NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

[Rocboyz101]

Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

And someone attempting a dunk in traffic from the free throw line, or steve nash attempting to tomahawk dunk shouldn't even be possible. How corny would it be if you drive and you mean to do a hard layup with nash...and the sucker trys to dunk it? Again, somethings just shouldn't be allowed. This an example of where total control can cause a bit of chaos.

[HoosierDaddy]

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The point of a sports video game to me is doing anything you want to do as long as it fits within a players boundaries. If the only things that you were allowed to do in the game was things you see players do irl then everything would be canned animations. You would have absolute no control. You might as well let the computer play for you.

sports games gives users the chance to take control of a team and do what they what to do. That is why its a game.

But i understand what you are trying to get at. I hate to see cheesers doing things online then get rewarded for it with points or a win. There needs to be more penalties when it comes to that and i dont mean disconnections, bans, etc. But things like missed shots, turnovers, losses, fatigued, etc.

It's basically the same thing. Anything you see a player do in real life and play within their boundaries. About the same. The control comes when you choose what play to run, who to run it for, and execute that play. Control your favorite player or team and imitate what you see in real life. Have realistic rules and stats and not seeing unrealistic moves or absurd stats. I guess I'm just a sim-head and want as authentic experience as I can get.

[michaeljordanjr]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation

The act of simulating something generally entails representing certain key characteristics or behaviours of a selected physical or abstract system.

When you insert variable - "HUMAN USER" you cannot fully expect the user to manipulate said simulation to every faithful detail and characteristic.

Are some of you confused as to what a simulation is? For Basketball its, running plays, setting picks, boxing out, physicality and control over all of these things. Not every nook and cranny or nuance is gonna be perfect. As long as the main characteristics are programmed in, its a simulation.

If NBA ELITE was a game that only let you view games that have CPU vs CPU maybe that would be considered 100% a simulation. If we define it literally.

We already see how ELITE has represented characteristics and behaviour of a real NBA game on the physics side.

Because some users do not know how to run Basketball simulations should not deter your interest in the game.

Get the demo, play it and THEN you can post "its not a simulation" or "its a simulation".

[ajknows]

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Exactly...according to them...oh but thats TOTAL CONTROL...its just stupid that someone would get excited over being able to have the control to do impossible things....

What is it you are not understanding? No one wants the players to have the ability to dunk from the 3 point line, just the option to if your heart desires.

Every player in the nba can attempt a dunk from the 3 point line can they do it and be successful...no, same way with the game.

Now if the cpu starts trying to do these things we have a problem.

[erickonasis]

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What is it you are not understanding? No one wants the players to have the ability to dunk from the 3 point line, just the option to if your heart desires.

Thats what im talking about YOUR not understanding ...what fun do you get out of being able to have the option for Shaq to do a 360 dunk? Pretty ridiculous if you ask me that is NOT sim. In other words your want to encourage someone to use this type of play by giving them the option

[Rocboyz101]

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Every player in the nba can attempt a dunk from the 3 point line can they do it and be successful...no, same way with the game.

LMAO. So you wouldn't mind an ugly animation of a player attempting to dunk from the 3pt line and throwing up some dumb shot rather than it being an automatic jumpshot eh?

[erickonasis]

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Every player in the nba can attempt a dunk from the 3 point line can they do it and be successful...no, same way with the game.

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LMAO. So you wouldn't mind an ugly animation of a player attempting to dunk from the 3pt line and throwing up some ******** shot rather than it being an automatic jumpshot eh?

Thats what im tryng to say ..what on gods green earth kinda enjoyment do you get seeing something like that in Game...Every player should not have every players Moveset thats just utter nonsense

[Jano]

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Thats what im talking about YOUR not understanding ...what fun do you get out of being able to have the option for Shaq to do a 360 dunk? Pretty ridiculous if you ask me that is NOT sim. In other words your want to encourage someone to use this type of play by giving them the option

I don't think you can control exactly what dunk you can do so that's probably not even an issue.

LMAO. So you wouldn't mind an ugly animation of a player attempting to dunk from the 3pt line and throwing up some dumb shot rather than it being an automatic jumpshot eh?

That's up to the user if they want to see that. Maybe some 3 year would want to see what happens if you try to dunk from the 3pt line lol!

But dunking from the 3pt point line wasn't even an option anyway when I played, all that will happen is you either shoot a regular jumpshot or maybe a leaner.

[Rocboyz101]

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I don't think you can control exactly what dunk you can do so that's probably not even an issue.



That's up to the user if they want to see that. Maybe some 3 year would want to see what happens if you try to dunk from the 3pt line lol!

But dunking from the 3pt point line wasn't even an option anyway when I played, all that will happen is you either shoot a regular jumpshot or maybe a leaner.

Just trying to get an idea where people minds are on this topic..kinda weird that people wouldn't mind seeing that to me. I'd personally wanna throw up if I saw that animation but that's just me.

[RayDog253]

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I say nobody is wrong in this argument. I agree that you should have control of every little thing. But there should be different animations for those who cant do it or don't do it as good.

But I also agree that just cause you have full control doesn't mean players should be jumping from the three point line trying to attempt something that is impossible even in a video game. If you try to dunk from out there, it should just be a regular jumper or a runner of some sort.



Now let's just wait for the demo.

[Jano]

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Just trying to get an idea where people minds are on this topic..kinda weird that people wouldn't mind seeing that to me. I'd personally wanna throw up if I saw that animation but that's just me.

Trust me so would I and that's why I'm happy its not even possible to trigger a dunk animation from that far out.

[ajknows]

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Thats what im talking about YOUR not understanding ...what fun do you get out of being able to have the option for Shaq to do a 360 dunk? Pretty ridiculous if you ask me that is NOT sim. In other words your want to encourage someone to use this type of play by giving them the option

Again yes give people the option to try do it, Shaq can try to do it. But his skill set in the game will make it impossible to do.

So people will be discouraged not encouraged to try such an crazy attempt.

[fatleg3]

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Exactly...according to them...oh but thats TOTAL CONTROL...its just stupid that someone would get excited over being able to have the control to do impossible things....

Nobody is getting excited about being able to do things like what this argument is over. Everyone says that if you try and do things like that then you should fail. And the argument is that you should have to control to try and do things. Nobody said they what to do do things or impossible things.

On the dunking subject either way is good for me. If they let you try and do stupid things when it comes to that then it will make people think about what they do. if they switch to a layup animation or whatever then it will make the game looks better

[erickonasis]

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Nobody is getting excited about being able to do things like what this argument is over. Everyone says that if you try and do things like that then you should fail. And the argument is that you should have to control to try and do things. Nobody said they what to do do things or impossible things.

On the dunking subject either way is good for me. If they let you try and do stupid things when it comes to that then it will make people think about what they do. if they switch to a layup animation or whatever then it will make the game looks better

so basically everyone should have everyones moveset except some should fail at doing it...pretty ridiculous if you ask me...No moveset is exclusive to that player even tho hes the only one that ever does it smh

[erickonasis]

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So people will be discouraged not encouraged to try such an crazy attempt.

if its not in there for that persons move set they wont attempt it anyway