlin4Prez]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

Yeah but when people are wide open in real life they don't hit the shot 99% of the time, and I wouldn't expect that in this game either.

[Closure]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

always the same things

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

Yeah but when people are wide open in real life they don't hit the shot 99% of the time, and I wouldn't expect that in this game either.

The reason why in real life they don't hit the shot wide open is because something went wrong with their mechanics, either they shot too long, too short, far left/right, either way its their fault.

Just like in elite, if you miss a wide open shot its your own fault, either you pushed the stick a little left or right, or held it to long/short. That's why it becomes a skill to get the same movement every time, just like real players get the same movement on their shot. Muscle Memory.

[mrclutch]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

The reason why in real life they don't hit the shot wide open is because something went wrong with their mechanics, either they shot too long, too short, far left/right, either way its their fault.

Just like in elite, if you miss a wide open shot its your own fault, either you pushed the stick a little left or right, or held it to long/short. That's why it becomes a skill to get the same movement every time, just like real players get the same movement on their shot. Muscle Memory.

So are you really arguing the point that your open shots in the game should go in 100% of the time if you move a little stick perfectly?

If so let's get real. No real player can hit 100% of their open shot so neither should we.

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

So are you really arguing the point that your open shots in the game should go in 100% of the time if you move a little stick perfectly?

If so let's get real. No real player can hit 100% of their open shot so neither should we.

No person can move the stick the same way 100% of the time, I'm just arguing that the shooting mechanic reflects the motions that happen in real life.

If your feeling it you might be able to hit 8-8 with Ray Allen because your in a groove and you go that muscle memory working, but then again you could go 0-14 the next game.

[Pared]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

So are you really arguing the point that your open shots in the game should go in 100% of the time if you move a little stick perfectly?

If so let's get real. No real player can hit 100% of their open shot so neither should we.

If they do it right, you won't be able to either.

It actually simulates jump shooting very, very well.

Instead of things being timing based, you are pushing the stick up and a certain degree range will be a successful "aim" out of the say, 120 degrees they are using for shooting. Add to that timing, defensive presence...

You get the picture. None of you will fully understand it until you try it.

[Dalsanto0026]

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No person can move the stick the same way 100% of the time, I'm just arguing that the shooting mechanic reflects the motions that happen in real life.

If your feeling it you might be able to hit 8-8 with Ray Allen because your in a groove and you go that muscle memory working, but then again you could go 0-14 the next game.

One could argue that it's a lot easier to get your timing/mechanics right with a controller than it is with a real basketball in your hands and a 10" high ring to shoot at.

Player ratings need to be factored in, among other things, otherwise we could be dropping 3's with players like Joel Anthony because they're open and your movement with the stick was spot on.