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  • Dalsanto0026
    Banned
    • Aug 2007
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    #196
    Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

    Originally posted by Pared
    If they do it right, you won't be able to either.

    It actually simulates jump shooting very, very well.

    Instead of things being timing based, you are pushing the stick up and a certain degree range will be a successful "aim" out of the say, 120 degrees they are using for shooting. Add to that timing, defensive presence...

    You get the picture. None of you will fully understand it until you try it.
    "If they do it right" that's a big IF. Afterall we're talking about EA here.

    I'm certainly intrigued by this new shooting mechanic, and if you're impressed by it Pared then that's a promising sign.

    I wonder how this will tie in with signature jumpshots? I hope every player doesn't have the same generic jumpshot. EA wouldn't be that dumb would they?

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #197
      Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

      I don't think it's a big if from what I saw. What they already had implemented worked well, but alas I didn't scrutinize every single player's values PLUS there was a visible bar on screen. You won't have this while playing.

      Even with the visual aid, it was hard to line things up and get the placement and release accurate for a jumpshot to go in with 100% consistency, especially outside the 3 point range.

      I have an idea how they will tie it in for signature jumpshots, but I wasn't told anything as to how they will do it. I also didn't ask, honestly. It seems like timing would just be based upon release, with the "sweet spot" being during a different time for everyone else.

      I can even see guys saying the shooting is "too hard" if they don't give the user a big enough window.

      They can certainly "go wrong" but I don't see them doing it. And I've shared that sentiment of "they'll find a way to mess it up in the past." I think with the guys behind it, they will get it just right.
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      • ParisB
        MVP
        • Jan 2010
        • 1699

        #198
        Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

        Originally posted by Pared
        If they do it right, you won't be able to either.

        It actually simulates jump shooting very, very well.

        Instead of things being timing based, you are pushing the stick up and a certain degree range will be a successful "aim" out of the say, 120 degrees they are using for shooting. Add to that timing, defensive presence...

        You get the picture. None of you will fully understand it until you try it.
        Nice

        Can you elaborate what you mean with Defensive Presence? Does the shot difficulty increase if there's a Battier guarding you as opposed to a Luke Walton? Does it also change if you have a hand in the face or not? Or is it strictly distance between you and a defender that matters?

        Just curious....

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        • Dalsanto0026
          Banned
          • Aug 2007
          • 729

          #199
          Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

          That sounds promising Pared. I look forward to more coverage of this shooting mechanic.

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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #200
            Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

            Originally posted by ParisB
            Nice

            Can you elaborate what you mean with Defensive Presence? Does the shot difficulty increase if there's a Battier guarding you as opposed to a Luke Walton? Does it also change if you have a hand in the face or not? Or is it strictly distance between you and a defender that matters?

            Just curious....
            Not sure how it will work with individual players but your shot success window closes as you are defended more closely.
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            • Da_Czar
              NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
              • Jul 2002
              • 5408

              #201
              Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

              Originally posted by Pared

              I can even see guys saying the shooting is "too hard" if they don't give the user a big enough window.
              This is why I hope there is some sort of slider or something to adjust this range... I can see it going multiple ways. Hardcore guys loving the default and all the casuals being left on the outside or the other way around. I would think that is a tricky thing to find a good balance. Cause if its too easy all hell will break loose...
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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #202
                Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

                I completely agree. But they are well aware of that so it's just wait and see at this point...
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                • jlbrown143
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                  • Sep 2006
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                  #203
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: Vision Developer Diary

                  well for what its worth of my two cents...I really hope that with the limited videos that we do get shown to us this year, the developers will atleast this time around show "us" (their customer base) the difference with this years product as opposed to last years product !! because to me that will help me make up my mind as to whether I should even waste my time even being interested in this years game....the time is gone of "me" wasting my hard earned money on empty promises any more.......

                  Real Talk...leave no room for doubting or assumptions by just showing us more than just telling us! because for the most part all I am reading in these blogs is alot of back and forth about what people think will be or not be in this years game, and it would really be nice this year if we could possibly get blogs that have real facts and information and not just a bunch of pages with mis- information....
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