NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

**jtdribbles25** · 09-16-2010, 09:08 AM

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

Originally posted by rEAnimator

Thanks man, I'm glad you see it that way.

Before the blog all I was reading was that we hadn't released enough information.

After the blog, which contained a lot of info, I'm reading that there's nothing new and we've already heard all this. Or that the info has come too late.

We just can't win either way

No you guys can win, but you've got to give us something worth having. the write-ups feel like they are weeks old. and more marketing hype and words than anything. how about a video showcasing these new defensive moments. but ok. you guys can't win. The demo would have curtailed this oh, lets see, a WEEK ago maybe.

**rEAnimator** · 09-16-2010, 09:19 AM

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

Originally posted by jtdribbles25

No you guys can win, but you've got to give us something worth having. the write-ups feel like they are weeks old. and more marketing hype and words than anything. how about a video showcasing these new defensive moments. but ok. you guys can't win. The demo would have curtailed this oh, lets see, a WEEK ago maybe.

Not if the demo wasn't good.

There is a correlation between the timing of the demo release and the quality of the demo.

The later the demo, the closer it will be to the final product.

We made a call that it was more important to have the demo better represent the final product than release it early.

It's not because we're playing any games.

You've said you wanted a video to back up the words in the blog. Guys back in Burnaby, can we make that happen?

**The 24th Letter** · 09-16-2010, 09:42 AM

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

I can respect that ReAn...hey we got a early demo from the other game and while fun, its bare. You guys are trying to show us a brand new kind of game...Im fine with releasing a quality demo...

**jlbrown143** · 09-16-2010, 10:05 AM

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

Originally posted by rEAnimator

Not if the demo wasn't good.

There is a correlation between the timing of the demo release and the quality of the demo.

The later the demo, the closer it will be to the final product.

We made a call that it was more important to have the demo better represent the final product than release it early.

It's not because we're playing any games.

You've said you wanted a video to back up the words in the blog. Guys back in Burnaby, can we make that happen?

Hey reAnimator thanks for getting us some more information..there was alot in that blog that I haven't heard or read so I found it informative, and I accept your position on the importance of releasing a quality demo...I think the thing that would help the frustration is if someone or whoever is in control of announcements would just simply say when we can expect the demo...all this delay is only making things worse for the success of your game...patience is wearing thin ..(just sayin)

now at this point like I said before when you do release information if, since we can't seem to get our hands on the demo...at least attemp to show us the new improvements of your game with the blogs...if that is possible......credibility is everything at this stage of the game...

the Hype will build as I said before by coming through on your promises..it's really that simple....(just sayin)

**DR Russell** · 09-16-2010, 10:30 AM

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

rEAnimator is right, I rather have a quality demo that represents the final build well, than having something with an earlier build that doesn't play solid.

I played the other demo and I'm not sold, all I have is Elite this year for my basketball fix

**stepsix** · 09-16-2010, 10:31 AM

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

I hope they post some footage from the game Nov and I played a couple days ago - he was down by about 8 pts with 2 minutes to go in the fourth and managed to bring it back within 2 with full court pressure on my inbounds.

You have to stay alert if someone is pressuring the inbound, but there are some good counters if you're paying attention. Having two guards back, you can icon pass to either one, or player switch to either one. In previous years inbound steals were cheesy so we'd have to tone down the ability to intercept passes just after inbounds. This year it actually feels appropriately intense when the ball is about to get inbounded.

**dwanestar** · 09-16-2010, 10:33 AM

ea talks too much ...most people wanna c stuff with there own eyes....my guess is ...
ea aint ready yet for 2k but thats okay ...cus we got 2k...maybe next year...but my guess..they wont be ready...
its all good baby babbbbyyy

**da ThRONe** · 09-16-2010, 10:37 AM

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

Originally posted by The 24th Letter

I can respect that ReAn...hey we got a early demo from the other game and while fun, its bare. You guys are trying to show us a brand new kind of game...Im fine with releasing a quality demo...

Agreed. I dont mind waiting on the demo. They have so much more to prove ,and I assume they will be a lot more data in Elites demo then the other guys which just makes sense that it would take longer to get to us.

EA take your time and make sure it's right because you guys have so much to gain and lose based on this demo.

**MrMars** · 09-16-2010, 10:40 AM

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

Originally posted by jtdribbles25

No you guys can win, but you've got to give us something worth having. the write-ups feel like they are weeks old. and more marketing hype and words than anything. how about a video showcasing these new defensive moments. but ok. you guys can't win. The demo would have curtailed this oh, lets see, a WEEK ago maybe.

ontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><style>  </style> You speak as if there is a supreme entitlement that must be vindicated. For if not, you will withhold your gold pieces and forever cast all that toil away on this NBA Elite 11 to depths of game maker Haddes, where they will never be seen nor heard from again.
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Really now, these guys work for guy, who works for another guy, who works for another guy, rinse and repeat until you get to the top guy at Electronic Arts Corporation. You have no idea what limitations are in place as far anything where this game is involved. Not demos, blogs, videos or any other information relating or pertaining to said game.
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These guys bust their hump to make the best game possible given the time and resources available to them. And when the game is finished they’ll give you a test drive. From that test drive you decide whether or not to buy the game. It’s a simple process.
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The fact that these guys are even here to dialogue with us should be appreciated and respected. I am not saying that these guys are being personally disrespected, but, if every time they come around they’re being slammed no matter what they do and basically told, in a roundabout way that they suck at their job, there is going to come a point where they say; “F*@k it” why bother and not come around anymore.
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The amount of criticism positive and negative for a game that very few if any of us here at OS have even had the chance to play yet, tells me that a lot of this criticism is merely co-signing, because it seems to be in vogue for this game.
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I’ve said before and I’ll say it again “WAIT FOR THE DEMO, IT WILL GET HERE WHEN ITS HERE, THEN VOTE WITH YOUR FEET, IF NECESSARY, ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER OPTION”
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MrMars

**dwanestar** · 09-16-2010, 10:42 AM

if the demo still aint close to the real deal build final version then what up with that...its should like..already be done..sorry the created players of ea suck anyway so..plus the players all look so skinny asshy like dave chappelle on crack...for two years danilo galinnari looked liked the easter bunny and dont get me started on the other players...its not a bad game but compared too 2k yall just aint there yet.. 2k is takin over and thats okay ea got so many other games...so F.. the demo cus its allmost over 5 oct is commin and demos suppose to come out earlier than the game itself...mannn...i was such a fan of ea live games ..nba live 2000 still my favorite..i guess thats says it all.. i wanna be loyal but man my money should go to the game that aint makin me angry when i play it..only ea nba live playin online was waayyyy better then 2k...but thats okay my player mode is this years focus..offline or online

**misterupgrade** · 09-16-2010, 12:36 PM

Can't say I agree with most of you. With the exception of the NHL franchise, EA has an extensive history of putting out inferior games, so of course most of us will be skeptical. To make things worse, they have begun to penalize frugal gamers who choose to wait for a used copy by not including features that were previously standard, as if $54.99 will put their executives in the poor house.

The bottomline is this, as consumers we want a product we feel is worth our $60+, I don't think we owe it to any video game company to take their word for it when they say we've made vast improvements, especially if their word has not be reliable in the past. The game is supposed to be out in about three weeks, if it's not "ready" at this point chances are it will not be "ready" on release date.

**misterupgrade** · 09-16-2010, 12:39 PM

I also don't feel the developers are doing anyone any favors by commenting in these forums. I would rather the finished product speak for itself. Good games typically sell, bad ones usually do not.

**Rocboyz101** · 09-16-2010, 02:18 PM

Re: NBA Elite 11 Defensive Blog

This sounds good actually..

**btrapp** · 09-16-2010, 04:28 PM

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

Originally posted by MrMars

ontGrowAutofit/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--><style>  </style> You speak as if there is a supreme entitlement that must be vindicated. For if not, you will withhold your gold pieces and forever cast all that toil away on this NBA Elite 11 to depths of game maker Haddes, where they will never be seen nor heard from again.
<o></o>
Really now, these guys work for guy, who works for another guy, who works for another guy, rinse and repeat until you get to the top guy at Electronic Arts Corporation. You have no idea what limitations are in place as far anything where this game is involved. Not demos, blogs, videos or any other information relating or pertaining to said game.
<o></o>
These guys bust their hump to make the best game possible given the time and resources available to them. And when the game is finished they’ll give you a test drive. From that test drive you decide whether or not to buy the game. It’s a simple process.
<o></o>
The fact that these guys are even here to dialogue with us should be appreciated and respected. I am not saying that these guys are being personally disrespected, but, if every time they come around they’re being slammed no matter what they do and basically told, in a roundabout way that they suck at their job, there is going to come a point where they say; “F*@k it” why bother and not come around anymore.
<o></o>
The amount of criticism positive and negative for a game that very few if any of us here at OS have even had the chance to play yet, tells me that a lot of this criticism is merely co-signing, because it seems to be in vogue for this game.
<o></o>
I’ve said before and I’ll say it again “WAIT FOR THE DEMO, IT WILL GET HERE WHEN ITS HERE, THEN VOTE WITH YOUR FEET, IF NECESSARY, ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER OPTION”
<o></o>
MrMars

I think the thing you need to realize is that most of the people who are giving this "vogue criticism" are people that BOUGHT nba live 10. People that spent their hard earned money on last years bball game from ea sports. People enjoyed the heck out of nba live 10 and expected ea to continue to improve upon the solid foundation they'd built. But guess what? EA decided " let's start all over again even though our customers never asked for it!" This is where most of the criticism is coming from. It wouldn't be vouge to criticize nba elite if ea didn't give us a reason to.

As far as the devs go, i agree that they should be respected more for taking the time out of their day to converse with their potential customers.
There's no doubt about that.

**jtdribbles25** · 09-16-2010, 06:37 PM

Re: New blog: Defensive Blog

Originally posted by rEAnimator

Not if the demo wasn't good.

There is a correlation between the timing of the demo release and the quality of the demo.

The later the demo, the closer it will be to the final product.

We made a call that it was more important to have the demo better represent the final product than release it early.

It's not because we're playing any games.

You've said you wanted a video to back up the words in the blog. Guys back in Burnaby, can we make that happen?

okay, I can respect that. I've never heard that before. It's always that the demo is from an old build.... Having had a chance to play an older build, I think it's extremely wise that you have a demo that represents the final product better. Good call.

Now maybe if you guys (ie., EA) would've said this a week or so ago, at least the nervous energy we manic os'ers spend on these forums would be spent in another direction...lol.

I never meant to imply that you were 'playing any games'. Im actually more anxious to see the feedback on this forum, and see if it wildly swings around.

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