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  • spankdatazz22
    All Star
    • May 2003
    • 6219

    #1

    Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

    Last night playing my Dynasty w/the Sixers. Sixers (12-6) at home vs. the Cavs (9-7, I think). By the third quarter, I feel that EA "the computer HAS to win, and WILL win" vibe start to seep into the flow of the game. Despite becoming more frustrated, I keep playing. I abandon wide-open jumpers completely late in the game and have to go for slams or layups late in the game. Game goes into OT tied at 86-86.

    Iverson misses a contested layup (no foul) late in OT with about 17secs left. Computer comes down and drives for it's own short jump hook with [Cleveland's center]. Cavs are up 98-96 w/7-8secs left. I call time out just before crossing the half court line w/5.something secs left (to "compose" my team lol). After I come out of the timeout, the computer has [Cleveland's center] TAKING A TECHNICAL FOUL FREE THROW. Which of course he makes. AND the computer is given possession of the ball. Another game quit out of frustration, although in the bigger scheme I allow the loss (went back and sim'd the game) to occur.

    Okay, WTF!!!!!!! happened. NO explanation was given as to why or what happened - Marv Albert was rambling about something, but not about why the computer got the ball. I thought that maybe I didn't have any timeouts, but I paused the game as Cleveland's center was on the foul line - I had one TO left (it was grayed out).

    I like Live. I'm not big on sliders because I hate feeling like I'm simply making the game easier for me rather than what the developers intended for the difficulty to be. But the constant contact in Live on default makes for a frustrating game - it HAS to be tweaked, and I've messed w/my sliders (All Star difficulty). That being said, I've always had the feeling that EA games in general can feel pre-determined - sometimes VERY pre-determined. That if the computer wants to win, it will, regardless of what you do. Going undefeated in a Madden franchise? At some point, you come against the unstoppable foe (which is part of the reason I no longer play the computer). I understand that in a way, all games "cheat" or compensate in a way. It's just that EA games do it in such a blatant way it's ridiculous.

    Again, I like Live. I think EA did a fantastic job with it improving from last year. It's just unfortunate that the AI in their games is so questionable at times. I don't think the game "went out of it's way" to cheat. I think what happened to me is more of a very random glitch - but I think that glitch occurred because at some point in the game it became pre-determined that I was going to lose. Maybe I'll lose by missing too many open shots, or missing contested layups. Or maybe my sure-handed wide receiver will drop a wide-open pass, or my running back will fumble as I'm driving for the go-ahead score. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I've seen it happen in EA Sports games way too much to explain it otherwise.
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  • Cpre5
    Blowing bubbles
    • Jul 2002
    • 3100

    #2
    Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

    Ive yet to see that bug, but I have had some bug problems also.

    When the CPU makes a foul, they give the ball back to them.
    They blow to whistles in a row, one for the foul, then a 2nd while my guy is standing next to the ball out of bounds.
    Then they give the ball back to the CPU. I get this about once per game.

    another one is when I get call for "D" 3 in the key and the CPU gets to take a tech shot for it, right after he makes it they do the inbound pass while he is still on the line, and my team is still off the screen giving him a free layup/dunk.

    Its a fun game, but the free point system for the cPU kinda blows.

    Cpre5

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    • Cpre5
      Blowing bubbles
      • Jul 2002
      • 3100

      #3
      Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

      Ive yet to see that bug, but I have had some bug problems also.

      When the CPU makes a foul, they give the ball back to them.
      They blow to whistles in a row, one for the foul, then a 2nd while my guy is standing next to the ball out of bounds.
      Then they give the ball back to the CPU. I get this about once per game.

      another one is when I get call for "D" 3 in the key and the CPU gets to take a tech shot for it, right after he makes it they do the inbound pass while he is still on the line, and my team is still off the screen giving him a free layup/dunk.

      Its a fun game, but the free point system for the cPU kinda blows.

      Cpre5

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      • Cpre5
        Blowing bubbles
        • Jul 2002
        • 3100

        #4
        Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

        Ive yet to see that bug, but I have had some bug problems also.

        When the CPU makes a foul, they give the ball back to them.
        They blow to whistles in a row, one for the foul, then a 2nd while my guy is standing next to the ball out of bounds.
        Then they give the ball back to the CPU. I get this about once per game.

        another one is when I get call for "D" 3 in the key and the CPU gets to take a tech shot for it, right after he makes it they do the inbound pass while he is still on the line, and my team is still off the screen giving him a free layup/dunk.

        Its a fun game, but the free point system for the cPU kinda blows.

        Cpre5

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        • Jistic
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2003
          • 16405

          #5
          Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

          Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?
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          • Jistic
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 16405

            #6
            Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

            Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?
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            • Jistic
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2003
              • 16405

              #7
              Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

              Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?
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              • tenth
                MVP
                • Dec 2002
                • 1109

                #8
                Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                jistic said:
                Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                Try reading his post again one more time.

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                • tenth
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1109

                  #9
                  Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                  </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                  jistic said:
                  Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?

                  <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                  Try reading his post again one more time.

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                  • tenth
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 1109

                    #10
                    Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    jistic said:
                    Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">
                    Try reading his post again one more time.

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                    • PlayaHataSupreme
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 2209

                      #11
                      Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      jistic said:
                      Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Maybe he went to the pause menu and hit the timeout button one too many times, because I've done that before..... I'm used to the cursor going back to "Resume Game" when taking a T.O...... but in this game, it doesn't, and sometimes unintentionally the user takes an extra timeout.

                      Not to mention that in years past, the Timeout option was grayed out after taking a T.O...... they need to do that again.... of course I should be paying attention, also, but it would be another step forward in making the menus more user friendly.
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                      • PlayaHataSupreme
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 2209

                        #12
                        Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        jistic said:
                        Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        Maybe he went to the pause menu and hit the timeout button one too many times, because I've done that before..... I'm used to the cursor going back to "Resume Game" when taking a T.O...... but in this game, it doesn't, and sometimes unintentionally the user takes an extra timeout.

                        Not to mention that in years past, the Timeout option was grayed out after taking a T.O...... they need to do that again.... of course I should be paying attention, also, but it would be another step forward in making the menus more user friendly.
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                        NFL: Tennessee Titans
                        MLB: Chicago White Sox
                        NCAA: Florida State Seminoles


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                        • PlayaHataSupreme
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 2209

                          #13
                          Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          jistic said:
                          Did you call a timeout when you were out of them?

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          Maybe he went to the pause menu and hit the timeout button one too many times, because I've done that before..... I'm used to the cursor going back to "Resume Game" when taking a T.O...... but in this game, it doesn't, and sometimes unintentionally the user takes an extra timeout.

                          Not to mention that in years past, the Timeout option was grayed out after taking a T.O...... they need to do that again.... of course I should be paying attention, also, but it would be another step forward in making the menus more user friendly.
                          Favorite Teams:
                          NBA: Houston Rockets
                          NFL: Tennessee Titans
                          MLB: Chicago White Sox
                          NCAA: Florida State Seminoles


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                          • jeffli
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 4

                            #14
                            Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                            I also had a similar experience just yesterday. I was called for a shooting foul on an opposing player just as he made the layup. Basket is good, as was confirmed by Marv Albert and the PA announcer. I thought fair call, as I did hit the shooter pretty hard, and was already readying myself for the bonus freethrow and possible rebound when all of a sudden, the opposing team made a quick sideline inbound and snuck in for another easy layup, while I was left standing beyond the three point line, stunned and still crouched, ready to box out for the rebound. Bogus four-point play for the computer. This bug would have been acceptable in live 95 for the SNES, but not anymore. Good thing it happened early in the second half, and did not really affect the outcome of the game.

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                            • jeffli
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4

                              #15
                              Re: Nothing beats this for unexplainable circumstances

                              I also had a similar experience just yesterday. I was called for a shooting foul on an opposing player just as he made the layup. Basket is good, as was confirmed by Marv Albert and the PA announcer. I thought fair call, as I did hit the shooter pretty hard, and was already readying myself for the bonus freethrow and possible rebound when all of a sudden, the opposing team made a quick sideline inbound and snuck in for another easy layup, while I was left standing beyond the three point line, stunned and still crouched, ready to box out for the rebound. Bogus four-point play for the computer. This bug would have been acceptable in live 95 for the SNES, but not anymore. Good thing it happened early in the second half, and did not really affect the outcome of the game.

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