It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game are

[RayRay34]

Would EA or could EA do anything to the people who got elite after recall???? Any of the programmers know the answer??

[countryboy]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

no they couldn't. The most they could do is go after the seller, but not the consumer. Its not the consumers job to know that a product available for sale is recalled, thats the job/responsibility of the seller.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

EA "could" ask Sony and Microsoft to ban the accounts of people who have the game.
If EA really wanted to play hard ball they could press charges under the pirating act, since legally the game hasn't been released yet. And what ever store it was traced too would face a very hefty fine in the thousands of dollars and the individual who has the game could face a fine in the thousands of dollars too.

All depends on how hard EA wants to pursue it.

[countryboy]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

EA "could" ask Sony and Microsoft to ban the accounts of people who have the game.
If EA really wanted to play hard ball they could press charges under the pirating act, since legally the game hasn't been released yet. And what ever store it was traced too would face a very hefty fine in the thousands of dollars and the individual who has the game could face a fine in the thousands of dollars too.

All depends on how hard EA wants to pursue it.

how could EA claim pirating if they released the game to the stores and then recalled them back?

[beatnik]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

EA can't do anything but get the retailer for breaking street date. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

Because if something is recalled before the street date release, don't matter if stores got them in stock or not, they legally can't sell it. Cash registers nowadays won't even allow the sale of an item before street date in most stores now.

Therefore the only way to get it would involve paying somebody cash under the table. That in itself is illegal. So if it don't fit under the pirating act, it most definitely would fall under illegal distribution & unauthorized selling laws.

[countryboy]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

Because if something is recalled before the street date release, don't matter if stores got them in stock or not, they legally can't sell it. Cash registers nowadays won't even allow the sale of an item before street date in most stores now.

Therefore the only way to get it would involve paying somebody cash under the table. That in itself is illegal. So if it don't fit under the pirating act, it most definitely would fall under illegal distribution & unauthorized selling laws.

Then how do you explain people buying games early all the time? As for the cash register, all it takes is a manager override and the game is sold.

Its not the consumers responsibilty to know whether something for sale is recalled or breaking street date. That again, is the job of the seller.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

People buy games early all the time from small stores or off the workers at a Walmart, Target or Best Buy straight cash, no receipt.

Trust me, at Walmart, Best Buy and Target, games aren't just sitting in a box somewhere in the back, those games are locked in a steel cage vault, with only the maangers having the key to that cage vault.

And want to now why they keep games locked in a vault now before street date ? From all the years of employees sticking their hands in the boxes and selling them for straight cash out the back door. I remember when I was in high school and college I had a friend who worked at Target, he would steal a stack of games from the back out of the boxes, come up to the school, pop open the trunk of his car and sell them straight cash before street date.

Now all games are locked up in a vault until street date. Same thing goes for systems, ipods, cell phones, cameras and laptops.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

Also I would like to add when I use to work at Walmart, Microsoft and Sony had their own damn vendor stock the shelves of all big name games that Microsoft & Sony produced themselves because they didn't trust store employees.

[countryboy]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

People buy games early all the time from small stores or off the workers at a Walmart, Target or Best Buy straight cash, no receipt.

And that would be incorrect. I've bought games early at Target, Wal-Mart, Meijers and Sears that were in the case available for sale, bought it with a debit/credit card or cash and got a receipt.

There is nothing that EA can do the consumer so long as they themselves didn't pirate a copy or knowingly buy a pirated copy.

[countryboy]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

Also I would like to add when I use to work at Walmart, Microsoft and Sony had their own damn vendor stock the shelves of all big name games that Microsoft & Sony produced themselves because they didn't trust store employees.

that must've been your Wal-Mart because that doesn't happen at my local Wal-Mart.

[TheBrothers24]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

People buy games early all the time from small stores or off the workers at a Walmart, Target or Best Buy straight cash, no receipt.

Trust me, at Walmart, Best Buy and Target, games aren't just sitting in a box somewhere in the back, those games are locked in a steel cage vault, with only the maangers having the key to that cage vault.

And want to now why they keep games locked in a vault now before street date ? From all the years of employees sticking their hands in the boxes and selling them for straight cash out the back door. I remember when I was in high school and college I had a friend who worked at Target, he would steal a stack of games from the back out of the boxes, come up to the school, pop open the trunk of his car and sell them straight cash before street date.

Now all games are locked up in a vault until street date. Same thing goes for systems, ipods, cell phones, cameras and laptops.

Not true at all. I used to work at best buy and no games aren't locked in a vault or even locked up. Games are kept in the warehouse in the original boxes until we can put them out. Nothing is kept locked up not even big releases. Elite 11 was kept in their boxes until shipped back and all boxes get opened as soon as we received them to check and make sure nothing is damaged and to do a count.

In fact we don't even case the games until we are about to put them on the shelf. Also the only time a big vendor comes and stocks their own game is when they are launching a new system or putting up a new display. The employees stock all the games.

[RayRay34]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

Just got an interesting Private Messages about this topic

[RayRay34]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

Because if something is recalled before the street date release, don't matter if stores got them in stock or not, they legally can't sell it. Cash registers nowadays won't even allow the sale of an item before street date in most stores now.

Therefore the only way to get it would involve paying somebody cash under the table. That in itself is illegal. So if it don't fit under the pirating act, it most definitely would fall under illegal distribution & unauthorized selling laws.

What If I got a copy of a game paid in full already off my pre-order, we'll use NBA Jam for the Wii, since I have it paid in full and its a EA game (dont wanna talk about that other NBA game I have pre ordered and paid in full also in a EA game forum.) The guy I know at Gamestop hands me my copy today, Saturday , writes down the UPC # off the back of the box, and since he is working on Tuesday , runs it thru the register then showing it was picked up, and all I'll have to do is stop in to pick up the receipt
Which I still need to do for that other NBA game so I can get my MJ avatar Jersey!

[CX1329]

Re: It would be interesting to know what the consequences for those who have the game

If any legal consequences ensued as a result of people getting the game, that would illustrate just how abuse prone legal systems are these days. No, I personally can't see anything wrong with getting Elite 11, but nowadays, top lawyers are able to find ludicrous ways to interpret the law and turn anything and everything into a potential lawsuit. Thus, I'd be careful.