Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

[kingeo19]

Re: Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

Don't want to start a new thread about this so here's something LIVE fans should be checking out.
EA Sports moderator/Advisory Council member CLUEMINATI has a running journal/blog primarily dedicated to his interaction with the new LIVE project.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/8410785.page

The last paragraph of his last entry restates what many have been calling for all along in this 3 year wait.

To make this the truest post I have ever said to close this out. I have spoke about this besides that document I have sent to my CM, and I have serious thoughts about it that it's damn true. If you feel me on this just say co-sign because I have vented too much outside my element being a true poster not a moderator tonight. No game is perfect in the basketball world because you and I know it. It's not like how MLB: The Show, Madden, NHL, Tiger Woods' PGA Golf, & FIFA just flat out sell on the market. I personally do believe what I am about to say... You may think it's corny, but it's a better option. Mike Wang brought his knowledge to 2K and EA at the time because of the success of Kobe Bryant's Courtside Basketball. Ryan Santos is incredible too alongside Jeff Antwi back in EA Canada, and I give props to the guys down in EA Tiburon doing something with the game plus bringing it back. My thought now is NBA LIVE 10 should've been pollished, fine tuned, tweaked, adjusted, and damn sure re-advancing the engine that can go NextGen instead of what I've been seeing. Next event... Who knows? I'm only saying this as a poster.

Hopefully I won't get shut down from my statement.. Because I am sharing this with you guys.

Checked for an UPDATE by CLUEMINATI just a few minutes ago for the first time today and guess what I found.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/8410785.page

The mod/AC members journal was REMOVED. IT'S GONE! Maybe letting out too much truth isn't what EA wants...I don't know.

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believe or not, everyone here is speculating. they dont work for EA. they dont work for 2k. so its speculation galore.

unless someone has the access to wang's contract. its pure speculation.

You really no nothing at all lol

You guess too hard and don't even realize how much of a fail it is

Im telling you dude it seems like you wanna relive the days as some kind of tabloid writer or something...just posting with no facts at all yet you feel as though you do know about us all and what we all do or don't know

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[kingpnp3]

Re: Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

Not technically true, and you could always ask Mike Wang here (beluba is his screen name) I dont know if he would answer though

go ahead and ask him. so we can all find out what the REAL deal is.

[kingpnp3]

Re: Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

And you got this from (begging part)?

Oh MIKE! Join us and you will have some patent with what ever contribution you will give to our engine!! Makes sense /sarcasm

Seriously though EA is not stupid to include that in their contract without some sort of enployment bond at the very least. Wake up man.

wow. you obviously dont understand how contracts work.

there are scenarios where A-list artist, a-list CEO's, A-list developers can get things in their contract the pretty much no one else could get. no one thats not A-list.

so yes its possible. i dont know if it happened or not. but lets not act like its so impossible. when its not.

prime example. most recording artist sign over their publishing rights. which is why it usually takes them awhile to actually become as rich as you think they were after the first album went platinum.

but lets say that same artist has a 3 album deal. and he/she finished the contract and did the 3 albums and they all sold 5 million per, 15 million in total. that artist can go anywhere he/she wants. the label he/she may choose may not give them the best up front cash. but someone will offer that artist their own "PUBLISHING". something thats unheard of to a degree.

just like most artists/groups names are locked into the label contract. but if that artist or band is super successful and its time for a new contract. they may ask for the rights to their name. meaning if anything goes wrong they can still make music using their name vs having to change their name to something else if they chose to leave said label before the contract was up.

YES these things do happen. not often. but it can occur. so its possible. doesnt mean it happened. just mean its possible.

[jersez]

Re: Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

I've been trying to figure this out as well, they could have just copies and pasted live 10s gameplay, add their 100 hours of work on the players faces(which look pretty good) add live 10 body types. Well the hiphopgamer said in one of he's comments that the leak gameplay, wasn't what he saw at E3, which is conflicting, but hey a ray of sunshine is better than no sun at all.

[2kfanatic]

Re: Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

wow. you obviously dont understand how contracts work.

there are scenarios where A-list artist, a-list CEO's, A-list developers can get things in their contract the pretty much no one else could get. no one thats not A-list.

so yes its possible. i dont know if it happened or not. but lets not act like its so impossible. when its not.

prime example. most recording artist sign over their publishing rights. which is why it usually takes them awhile to actually become as rich as you think they were after the first album went platinum.

but lets say that same artist has a 3 album deal. and he/she finished the contract and did the 3 albums and they all sold 5 million per, 15 million in total. that artist can go anywhere he/she wants. the label he/she may choose may not give them the best up front cash. but someone will offer that artist their own "PUBLISHING". something thats unheard of to a degree.

just like most artists/groups names are locked into the label contract. but if that artist or band is super successful and its time for a new contract. they may ask for the rights to their name. meaning if anything goes wrong they can still make music using their name vs having to change their name to something else if they chose to leave said label before the contract was up.

YES these things do happen. not often. but it can occur. so its possible. doesnt mean it happened. just mean its possible.

Yes its technically possible but its not a very smart business move and we all know that EA is very good at business and marketing. I understand how contract works especially in software development since I am in that field and let me tell you that anyone is replaceable(at least that's how they see it). Don't compare NBA or record label contracts to software development contracts because the people involved are not rockstars. Everything in the game is owned by EA and not one person can claim anything. Possible but very improbable...

Don't assume that we don't know anything about anything just because we disagree with you. You don't have a first hand experience about this matter and some people here do. Like you said we are all speculating about this matter and unless we get some kind of confirmation, the best thing we can do is conclude on how most publishers or developers deal with contracts and its not done the way you think its done.

[Pared]

Re: Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

Guys,

This will be the only time I say this; Next time I will shut this thread down.

This forum is about NBA Live. What Mike Wang's job change entails has nothing to do with this thread or this game. You are here to discuss the game and I understand there is certain high school/pre-teen gossip that comes with it. However, you have all ventured far enough from the game that we're barely discussing the game.

Keep your posts on the game. The topic was about why EA can't build off of NBA Live '10. And just so everyone knows, no one game developer has any sort of "rights" to hold onto these sort of design schemes. For all anyone knows, they were detailed before anything was implemented elsewhere. Either way, nothing to do with the game.

So let's get back to the topic.

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Re: Why doesn't EA just build off NBA LIVE 10? THEY CAN'T.

Its already off topic enough, Pared