Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay - Operation Sports Forums

Hey everyone, just wanted to let you all know OS now has an official Discord that you can join right now. We’ve kicked around Discords for individual games in the past, but it felt like the right time to make it more of an official thing.

Steve and I have wanted to get this going for a bit because we obviously still hear from y’all who are unhappy with some stuff on the forums, plus when there are forum outages we still want to have a place for everyone to hang. My overarching goal for the longer term is to have both Discord and the forums ultimately work together. There are some logistical issues with the vBulletin forums that don’t allow things to sync right with Discord so there will be a little maneuvering as we try to get mods and forum members any proper roles/tags they need on the Discord, but we can work through that stuff easily enough as people join.

Our general goal is to give people more options to interact with OS community members, whether that’s Discord, the forums, this newsletter, or improved apps. If people want to stick more to the forums, that’s cool. If people want to stick more to the Discord, that’s also cool. In my perfect world, we do a lot of BSing and day-to-day chatting on the Discord about games and sports, and then more of the “in-depth” discussions or hefty things like long slider breakdowns or analysis of gameplay end up on the forums so that can act as a sort of “best of” area for anything OS community related. That said, you all will ultimately shape how the ecosystem shakes out, I just want to give you spaces you like so you can have a good time with other folks in the community.

The same general rules will apply on the Discord as they do on the forums, and we’ve brought most of the forum categories to the Discord as well so there should not be too much confusion as you navigate around.

With the Operation Sports and Discord announcement now out there, it’s also worth mentioning our OS premium newsletter, which quietly launched a couple of weeks ago. Built off the Not Just Another Roster Update newsletter, it offers a mix of retrospectives, guides, interviews and deeper dives into the sports gaming world—covering both current and classic titles.

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marshall750

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10-16-2003, 07:12 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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For example, if I run a pick and roll with my PG and C, and I get the D to switch which leaves their C on my PG, if I run too close to a different teammate (say, my SF) the SF will switch with the C and guard my PG and their C will guard my SF (IE less of a mismatch). Then if you keep moving it around and don't stay properly spaced they will eventually sort it all out and end up with everypone having their correct check back without ever having given up an open shot/lane.

You have to learn how to take advantage of these mismatches if you want to score on Superstar mode. I can't win yet, but at least I'm getting so I can compete.

It's the most impressive display of defensive AI I have ever seen in a basketball game.

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That sounds VERY impressive...

I think this may be the game for me.
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BlueDevilsFan

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#32

10-16-2003, 07:18 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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marshall750 said:
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For example, if I run a pick and roll with my PG and C, and I get the D to switch which leaves their C on my PG, if I run too close to a different teammate (say, my SF) the SF will switch with the C and guard my PG and their C will guard my SF (IE less of a mismatch). Then if you keep moving it around and don't stay properly spaced they will eventually sort it all out and end up with everypone having their correct check back without ever having given up an open shot/lane.

You have to learn how to take advantage of these mismatches if you want to score on Superstar mode. I can't win yet, but at least I'm getting so I can compete.

It's the most impressive display of defensive AI I have ever seen in a basketball game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

That sounds VERY impressive...

I think this may be the game for me.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

If you understood my Post you probably understand hoops, and BELIEVE ME when I say if you understand basketball you will LOVE this game.
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BlueDevilsFan

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#33

10-16-2003, 07:18 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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marshall750 said:
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For example, if I run a pick and roll with my PG and C, and I get the D to switch which leaves their C on my PG, if I run too close to a different teammate (say, my SF) the SF will switch with the C and guard my PG and their C will guard my SF (IE less of a mismatch). Then if you keep moving it around and don't stay properly spaced they will eventually sort it all out and end up with everypone having their correct check back without ever having given up an open shot/lane.

You have to learn how to take advantage of these mismatches if you want to score on Superstar mode. I can't win yet, but at least I'm getting so I can compete.

It's the most impressive display of defensive AI I have ever seen in a basketball game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

That sounds VERY impressive...

I think this may be the game for me.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

If you understood my Post you probably understand hoops, and BELIEVE ME when I say if you understand basketball you will LOVE this game.
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BlueDevilsFan

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#34

10-16-2003, 07:18 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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marshall750 said:
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For example, if I run a pick and roll with my PG and C, and I get the D to switch which leaves their C on my PG, if I run too close to a different teammate (say, my SF) the SF will switch with the C and guard my PG and their C will guard my SF (IE less of a mismatch). Then if you keep moving it around and don't stay properly spaced they will eventually sort it all out and end up with everypone having their correct check back without ever having given up an open shot/lane.

You have to learn how to take advantage of these mismatches if you want to score on Superstar mode. I can't win yet, but at least I'm getting so I can compete.

It's the most impressive display of defensive AI I have ever seen in a basketball game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

That sounds VERY impressive...

I think this may be the game for me.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

If you understood my Post you probably understand hoops, and BELIEVE ME when I say if you understand basketball you will LOVE this game.
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marshall750

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10-16-2003, 07:22 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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BlueDevilsFan said:
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marshall750 said:
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For example, if I run a pick and roll with my PG and C, and I get the D to switch which leaves their C on my PG, if I run too close to a different teammate (say, my SF) the SF will switch with the C and guard my PG and their C will guard my SF (IE less of a mismatch). Then if you keep moving it around and don't stay properly spaced they will eventually sort it all out and end up with everypone having their correct check back without ever having given up an open shot/lane.

You have to learn how to take advantage of these mismatches if you want to score on Superstar mode. I can't win yet, but at least I'm getting so I can compete.

It's the most impressive display of defensive AI I have ever seen in a basketball game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

That sounds VERY impressive...

I think this may be the game for me.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

If you understood my Post you probably understand hoops, and BELIEVE ME when I say if you understand basketball you will LOVE this game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

oh, i understood 100%, trust me. And yes, i'm thinking I'm gonna enjoy Live as well. thanks for the info.
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marshall750

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#36

10-16-2003, 07:22 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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BlueDevilsFan said:
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marshall750 said:
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For example, if I run a pick and roll with my PG and C, and I get the D to switch which leaves their C on my PG, if I run too close to a different teammate (say, my SF) the SF will switch with the C and guard my PG and their C will guard my SF (IE less of a mismatch). Then if you keep moving it around and don't stay properly spaced they will eventually sort it all out and end up with everypone having their correct check back without ever having given up an open shot/lane.

You have to learn how to take advantage of these mismatches if you want to score on Superstar mode. I can't win yet, but at least I'm getting so I can compete.

It's the most impressive display of defensive AI I have ever seen in a basketball game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

That sounds VERY impressive...

I think this may be the game for me.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

If you understood my Post you probably understand hoops, and BELIEVE ME when I say if you understand basketball you will LOVE this game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

oh, i understood 100%, trust me. And yes, i'm thinking I'm gonna enjoy Live as well. thanks for the info.
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10-16-2003, 07:22 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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BlueDevilsFan said:
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marshall750 said:
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For example, if I run a pick and roll with my PG and C, and I get the D to switch which leaves their C on my PG, if I run too close to a different teammate (say, my SF) the SF will switch with the C and guard my PG and their C will guard my SF (IE less of a mismatch). Then if you keep moving it around and don't stay properly spaced they will eventually sort it all out and end up with everypone having their correct check back without ever having given up an open shot/lane.

You have to learn how to take advantage of these mismatches if you want to score on Superstar mode. I can't win yet, but at least I'm getting so I can compete.

It's the most impressive display of defensive AI I have ever seen in a basketball game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

That sounds VERY impressive...

I think this may be the game for me.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

If you understood my Post you probably understand hoops, and BELIEVE ME when I say if you understand basketball you will LOVE this game.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

oh, i understood 100%, trust me. And yes, i'm thinking I'm gonna enjoy Live as well. thanks for the info.
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#38

10-16-2003, 07:50 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

Although this was already mentioned, the post game is near perfect IMO Posting up, spinning, drop stepping and going up strong looks amazing and feels great doing it. They do double up alot but it allows u to play a really good in and out game and can get you open 3's. I've been abusing the other teams with Gasol and Stromile, good fun
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#39

10-16-2003, 07:50 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

Although this was already mentioned, the post game is near perfect IMO Posting up, spinning, drop stepping and going up strong looks amazing and feels great doing it. They do double up alot but it allows u to play a really good in and out game and can get you open 3's. I've been abusing the other teams with Gasol and Stromile, good fun
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#40

10-16-2003, 07:50 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

Although this was already mentioned, the post game is near perfect IMO Posting up, spinning, drop stepping and going up strong looks amazing and feels great doing it. They do double up alot but it allows u to play a really good in and out game and can get you open 3's. I've been abusing the other teams with Gasol and Stromile, good fun
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marshall750

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#41

10-16-2003, 07:53 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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JWiLL02 said:
Although this was already mentioned, the post game is near perfect IMO Posting up, spinning, drop stepping and going up strong looks amazing and feels great doing it. They do double up alot but it allows u to play a really good in and out game and can get you open 3's. I've been abusing the other teams with Gasol and Stromile, good fun

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is the post game still super easy with good big men though? i.e. can you easily shoot 85% with Shaq by just dumping it in, spinning and dunking?
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marshall750

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10-16-2003, 07:53 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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JWiLL02 said:
Although this was already mentioned, the post game is near perfect IMO Posting up, spinning, drop stepping and going up strong looks amazing and feels great doing it. They do double up alot but it allows u to play a really good in and out game and can get you open 3's. I've been abusing the other teams with Gasol and Stromile, good fun

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

is the post game still super easy with good big men though? i.e. can you easily shoot 85% with Shaq by just dumping it in, spinning and dunking?
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marshall750

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#43

10-16-2003, 07:53 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

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JWiLL02 said:
Although this was already mentioned, the post game is near perfect IMO Posting up, spinning, drop stepping and going up strong looks amazing and feels great doing it. They do double up alot but it allows u to play a really good in and out game and can get you open 3's. I've been abusing the other teams with Gasol and Stromile, good fun

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

is the post game still super easy with good big men though? i.e. can you easily shoot 85% with Shaq by just dumping it in, spinning and dunking?
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#44

10-16-2003, 07:54 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

Man I forgot to even MENTION the huge variety of defenses that are available to the User and that the CPU throws at you.

3-2 zone, 2-3 zone, 1-3-1 zone, trapping versions of all of them, halfcourt traps, full court man, many more. It's crazy.

When you play the mavs they are constantly switching back and forth between 2-3, 3-2 and man. They even thro in the odd 1-3-1.

Other teams that don't play zone much (IE sixers) will throw one in for a single possession after a timeout and then go right back to man. It catches me off guard constantly. The T-Wolves run a 1-3-1 and put KG in the middle - it's super-tough to beat.

Hint: I've found that the zones are really tough to score on but are weakest in the corners (just like in reality), so with good ball movement you can get a few open looks at three from the deep corner.
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10-16-2003, 07:54 PM

Re: Everything New and Good in Live 2004 Gameplay

Man I forgot to even MENTION the huge variety of defenses that are available to the User and that the CPU throws at you.

3-2 zone, 2-3 zone, 1-3-1 zone, trapping versions of all of them, halfcourt traps, full court man, many more. It's crazy.

When you play the mavs they are constantly switching back and forth between 2-3, 3-2 and man. They even thro in the odd 1-3-1.

Other teams that don't play zone much (IE sixers) will throw one in for a single possession after a timeout and then go right back to man. It catches me off guard constantly. The T-Wolves run a 1-3-1 and put KG in the middle - it's super-tough to beat.

Hint: I've found that the zones are really tough to score on but are weakest in the corners (just like in reality), so with good ball movement you can get a few open looks at three from the deep corner.
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