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  • BigTigLSU
    H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
    • Sep 2002
    • 6506

    #1

    Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

    but does it have to be? Why don't they get the patch makers who fix the faces on PC to work on Faces and Player models. I mean the game would be 100% better. Tim from NLCS knows how good these guys are why doesn't he get EA to gather the best of the best and let them do the faces while they have their AI programmers work on AI the game would be great but these player faces or not on the level the next generation gaming consoles or PCs
    RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
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  • Admiral50
    Banned
    • Aug 2002
    • 3311

    #2
    Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

    Are the guys who made NBA Street 2 the Live devs? I am sure I read somewhere that they are the same.
    Street 2 looks 10 times better than Live...maybe they can't get a decent frame rate with 10 Street 2 quality guys on the court?
    Live with the Street 2 engine would be much better. The body sizes for starters look way better and it just seems to have much smoother animations. And while graphics don't mean gameplay, smooth animation makes gameplay better in my opinion.
    Oh for those who didn't see it in the ESPN forum... this is what you are missing out on with 2K4... (graphics-wise anyway)

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    • Admiral50
      Banned
      • Aug 2002
      • 3311

      #3
      Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

      Are the guys who made NBA Street 2 the Live devs? I am sure I read somewhere that they are the same.
      Street 2 looks 10 times better than Live...maybe they can't get a decent frame rate with 10 Street 2 quality guys on the court?
      Live with the Street 2 engine would be much better. The body sizes for starters look way better and it just seems to have much smoother animations. And while graphics don't mean gameplay, smooth animation makes gameplay better in my opinion.
      Oh for those who didn't see it in the ESPN forum... this is what you are missing out on with 2K4... (graphics-wise anyway)

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      • Admiral50
        Banned
        • Aug 2002
        • 3311

        #4
        Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

        Are the guys who made NBA Street 2 the Live devs? I am sure I read somewhere that they are the same.
        Street 2 looks 10 times better than Live...maybe they can't get a decent frame rate with 10 Street 2 quality guys on the court?
        Live with the Street 2 engine would be much better. The body sizes for starters look way better and it just seems to have much smoother animations. And while graphics don't mean gameplay, smooth animation makes gameplay better in my opinion.
        Oh for those who didn't see it in the ESPN forum... this is what you are missing out on with 2K4... (graphics-wise anyway)

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        • BigTigLSU
          H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
          • Sep 2002
          • 6506

          #5
          Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

          Whats funny is that looks to be about the quality of a good patch on PC. Those guys are great I mean they make live look beautiful. I mean ESPN faces are great and I am sure that the PC faces will be that good if not better. EA is really nissing out on a talented bunch of guys and they are falling behind in the graphics department. Its moe like a step backwards.
          RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
          www.grownmansports.com
          Facebook.com/grownmansports

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          • BigTigLSU
            H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
            • Sep 2002
            • 6506

            #6
            Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

            Whats funny is that looks to be about the quality of a good patch on PC. Those guys are great I mean they make live look beautiful. I mean ESPN faces are great and I am sure that the PC faces will be that good if not better. EA is really nissing out on a talented bunch of guys and they are falling behind in the graphics department. Its moe like a step backwards.
            RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
            www.grownmansports.com
            Facebook.com/grownmansports

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            • BigTigLSU
              H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
              • Sep 2002
              • 6506

              #7
              Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

              Whats funny is that looks to be about the quality of a good patch on PC. Those guys are great I mean they make live look beautiful. I mean ESPN faces are great and I am sure that the PC faces will be that good if not better. EA is really nissing out on a talented bunch of guys and they are falling behind in the graphics department. Its moe like a step backwards.
              RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
              www.grownmansports.com
              Facebook.com/grownmansports

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              • jmood88
                Sean Payton: Retribution
                • Jul 2003
                • 34639

                #8
                Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                I've seen the graphics after pne of the patches and they don't make the game look much better. Or maybe I was looking at a bad version or something. But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.
                Originally posted by Blzer
                Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #9
                  Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                  I've seen the graphics after pne of the patches and they don't make the game look much better. Or maybe I was looking at a bad version or something. But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • jmood88
                    Sean Payton: Retribution
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #10
                    Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                    I've seen the graphics after pne of the patches and they don't make the game look much better. Or maybe I was looking at a bad version or something. But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.
                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                    If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                    • karma224
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 692

                      #11
                      Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      Are the guys who made NBA Street 2 the Live devs? I am sure I read somewhere that they are the same.


                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      no, just very talented artist who love the game.

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      well, that's your opinion. ESPN 2k4 may be superior on the console graphically, but I feel that a patched cyber player in Live 2004 will look a lot better than 2k4.

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                      • karma224
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 692

                        #12
                        Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        Are the guys who made NBA Street 2 the Live devs? I am sure I read somewhere that they are the same.


                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        no, just very talented artist who love the game.

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        well, that's your opinion. ESPN 2k4 may be superior on the console graphically, but I feel that a patched cyber player in Live 2004 will look a lot better than 2k4.

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                        • karma224
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 692

                          #13
                          Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          Are the guys who made NBA Street 2 the Live devs? I am sure I read somewhere that they are the same.


                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          no, just very talented artist who love the game.

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          well, that's your opinion. ESPN 2k4 may be superior on the console graphically, but I feel that a patched cyber player in Live 2004 will look a lot better than 2k4.

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                          • BigTigLSU
                            H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 6506

                            #14
                            Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            jmood88 said:
                            I've seen the graphics after pne of the patches and they don't make the game look much better. Or maybe I was looking at a bad version or something. But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Could Somebody post some patched faces for live 2003 so jmood88 can check them out. they were amazing compared to the default faces.
                            RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
                            www.grownmansports.com
                            Facebook.com/grownmansports

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                            • BigTigLSU
                              H*p H*p 4 H*rs*m*n
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 6506

                              #15
                              Re: Live 2004 is plain ugly ......

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              jmood88 said:
                              I've seen the graphics after pne of the patches and they don't make the game look much better. Or maybe I was looking at a bad version or something. But every graphical thing in live is ugly. It's almost as bad as inside drive.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Could Somebody post some patched faces for live 2003 so jmood88 can check them out. they were amazing compared to the default faces.
                              RIP Drucilla S Thomas 1952-2008 "Love You Momma"
                              www.grownmansports.com
                              Facebook.com/grownmansports

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