NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

[buddy_so_sik24]

Re: EA SPORTS NBA ELITE '11 LAUNCH PARTY DRAFT WEEK NYC

sorry but I'm pretty disappointed...I mean the animations look like ps2...I know it's user controlled...but the block animation? also the defensive animations...hm I have to say that I was more thrilled last year than this...I mean this control system seems to be good...but when the animations are still like '10 and the morph effect is still there...hm?! as I said I'm a little disappointed right now...

Right I understand where your coming from but....... look at all the perks. 1. it's not a finished product 2. it looks like wall and I believe dat was turner playing wit Wii!!!!! controllers 3. and last but not least yea its a new engine and it will have problems. but all you ppl commenting on this thread who is saying "ooo this game sucks" or "2K is still better" well I got something for you, Live or should I say Elite is making some good progress. For the past yrs I haven't purchased a EA basketball title maybe until Walmart had it for like $30 bucks. Because yea 2k had it on lock with Defense ond offense, but that game has it's flaws.....I MEAN IT REALLY DOES. Anytyme some1 can dunk from the 3pt line its a problem. But with all That said if you don't like the game dnt bash it and dont waste your time Buying it!

[ScoobySnax]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

Ill wait for the next gen version of Elite. Im sorry but the player models do not look real @ all to me and the animations look like live 10.

Suit yourself. Next-gen is further away than you think.

[buddy_so_sik24]

Re: EA SPORTS NBA ELITE '11 LAUNCH PARTY DRAFT WEEK NYC

sorry but I'm pretty disappointed...I mean the animations look like ps2...I know it's user controlled...but the block animation? also the defensive animations...hm I have to say that I was more thrilled last year than this...I mean this control system seems to be good...but when the animations are still like '10 and the morph effect is still there...hm?! as I said I'm a little disappointed right now...

LOL and i jus seen the whole vid it's Demarcus Cousins

[parkinson]

Re: EA SPORTS NBA ELITE '11 LAUNCH PARTY DRAFT WEEK NYC

Hey guys, I'm on my laptop at home and for some reason I can't get any youtube videos working so I haven't watched the full clip yet, but I will when I get to work (leaving soon).

However, looking at the screenshot that was posted has already given me some insight into what's going on.

The first thing I can say is that the skating you're seeing (I haven't een the video yet so I'm guessing here) is very likely due to missing animations. I can tell from the screenshot that durant is playing an animation to go one way while the underlying physics system is moving him in another. The hint for me is how straight his leg is and the awkward angle of the body.

I could be wrong having nt watched it yet, but I'm pretty sure about that one. If that is the cause I'm not worried at all, it's an easy fix once we have all the data.

The players going through each other is what's bothering me more. Haven't seen that happen in a build for a long time. I'm hoping once I see the vid I can repro it quickly and get a fix in there.

Fortunately we have a whole QA department whose job it is to find these problems, and now that they've seen the video it shouldn't be long before I have a bug written up for this.

I can tell you that if I can get someone to reproduce this at my desk in ANT it will be a relatively simple 2-3 hour fix. One of the benefits of the tools we're using this year.

So bear with me, it's a little embarassing being my feature and all, but rest assured there's more than enough time to sort some of these problems out.

One of the dangers of releasing videos of early builds is that you might turn people off the game, but the big benefit is that you get early feedback and reaction so you can make the game better and what people want.

I think the risk is worth the benefit, so all I ask is that you try the demo when it comes out and judge us based on that. But use this opportunity to point out the things that bother you so we can fix them (and the things you like so we make sure to keep them).

And real quick, to Da_Czar, great writeup. Very well informed and well written. Looking forward to hearing more from you in the future.

Many thanks, Reanimator. Impressive communication.

Sorry if i take your precious time. When or what situation make that two players "going through" even you are using chest, shoulder and hip for two objects' contact recognition point? Is there any point of time when it doesn't work properly?

And when I read your post about real time physics, i had a curious thing in my mind at that time. How about feet, legs, arms, head part? If you don't use them for the recognition point, is it means we could experience that kind of effect on those parts of two bodies in the future except chest, shoulder and hip?

I think your answer could give me some hints for understanding Elite 11's new engine. But again, if i bother you, please just ignore these.

[Da-Man]

Re: EA SPORTS NBA ELITE '11 LAUNCH PARTY DRAFT WEEK NYC

I need to see 5 on 5 gameplay before i make any judgement but in terms of what iv seen so far the gamespot video looked more promising.

[blingballa333]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

Nevermind

[shadio5]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

Suit yourself. Next-gen is further away than you think.

sure theres probly better engineering for next-gen, but WE dont know what these developers employ into their software. We dont know what type of early development structure layout these developers place into the game...hate when people say things like this but have no real subtance to back up their claims....

VC/2k sports fan

[Pared]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

Let me clear some things up:

That shot of Wall/Cousins was them playing NBA Jam. I don't know who put up this video, but they put it in there for NO reason at all. Hence, the Wii-motes in their hands. They actually had a blast playing; It was fun to be a part of.

Next, coupling of what Czar said and their being "too much control..." is something I've been struggling with since I first played the game. I've wanted repercussions and consequences to users that "ball" like this. I hope this can be the case with high difficulties, but it's a must. Otherwise, you're going to get THIS video as your result - scrubs who throw the stick around like mad men. The game looks TERRIBLE when you do this. Currently, there seems to be more of a consequence on defense. Also, the defender doesn't know what the heck he is doing. He never once used the sidesteps to stay in front of his man.

I wish you guys could see video of guys chaining things together. I've become accustomed enough that I could probably emulate many moves of NBA stars accurately, all because of my input and "skill."

As for that hookshot, that is user controlled. I like the user can DO IT, but I didn't like the fact that it resulted in a swish. I'm hoping that gets tuned prior to release because as it stood, the hooks had a high success %.

[rEAnimator]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

Let me clear some things up:

That shot of Wall/Cousins was them playing NBA Jam. I don't know who put up this video, but they put it in there for NO reason at all. Hence, the Wii-motes in their hands. They actually had a blast playing; It was fun to be a part of.

Next, coupling of what Czar said and their being "too much control..." is something I've been struggling with since I first played the game. I've wanted repercussions and consequences to users that "ball" like this. I hope this can be the case with high difficulties, but it's a must. Otherwise, you're going to get THIS video as your result - scrubs who throw the stick around like mad men. The game looks TERRIBLE when you do this. Currently, there seems to be more of a consequence on defense. Also, the defender doesn't know what the heck he is doing. He never once used the sidesteps to stay in front of his man.

I wish you guys could see video of guys chaining things together. I've become accustomed enough that I could probably emulate many moves of NBA stars accurately, all because of my input and "skill."

As for that hookshot, that is user controlled. I like the user can DO IT, but I didn't like the fact that it resulted in a swish. I'm hoping that gets tuned prior to release because as it stood, the hooks had a high success %.

Absolutely. Hooks, leaners and fadeaways will all have different sweet spots and levels of difficulty, but none of that has been tuned yet. So I wouldn't worry too much about that aspect.

I like the idea someone had of putting in more of a sky hook animation from farther away. I'll run that by some guys and see if we have the anims to do that.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

[23]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

Absolutely. Hooks, leaners and fadeaways will all have different sweet spots and levels of difficulty, but none of that has been tuned yet. So I wouldn't worry too much about that aspect.

I like the idea someone had of putting in more of a sky hook animation from farther away. I'll run that by some guys and see if we have the anims to do that.

Thanks for the feedback guys.

Thank You sir

[gmac0322]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

Let me clear some things up:

That shot of Wall/Cousins was them playing NBA Jam. I don't know who put up this video, but they put it in there for NO reason at all. Hence, the Wii-motes in their hands. They actually had a blast playing; It was fun to be a part of.

Thank you for clearing that up about the wii motes. I am not too worried. it is way too early to get too worried.

[RayDog253]

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Who ever was controlling Durant was nice wit it... Damn.....

edit: after watching again, it was a little erratic. And that euro step right into Durants chest was awkward. It should of had a collision that stopped Lebron from trying to finish the euro step.

[vols bravesfan]

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Well if the final product is gonna be like this then I'm going with the other game.

[NoTiCe_O]

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I like that video ..

And the fact that you have COMPLETE control. I mean I don't want a dumbed down game. If your not good, that's where practice comes in, when playing online you'll know your actually playing the best, not just some kid that can dunk every time.

Alot of things looked encouraging, I like the dribbling, and how Durant was gioing behind his back while walking backwards, and how after Lebron crossed Durant he put up that wet shot, while Durnat on the other hand threwup a Air ball before that .. that's all part of the skill ..

[thebesteva_22]

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Suit yourself. Next-gen is further away than you think.

I could care less if "Next - Gen is further away" I hope its better than what I have watched on the vid. Thats why I have the choice to buy the other basketball game that will come out on the same day as this one.