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  • ffaacc03
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 3485

    #16
    Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

    Authenticity should not be sacrificed, reality should not be completely ignored and a subjective approach must not be implemented, just to meet the unfounded perception of "casual NBA followers", whose opinions by the way, vary from person to person, as they evidentely lack objectivity and any relation to meassurable data. If someone is struggling, then that player should do so for as long as his real life counterpart does.

    The use of Synergy isnt a novelty or just some fancy words, is a proven, reliable feature that was well received by most Live fans (and may I say, many 2k fans too, i.e. me). One can argue how it is implemented (how ratings interact between them and are related to the available data), but non can argue facts. Yes, there is a level of oncourt context that complements data, but what people fail to see is that such context is already in videogames, in the form of user-cpu interaction and the decissions that present during games.

    In sum, it is a welcomed implementation that fits the intended vision of a more authentic simulation ... having said that, it is extremely valuable to be given options and complete customization/editability so each user may have the chance to make the game fit their own unique perception ... I, for one, would definitively appreciate having the option to turn it off, even if I would personaly never do so.

    Here is to hope for them not deviating from offering a more authentic experience and for recognizing that offering options, customization and editability is a plus and a pilar from which the game can successfully be built from.
    Last edited by ffaacc03; 06-21-2013, 08:39 AM.

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    • Guapo516
      Rookie
      • Apr 2013
      • 190

      #17
      Originally posted by Jano
      Really bro smh lol

      Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
      Yes really bro nodding my head! As good as all the sports games look, madden, NHL, FIFA, UFC, etc.. and i know there arent many in the category of sports at e3 but live was nominated 3x and actually took home a best sports game award. Those other games displayed some impressive stuff so for live to outshine any of them with just a simple bounce tek demo of the game says something, IMO. Nba live probably showed the least of any other sports game shown and still received alot of recognition.

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      • bxphenom7
        Pro
        • Feb 2012
        • 593

        #18
        Wow, the guy seems sincere but it's hard not to be skeptical with EA. However, I'll be cautiously optimistic for competition sake.

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        • mango_prom
          Pro
          • Oct 2008
          • 737

          #19
          Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

          Originally posted by ffaacc03
          The use of Synergy isnt a novelty or just some fancy words, is a proven, reliable feature that was well received by most Live fans (and may I say, many 2k fans too, i.e. me). One can argue how it is implemented (how ratings interact between them and are related to the available data), but non can argue facts. Yes, there is a level of oncourt context that complements data, but what people fail to see is that such context is already in videogames, in the form of user-cpu interaction and the decissions that present during games.
          Synergy integration is possibly a step towards a direction 2k somewhat ignored in the past. What I wouldn't like to see though is adjusting offensive abilities on a short term basis. Now if there are young players clearly showing improvements over the course of the season, or veterans regressing in terms of athleticism, it's nice to have changes backed up by objective data. But overreacting to hot streaks isn't the way to go imo.
          Just look at J.R. Smith...if someone actually watched the Knicks and looked at advanced stats, it was absolutely clear that his numbers were a result of taking lots of shots and attacking the rim more ( which would've warranted adjustments to individual tendencies if anything). Instead, 2k decided to jack up his offensive ratings turning him into arcade superman.
          And not surprisingly, he was shut down in the playoffs. I think you get my point. Should Danny Green have 3pt maxed out for 2 games if he tears it up in real life? Don't think so.

          Basically, I hope EA is careful with constantly changing ratings, concentrating more on individual tendencies and maybe even the type and frequency of plays used by teams instead.

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          • ffaacc03
            MVP
            • Oct 2008
            • 3485

            #20
            Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

            Thats why Synergy integration is so welcomed, they track a really wide array of standard and advanced stats, IMHO, by far the best site. The key to correctly portrait a player in a given timeframe, is to alter what he has been doing differently, be it tendencies or efficiency ... the difference is huge when you go the subjective route (2K) than when you go the route of facts (meassurable data).

            I am all in for having players play as their real life counterpart during any timeframe of the season, so if for 5-10 games or so LBJ becomes R. Dupree 2.0, I would want his digital counterpart to do as well and if/once he regains his level, I want him to do it also ...

            Now, add in the promised "after 1 hour" (non selective, based on past entries) updates statement and we may be inline to witness a true authentic depiction of the NBA, like never seen before.

            Here is to hope that they can sustain such promise, that they can make propper use of this tool and back it up with neat animations and physics to showcase oncourt (there is more on a videogame than ratings and tendencies), if so, I believe this can be a deciding factor that helps Live be relevant again ... thus I am keeping my expectations in check, and at least want Live to show me sights of the future that they are aiming and signs of solid/serious effort being put onto it.
            Last edited by ffaacc03; 06-21-2013, 04:41 PM.

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            • mango_prom
              Pro
              • Oct 2008
              • 737

              #21
              Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

              Originally posted by ffaacc03
              I am all in for having players play as their real life counterpart during any timeframe of the season, so if for 5-10 games or so LBJ becomes R. Dupree 2.0, I would want his digital counterpart to do as well and if/once he regains his level, I want him to do it also ...
              I like this type of approach for some kind of live season mode if gamers want to recreate real life storylines of some guys struggling and others having a hot streak, but outside of that I think short term rating changes should be optional. If tendencies get adjusted maybe even on a daily basis, I'd love that. With ratings though, outside of a specific real life related season, maybe updates could be made in bigger intervals.
              What about a comprehensive adjustment for all players at the end of each month to track trends lasting longer than some generic hot/cold streak?

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              • kjjnesb
                Pro
                • Jun 2007
                • 844

                #22
                Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

                I found this bit interesting

                Obviously, with NBA 2K in the picture, I can't reveal our entire feature set
                Obviously skeptical based on past efforts but it seems to me that not only are they attempting to make a solid basketball game but also trying innovate where 2K isn't.

                From a personal stand point I'm a big career mode guy and while 2K has a good amount of depth in that area My Player can become very dull and routine and Association is really lacking innovation and polish from an AI stand point for going on 3 yrs now.


                I knows its improbable but if on top of having good solid gameplay they also had a Live version of Madden's Career mode they could be a serious contender to kick this new generation off..

                I remember reading in the Tech behind Connected Franchise that they were sharing the 'FranTk' or Franchise tool kit with other sports games so I'm eager to see if live is part of that.

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                • wxn8822
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 41

                  #23
                  He missed a key point: right now, the game isn't only about dribbling or individual flashiness, it is more about how you put together a game that can really simulates the team basketball and reward those good ball movement, which 2k even hasn't achieved.

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                  • da ThRONe
                    Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 8528

                    #24
                    Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

                    Originally posted by kjjnesb
                    I found this bit interesting



                    Obviously skeptical based on past efforts but it seems to me that not only are they attempting to make a solid basketball game but also trying innovate where 2K isn't.

                    From a personal stand point I'm a big career mode guy and while 2K has a good amount of depth in that area My Player can become very dull and routine and Association is really lacking innovation and polish from an AI stand point for going on 3 yrs now.
                    :

                    I knows its improbable but if on top of having good solid gameplay they also had a Live version of Madden's Career mode they could be a serious contender to kick this new generation off..

                    I remember reading in the Tech behind Connected Franchise that they were sharing the 'FranTk' or Franchise tool kit with other sports games so I'm eager to see if live is part of that.
                    Considering at this point all I play are be-a-pro modes the lack of progression with 2K is starting to turn me off. There's hardly anything authentic or rewarding about MyCareer.
                    You looking at the Chair MAN!

                    Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                    • Sirs
                      Banned
                      • May 2013
                      • 141

                      #25
                      Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

                      Like the focus. The nba game is more 1 on 1 and the 2 man game. Not many teams like the spurs but live has always had good spacing and rewarded you for making the extra pass.

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                      • kolanji
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 872

                        #26
                        Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

                        I mean wow to be honest I could have never said I was hyped up by an NBA live game ....I am seriously loving what am hearing so far about this game

                        it's feels kinda Like they are building this game especially for me...

                        part of me wants to believe that it's the same song EA is playing,but another part have me thinking with this new engine and new hardware coming that the past will mean nothing more that an old feeling easily drown by innovations and hard work

                        we will soon know more about this game as I am sure most of us here are anxious about

                        am listening and watching u have my attention EA...bring it
                        Humans fear what they dont understand, hate what they cant concur i guess its just the theory of man

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                        • kjjnesb
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 844

                          #27
                          Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

                          Originally posted by da ThRONe
                          Considering at this point all I play are be-a-pro modes the lack of progression with 2K is starting to turn me off. There's hardly anything authentic or rewarding about MyCareer.
                          I agree MyCareer has become rather superficial and souless. I'm really excited for the future of Live in the sense that EA might push 2K and EA might finally get the basketball formula right.

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                          • JerseySuave4
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 5152

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Guapo516
                            I think it's safe to say live is back and going to be better than ever! Nba live will be nothing short of amazing!
                            The best has yet to come from nba live as well as nba 2k and both will deliver classics. We are in for a treat. The upcoming generation of gaming will be the golden age of gaming!
                            How can you say Live is back before we've even seen 5 on 5 gameplay?

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                            • Rockie_Fresh88
                              Lockdown Defender
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 9621

                              #29
                              Re: NBA Live 14 Executive Producer Talks Priorities, Synergy, Commitment & More

                              I like the ball is No longer "attached" add Realistic player movement and I might pre-order
                              #1 Laker fan
                              First Team Defense !!!

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                              • jwtucker710
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 93

                                #30
                                I'm ready for LIVE's return, definitely! Even if it's not quite as good as 2K, the fact that they are doing new things and being innovative is what sports gamers want. The new engine and dribbling mechanics look very impressive ... a very fluid feel to the game.
                                So is it a done deal that Kyrie Irving will be the cover player? Looks like it.
                                http://www.easports.com/

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