Too late for Elite???

[grush5]

i am a great live fan i have always loved and always wished for it to be great and back where it was... i bought nba live 10, played and was satisfied... untill it started to b the same old animations and problems everytime, unfortunatley live is just a game where all the players act and move exactly the same except that they have different stats. I finally played 2k10 yesterday and it was great many of the players moved and acted like themselves instead of havin all the same moves and crossovers, the way i seen my friend use deron williams drive to the whole on me looked so realistic i couldnt complain when he was blowing me out the way the jerseys move wit the player and the super smooth and slickness of the sprites where unbelievable... im sorry live/elite and the fans but its impossible for live/elite to come back now the only thing live has over 2k is reponsiveness and control(2ks graphics are way superior) not saying live/elite sucks its just that 2k is waay too far now to take the crown, live either needs a better team a bigger team or a miracle cuz they seem like theyve spent too much time on trail and error while 2k just kept building live has been constantly changing and removing systems and mechanics making it a new game every year except the past 2/3 years while 2k kept building.

[taxinem]

Re: Too late for Elite???

honestly..... itz hard for me to disagree wit that! i tried 2k for the first time this year and i must say, i was thoroughly impressed! well at least with the My Player, and the many many animations!! but the 1on1 gameplay had its flaws, same as Live, jus not as many as Live!! i jus hope EA knows that SIGNATURE SHOTS & MOVES ARE MANDATORY! without them.... they will always fall second fiddle to 2k!!! Period.

[taxinem]

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EA has to understand.... we are not goin to settle for jus Go-To Moves this year, we want the whole package!!!! literally....

[Live Boii]

Re: Too late for Elite???

. 2k faces are horrid. they look like night of the living dead. kobe was on the cover and even said they got his jumpshot wrong. graphics is always debatable so no comment on that. but gameplay?

man video games is about taking control of characters or sports teams you like and doing it your way.

2k had so many canned animations and lack of control with iso motion that id hardly call that gameplay. hugging refs? smh. live 10 out did 2k10 gameplay wise but there werent as big a variety of animations as 2k10.

this is understandable because 2k has had a solid base to build on since 2k7. so they just add a little here and there and put more flare. where as up until live 10, live has no solid base as they were always trying to rebuild.

if the touches go right in elite 11 then real time physics and that level of control will change the game.

Control is the wave of the futre for basketball video games. get with it or get lost.

p.s 2k has killed iso motion and stopping 2 man animations(following live/elite)!! just to prove a point.

[Live_4real]

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As I said before, I anticipate that EA is on a 2 year project, to regain the crown of best B-ball sim game

This year will be up-grading the gameplay, with even more ball handling control, and shooting, we will have total control of what our player do, the ball will probably be lose everytime, and not stuck to the players, resuming, devs will be 100% focus on gameplay, and when we purchase the game, we will probably have allot of tiny little adjustments and physical impossibilities/unrealistic movement, ect, that result of the extra control by the player, offense/defense will be called overpowered by some users, that will be easy and quick, to adjust in elite 12

graphics, they will probably be close to what we saw this year, and have major upgrade in elite 12, they will probably have ESPN presentation, to try and "hide" the fact that will be worst than 2k this year (graphically)

Yes 2k faces are bad, but the jerseys moving, the court reflections, and the crowd moving, were far better in 2k. But I understand EA´s will to upgrade to another level, what they always have been better, gameplay

Live and nba 2k, have the same relationship as PES, and FIFA(my opinion), one has always been better on gameplay, and the other has better graphics, and overall features, more of a total package

These 2 aspects, gameplay, Live/Elite as been and will probably continue to be better, graphics, 2k has been better and probably continue to be, with Elite closing the gap every year from now on, will be a plus for the series from now on, the question is....

What about features (game modes)???, specially the depth of it??? what 2k has is not just game modes, but they have deep and detailed game modes, that is why, the addiction of the "Hockey guy" is a plus for the franchise, if you ever play NHL, even if not every day, you will see deep and detailed game modes, and the ability to keep the game fresh

I only stated my opinion on Elite, because this part of the forum is about Elite, I am not a fanboy, I just believe in gameplay over graphics, but gameplay without depth is nothing, because 2 days after the purchase the game is dead

Do I believe Live/Elite will regain the crowd??? Yes
Next year??? Probably not (talking about total package)
Is it important for me that Elite gets better then 2k??? No, I love b-ball, not game companies

If you are an Elite/live fan, chances are you will be happy, major improvements will be done in this series, If you are a NBA fan you will probably be even more happier with the competition starting to heat up



PeAcE

[TUSS11]

Re: Too late for Elite???

You've played 2K for a day. Spend the same amount of time playing 2K as you have with Live and you'll see that both games have aspects that ruin the game.

[parkinson]

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I think 2K must change their gameplay engine. Too many points in the paint zone. Just unbelievable points pretty often.

I've played 2k BB game almost every series cause i am a big fan of BB gamer. This year, I was not impressive at all as i expected. Players don't defend the paint zone. Easy pass there. I traded it in quickly.

Yeah, 2K's animation is better and signature style gives you some wow moments. But that's it. It has very critical flaws for gameplay and made me think "is it real sim game, really?" I am fed up and gave up changing sliders every years to cover those flaws.

Just pick up 2k10 full quarter's gameplay movies randomly at youtube, you find almost every games are getting much more points in the paint, not by jumpers. As you know, Points by jumper is around 70% of total points per game in NBA.

I know Live 10 also has many issues so i am not trying to rationalize or defend it criticizing the other game. I am just explaining why i've chosen live 10 even though it has issues.

A few days ago I bought 2k10 again cause, as you guys know, it has good Dynasty, no, Association mode. but seldom play the game myself, just trade some players and simulate games along the schedule. That's 2k BB game for me for these several years.

[Pared]

Re: Too late for Elite???

Sorry, but if this were more focused on ELITE it would stay open.

Closed.