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  • iClutch
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 83

    #256
    Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

    I kinda liked the trailer, tbh. Looks Live 10-ish, you guys act like this was going to be NBA: ESPN/TNT Michael Jordan Turbo 5D graphic edition 2.0 on the PS75 and XBOX40000. LOL.

    It's not great, but it is SOMETHING.

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    • Xxstr8xRecklessxX
      Rookie
      • Aug 2012
      • 15

      #257
      Originally posted by barimanlhs
      Add to the fact that it was the same dunk...

      What happened to this franchise?
      haha, hope their not jumping from the free throw line when u say same dunk.
      but yea man you right what happen to franchise? idk but in my point of view i think they fell hard when dude left EA n went to 2k...... mike wang i think is his name

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      • RayDog253
        Pro
        • Jul 2009
        • 984

        #258
        Nothing really important but I noticed the jerseys move and wrinkle around the torso area. The shorts still seem too stiff, lol kind of like jeans with too much starch.

        The upper body movements still seem funky. It's almost like a basic stick figure with no joint but the elbow. They definitely need to fix that. And why don't any of these NBA players have a chest.

        Wish I had more to talk about then just visuals though. But that's basically all they gave us, close ups with a few dunks thrown in.


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        • basketballfreak
          Rookie
          • Feb 2012
          • 7

          #259
          Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

          EA graphics have always been better than 2k. What they needed to do was have Live 10 Graphics and 2k gameplay.

          Gameplay in the trailer looks stiff, No real definition of the upper body or arms. Kinda reminds me of elastic models. I've never been fond of the shiny shoulders and head. Chris paul has always looked unrealistic in Live gaming.

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          • Boilerbuzz
            D* B**rs!
            • Jul 2002
            • 5154

            #260
            Originally posted by jreezy18
            I think you're right. Maybe they'll think about giving basketball another shot when the PlayStation 4 comes out.
            I loved Sony's basketball up until the current gen. It looked fantastic, but played a terrible game on court. With time, it could have been better. But it was too far behind the two front runners and people didn't give it a chance. Not to mention it was only on the Ps3, which few people had at the time. The hoops market wasn't big enough to support 3 titles.

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            • Tha_Kid
              All Star
              • Oct 2002
              • 6550

              #261
              Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

              Don't get the reminiscing over Sony's NBA title when Microsoft shut down a much more promising franchise in a more premature fashion.

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              • ghettogeeksta
                Banned
                • Sep 2011
                • 2632

                #262
                Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

                Originally posted by Jet Sufferer
                Thank God they don't have the exclusive license for basketball too. This is the kind of junk we would have gotten, with a massive hype machine behind it. The games would have released and been garbage but still would have had tons of people loving it and tirelessly defending it. Anyone asking for 2K to make a basketball game would have been told there's no guarantee 2K would have ever made anything better. It would have been Madden 6-12 all over again.

                They should just give the game away to season ticket subscribers as an incentive to sell season ticket and try and get the game up to the level of a legitimate release game for next year.

                Too bad for me football is my favorite sport...

                Yeah, this is just proof that we are getting screwed over with Madden.

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24451

                  #263
                  Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

                  Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                  I loved Sony's basketball up until the current gen. It looked fantastic, but played a terrible game on court. With time, it could have been better. But it was too far behind the two front runners and people didn't give it a chance. Not to mention it was only on the Ps3, which few people had at the time. The hoops market wasn't big enough to support 3 titles.
                  Not true at all. The hoops market is and always has been big enough to support at least 3 NBA titles. If you put in a half assed effort however going into things looking for simply a profit, you're going to get burned. If you have a quality NBA title out there it'll sell, you simply have to stick with it. 2K was in Sony's position at one time stuck on a single system that not a WHOLE lot of people had with the better selling system already dominated with 2 titles a juggernaut in Live and a game that had it's loyal base in Sony's Shootout. Difference? They put the proper resources behind their title and stuck with it to build their rep not looking for the quick and easy payout and here we are.

                  The basketball market is bigger than it's given credit for. If you aren't going to put in the time needed and the resources required to succeed, then yeah you need to get out, but don't start trash talking the market when you aren't doing what you need to be doing to make it in it. That's the problem I have with both 2K and EA's treatment of the college basketball market.

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                  • mrprice33
                    Just some guy
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 5986

                    #264
                    Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

                    This looks like a disaster.

                    What EA should have done is announced that they're working on Live 14 and spent two years making the game.

                    Some history from a pretty well-connected source:

                    When the Elite team went in to start on Elite 11, they scrapped all of the code from Live 10. It's basically gone. Now, when they started work on Live 13, the team went in to find what of Elite they could use as a base and it was basically nothing. They may have thought they could do this in a year but really they need at least 2, and they're finding that out now.

                    BTW, is it just me or do the players look like they don't have functioning elbows? The arms look bizarre.

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                    • mrprice33
                      Just some guy
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5986

                      #265
                      Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

                      Originally posted by Tha_Kid
                      Don't get the reminiscing over Sony's NBA title when Microsoft shut down a much more promising franchise in a more premature fashion.


                      GOAT

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                      • Boilerbuzz
                        D* B**rs!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5154

                        #266
                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        Not true at all. The hoops market is and always has been big enough to support at least 3 NBA titles. If you put in a half assed effort however going into things looking for simply a profit, you're going to get burned. If you have a quality NBA title out there it'll sell, you simply have to stick with it. 2K was in Sony's position at one time stuck on a single system that not a WHOLE lot of people had with the better selling system already dominated with 2 titles a juggernaut in Live and a game that had it's loyal base in Sony's Shootout. Difference? They put the proper resources behind their title and stuck with it to build their rep not looking for the quick and easy payout and here we are.

                        The basketball market is bigger than it's given credit for. If you aren't going to put in the time needed and the resources required to succeed, then yeah you need to get out, but don't start trash talking the market when you aren't doing what you need to be doing to make it in it. That's the problem I have with both 2K and EA's treatment of the college basketball market.
                        You might want to think it was big enough, but your wrong. If your game isn't going to sell at least a million units, you won't come close to breaking even. And now that cost has risen. Considering the PS3 market is barely over 2 million back then, how was Sony going to cut into the 2K/Live slice enough to survive?

                        2k11 saw/helped the market grow to the 5-6 million range you see today. But we don't know if that is sustainable yet. We will see. Still the PS3 portion of it split three ways isn't going to cut it for anyone. Hindsight is 20/20.

                        Now, the price of producing games has exploded. Check out the EA and 2K financial reports. Any game company. Making AAA console titles has gotten much more expensive at a rate faster than the market growth.

                        As for NCAA, Choops was considered one of the best basketball titles of all time. So, obviously, they treated that market well. If you are talking about the decision to not make a game, it's well documented that they were forced into that decision by the CLC. EA lost money on theirs, so to criticize them for being out of it is unfair.

                        The bottomline is this, you can't complain because a company bows out of a market that loses money for them. Find out more about the finances instead of assuming.

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #267
                          Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                          You might want to think it was big enough, but your wrong. If your game isn't going to sell at least a million units, you won't come close to breaking even. And now that cost has risen. Considering the PS3 market is barely over 2 million back then, how was Sony going to cut into the 2K/Live slice enough to survive?

                          2k11 saw/helped the market grow to the 5-6 million range you see today. But we don't know if that is sustainable yet. We will see. Still the PS3 portion of it split three ways isn't going to cut it for anyone. Hindsight is 20/20.

                          Now, the price of producing games has exploded. Check out the EA and 2K financial reports. Any game company. Making AAA console titles has gotten much more expensive at a rate faster than the market growth.

                          As for NCAA, Choops was considered one of the best basketball titles of all time. So, obviously, they treated that market well. If you are talking about the decision to not make a game, it's well documented that they were forced into that decision by the CLC. EA lost money on theirs, so to criticize them for being out of it is unfair.

                          The bottomline is this, you can't complain because a company bows out of a market that loses money for them. Find out more about the finances instead of assuming.
                          I think things have turned and companies don't see people love choices. Sony has a name for baseball which wasn't a big name once but its now recognizable

                          What these companies didn't do that two Kay did was keep plugging at it because that's the difference I see.

                          As it stands now sony couldve made a nice hoops game while people were clamouring for an alternative hoops title to sell

                          Folks don't like madden being solo nor two Kay for whatever reason which would be a huge driving force now.

                          You can't just say on we aren't number one so we,ll just go home. If that's the case tons of companies would be dead right now

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                          • youvalss
                            ******
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 16602

                            #268
                            Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

                            Originally posted by mrprice33


                            GOAT
                            I was in love with this game at the time. I even found some mods and stuff (some of them made the game crash, but it was still fun). And I'm probably the only one who preferred Live 99 over 2000 (except for the MJ thing), well I played them, all on the PC, which made it look so good. So I played ID 2000, which was so fun, even with its limitations.

                            Anyway, I still don't understand what was the purpose of releasing a trailer and then saying that the game is delayed (who knows if even released at this point). So what are they going to do if the game is cancelled? Release a 20-minute gameplay video? I just don't get it. Does anyone have information about this?
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                            • thareezen
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 256

                              #269
                              Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

                              it looks like live 2005 with updated graphics. why are the shoulders so stiff when the start to crossover?
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                              • andrewdski
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 17

                                #270
                                Re: NBA Live 13 Trailer Arrives, But the Game is Delayed Indefinitely

                                Originally posted by mrprice33
                                Some history from a pretty well-connected source:

                                When the Elite team went in to start on Elite 11, they scrapped all of the code from Live 10. It's basically gone. Now, when they started work on Live 13, the team went in to find what of Elite they could use as a base and it was basically nothing. They may have thought they could do this in a year but really they need at least 2, and they're finding that out now.
                                This certainly sound plausible, but there's one thing I don't get. When they realized they had to throw away all of Elite, why didn't they at least go back and look at Live 10 and see whether they could salvage anything from that? Surely they had that code backed up somewhere, they can't have literally wiped every tape and disc, can they?

                                It seems like they just decided to start over (again). How many times does EA have to demonstrate to themselves that writing a AAA sports title on this generation of platforms more or less from scratch is more than a year's work? I don't think anyone has done that. It was hard to do on PS2/XBox. I doubt anyone but EA would have the nerve to try it at this point!

                                I hope they've now learned not to attempt it again!
                                -andrewdski

                                Originally posted by NINJAK2
                                Trying to use that engine without the brain child Wang might be like trying to utilize/develop Tony Stark tech without Tony Stark..In the wrong hands it could prove disastrous.

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