NBA Elite 11 Videos: 3 Quick Clips

[CS10029]

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Oh, got lost in the hypemantra...
But anyhow, game sure looks better than previous efforts. And nice to see that lesser skilled players can mess up. That´s usually a big problem in all of EAs sport games, that there´s not much difference between skilled and unskilled players, so nice to see.

Live use to own the NBA market, you don't think EA misses that revenue? They have confidence this year it seems, it's gonna be fun to watch it unfold.

[coolcras7]

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He took off from the half marks (really close to the restricted area) not the freethrow line......

dude stop being a homer, the dunk is unrealistic for Artest find me a video of him doing a dunk like that then we can talk, and there are other troubling aspects as well pierce sliding around jumping to contest a dunk when he was not even in the play any longer, and the fact that no other player besides Pierce and Wallace are aware of what is happening on the court.

[YoungG]

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is it just me or does anyone else think that elite will be one of the most downloaded demo's this fall?

[coolcras7]

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"ummm it's called a video game not real life"

it looks just fine

Lol. People don't tend to get that it is a VIDEO GAME.

They implemented the physics engine so that they can make a more true to life experience so don't come with it just a video game argument if something does not look right, we have a responsible to offer constructive criticism so that they continue to improve on the game, and just making excesses is not helping.

[coolcras7]

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is it just me or does anyone else think that elite will be one of the most downloaded demo's this fall?

well alot of people will be curious to see this new system in action, the developers have been saying that some aspects of the game are hard to put into words you will just have to play and find out, I know I will be downloading it and others.

[bullfan#1]

Ok i have 2 problems with the dunk on vid.... 1st: Man for that dunk to be soooo nice.... not 1 player on the laker bench showed any excitement.. Now everyone can say thats not in the game yet but ron ron was hype so why not the bench.... 2nd: Why in the hell was paul jumpin 5 feet away from ron ron and paul was jumping in the wrong direction. Not happy at all with these videos... Nba 2k11 will once again be best the game this year.... And the block shot hittin the backboard 2k had that last year

[Live_4real]

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Despite all the great things I saw I will be critical, because that is what we should be, constructive criticism...

I would say that even if Artest can do that (which I think he can), he would propably not do it in real life. People mentioned Joe Johnson, I will mention Luis Scola, he can dunk, but he doesn´t dunk, even on fast breaks, this is where in my opinion video games still are a long shot of the reality, the Dunk/layup relationship are not that accurate and not close to the real deal

This would only happen 1 or 2 times in his entire career, meaning it should be very very improbable to happen, and in video games I see guys doing nasty dunks in almost every game if I wanted to, when In real life they would probably adjust the shot and make a safe layup, or just miss the dunk because they did not have enough air under them

For me it is not that big of a problem, but when you go for the signature stuff next year, you have to be more accurate in the player rantings, because if we see Artest with the variety of moves he does in real life, but we see him doing this dunk in traffic, every game, it would not feel as real as it could

That Sheed contact was not enough to impact Artest, because he was late, so when they impacted in the Air, Artest was higher and had the momentum on his side, so sheed got burned, and that is probably what we want to see from this engine, the ability to go hard to the hoop, but depending on the player we have, and the one who goes for the block, and depending also on timing, we will have different ending results wich adds deep and more realistic gaming experience.

But for this experience to be close to perfection, all the ratings, and all the numbers that will determine the end result have to be looked in detail, and this is why, (probably) we saw Artest flying out of the building on that play

rEAnimator take it as a next year observation, this year it is not a problem, it is not too unrealistic and it is probably easy to adjust his ability to dunk or to get up in the air, because that guy was flying like LBJ, everything else, great work.

PeAcE

[rEAnimator]

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Yes.



Yes, you can adjust manually to avoid the block attempt. If you don't do it, you'd get the circus shot that would likely miss if the block wasn't successful due to positioning, or you'd get a successful block.



I'm glad to see you noticed that Sheed was out of position and jumped late. Currently the simple logic I was referring to was checking the difference in height of the players hips at the point of contact. This gives an advantage to the dunker if he had been in the air for longer and the defender jumped late.

It also indirectly allows player height to play a role as well.

My intention is to make this height threshold a factor of the player ratings.

I don't know the exact ratings for rasheed and artest so I don't know what impact my changes would have on this particular dunk, but like you said, with the momentum he had coming in and the late challenge that had very little momentum, I wouldn't be surprised if it still played out this way.

But depending on the ratings it may have played out slightly differently.

Like I said, I'll keep an eye out for different outcomes and see if we can get some vids posted for those.

OK, just to close off this topic for now...

I just implemented the ratings work for dunk collisions and what determines if you're forced into an adjust after contact is made.

We're now using a combination of various ratings including the dunk rating, weight, strength, momentum of the player and difference in hip height at the time of contact.

I just recorded another video for you guys demonstrating the difference the attributes make.

Assuming the video is approved for release (which I'm confident it will be) it should be released on Monday.

We can discuss further then if there are still concerns.

[staffan]

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rEAnimator
Any chance you could help the Madden-team with collision detection?

They NEED it!

Thanks for the info.

[joel0078]

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Someone mentioned the hype mode is in full affect. I agree and I'm not hating. I own just about every Live title since "Live 95". Every year they hype the game and that's fine. I'm sure hype alone accounts for half their sales. But let's face it, more times than not, Live has been a disappointment on next generation consoles and I'm not saying its been bad, just that its been a letdown (IMO). Like others who watched the videos, I'm seeing the sliding, the unrealistic dunk, the lack of difficulty Artest has putting that dunk down on a contest like that...and so on.

Over the past few weeks I've read posts where the developers are asking for our trust and ensuring us that this or that will be fixed by release, every time there is a criticism. All I'm saying is I hope this is true and their word is kept. Don't repeat promises of years past, because every year the mantra seems to be "it'll be fixed next year". I'm looking forward to the demo, but my anticipation factor is nowhere near what it has been in years past. I've dealt with to many years of letdowns with this title and this year it will not be a day 1 purchase for me, however it could become a pre played purchase a few weeks after release. Having said that, I am hoping for the best and hoping this is Elites year to shine and all this hype isn't just the usual talk.

Edit: when can we expect the demo?

[rEAnimator]

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Someone mentioned the hype mode is in full affect. I agree and I'm not hating. I own just about every Live title since "Live 95". Every year they hype the game and that's fine. I'm sure hype alone accounts for half their sales. But let's face it, more times than not, Live has been a disappointment on next generation consoles and I'm not saying its been bad, just that its been a letdown (IMO). Like others who watched the videos, I'm seeing the sliding, the unrealistic dunk, the lack of difficulty Artest has putting that dunk down on a contest like that...and so on.

Over the past few weeks I've read posts where the developers are asking for our trust and ensuring us that this or that will be fixed by release, every time there is a criticism. All I'm saying is I hope this is true and their word is kept. Don't repeat promises of years past, because every year the mantra seems to be "it'll be fixed next year". I'm looking forward to the demo, but my anticipation factor is nowhere near what it has been in years past. I've dealt with to many years of letdowns with this title and this year it will not be a day 1 purchase for me, however it could become a pre played purchase a few weeks after release. Having said that, I am hoping for the best and hoping this is Elites year to shine and all this hype isn't just the usual talk.

Edit: when can we expect the demo?

I think it's wise to keep your expectations in check. Try the demo before you make a decision. We've made a lot of changes this year, more than you've come to expect from past years experience.

We've also had to make compromises, but in the end I think we've made the right decisions and the game is turning out to be very, very good.

And for the record, we are not going to fix every problem and none of the devs on here have made that claim.

We are working to improve in every area and the feedback we've received over the many months of hands on play tests by reviewers and community guys alike, along with early video releases and feedback from these forums has helped mold the game into something better than it would have been otherwise. But it will not be perfect so don't go in expecting that.

I am extremely proud of what we've produced, and I genuinely believe people will enjoy playing it more than any other basketball game in the past. But it may not be for everyone, so try the demo and see where you stand.

Hopefully you'll like it as much as I do

Oh, and I don't know the demo date. I'm waiting to find out just like you guys.

I honestly cannot wait until that day.

This forum is going to be a madhouse of activity and I'm looking forward to being a part of it.

[Jano]

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Edit: when can we expect the demo?

Early september from most reports

[rEAnimator]

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Sept 6 for XBL and Sept 7 for PSN

Really?

When was that announced?

[Jano]

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Haha edited that thought I got those dates from a legit site they were just random dates a site decided to add.

[rEAnimator]

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Haha edited that thought I got those dates from a legit site they were just random dates a site decided to add.

LOL...it seemed a little early but not out of the question I guess.

I have no idea really.

I'm anxious for it so earlier is fine by me