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  • David129
    Rookie
    • Sep 2004
    • 225

    #31
    Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

    But Not Having a Franchise Mode or CCM Will this Hurt Live?

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    • P4N748E42
      Rookie
      • Sep 2010
      • 11

      #32
      Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

      they need a fundamentally solid and FUN fully featured game (by fully featured i mean they need all the game modes 2k has)...AND if they can nail online (every other ea sports game has so id be surprised if live didnt) then id say theyre good to go. their chances of trumping 2k are very very slim but i dont think winning the year is their goal for 2014.

      as they did with the fifa reboot theyll want a solid foundation for live and then theyll tailor that experience with the hopes of having the best game 2 or 3 years from now.

      im more excited about live this year than 2k...same as im more excited about pes 2014 more than fifa 14.

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      • TheBuddyHobbs
        Banned
        • Apr 2013
        • 2312

        #33
        Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

        Originally posted by David129
        But Not Having a Franchise Mode or CCM Will this Hurt Live?
        Where did you hear they won't have a franchise mode?

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        • Jay Jay
          Rookie
          • Jun 2011
          • 287

          #34
          Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

          Honestly I don't think 2k 14 next gen is going to be that much different gameplay wise because we have to consider all the platforms 2k is coming out on. I think Live 14 is going to be the better next gen nba game because they're only focused on next gen and if they really have no canned animations, in my opinion EA is off to a better start but we will see.

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          • I Djm
            MVP
            • Feb 2011
            • 1297

            #35
            Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

            Originally posted by Jay Jay
            Honestly I don't think 2k 14 next gen is going to be that much different gameplay wise because we have to consider all the platforms 2k is coming out on. I think Live 14 is going to be the better next gen nba game because they're only focused on next gen and if they really have no canned animations, in my opinion EA is off to a better start but we will see.
            2k can also afford to put it out on more systems unlike Live
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            • youvalss
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              • Feb 2007
              • 16599

              #36
              Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

              Originally posted by Jay Jay
              Honestly I don't think 2k 14 next gen is going to be that much different gameplay wise because we have to consider all the platforms 2k is coming out on. I think Live 14 is going to be the better next gen nba game because they're only focused on next gen and if they really have no canned animations, in my opinion EA is off to a better start but we will see.
              If we judge by the current generation, Live seemed to take advantage of a new generation when it comes to graphics/lighting etc. Live was slower to adapt to a new gen when it comes to gameplay, though. They always had gameplay features that seemed to 'enjoy' the power of the new tech, but it didn't make the game realistic, authentic or deep, especially early on.

              2K (if we're even allowed to mention this word here), while (maybe) porting their game to the new gen (porting or not - not starting a discussion about it - and definitely NOT here), used the new tech to power their game to play more realistically, and to be deeper.

              Now, if you ask me which company took more advantage of the new generation power, I could have said Live - based on what their intention was and how much they promoted it. But you need to differentiate a next-gen 'tech'ish game from a good/realistic/deep basketball game. Those are 2 different things. It's not a 2K vs EA post, I'm just saying that, in my opinion, EA was all over the new generation, but it took them a long time to actually use it to create a good/realistic/deep basketball experience.

              What's going to happen this generation? I'm not going to guess, I'll just wait and see. Either way, it's great to have 2 games again. And I sure hope another company will create a 3rd game. I can add just that EA didn't release a game in 3 years, so you can't really measure the difference from their last game (10). It's just not fair, in my opinion. Unless...10 is still better than anything they have created so far. We'll have to wait and see.

              Anyway, that's how I see it. Anyone can share their view and argue.


              PS: I'm not even sure I'm on topic anymore...
              Last edited by youvalss; 08-06-2013, 10:57 PM.
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              • JerzeyReign
                MVP
                • Jul 2009
                • 4847

                #37
                Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

                What does Live need to do to compete with 2k? Its simple: make a product that forces users to play basketball and not a video game. Live has a perfect opportunity to snatch back the virtual basketball community. We're that community. Yeah casuals buy the bulk of the game but when someone is stuck deciding what game to get they come to places like OS for reviews.

                Win the sim community back and they'll do more than just compete with 2k.
                #WashedGamer

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                • mpenias
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 35

                  #38
                  Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

                  My fave all around basketball game was Live '06. There were special attributes that a lot of players had and depending on the situation, you could activate certain abilities. It was a great system that should have evolved differently.
                  Also, they gave the option to create a custom playoff with fantasy draft. It was the one feature I have been missing the past few years. What my friends and I (4 total) would do was we each drafted 2 teams and had a mini-tourney. We literally stopped playing any other game for a year.

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                  • BallIsLife2
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 218

                    #39
                    Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

                    Nothing much, in my opinion.

                    All they have to do is create a Live Game which caters to both sim heads and casual gamers without there being ridiculous exploits and sub-par gameplay.

                    Don't really care about modes, but having a Franchise mode and Superstar mode that is somewhat realistic will definitely make this game something to look forward to.

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                    • KyotoCarl
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 3827

                      #40
                      Originally posted by BallIsLife2
                      Nothing much, in my opinion.

                      All they have to do is create a Live Game which caters to both sim heads and casual gamers without there being ridiculous exploits and sub-par gameplay.

                      Don't really care about modes, but having a Franchise mode and Superstar mode that is somewhat realistic will definitely make this game something to look forward to.
                      "all they have to do". Not near as easy as that. Saying the competition has ridiculous exploits and sub par gameplay is not true.

                      Live needs to prove that it is a stable, balanced product that shows potential to develop.

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                      What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

                      My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
                      http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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                      • BallIsLife2
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 218

                        #41
                        Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

                        Originally posted by KyotoCarl
                        "all they have to do". Not near as easy as that. Saying the competition has ridiculous exploits and sub par gameplay is not true.

                        Live needs to prove that it is a stable, balanced product that shows potential to develop.

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                        I should have put "in my opinion" after that quote.

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                        • Guard-ian
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 612

                          #42
                          Providing the gameplay is solid, balanced and (specially) realistic, Live 14 should offer a great online experience, customizable leagues/dinasties with web access/control would be a strong starting point...

                          Cheers! ;-)
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                          • jersez
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1892

                            #43
                            Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

                            Originally posted by JerzeyReign
                            What does Live need to do to compete with 2k? Its simple: make a product that forces users to play basketball and not a video game. Live has a perfect opportunity to snatch back the virtual basketball community. We're that community. Yeah casuals buy the bulk of the game but when someone is stuck deciding what game to get they come to places like OS for reviews.

                            Win the sim community back and they'll do more than just compete with 2k.
                            I was just about to say that. Get the sim crowd by making a sim game, it doesn't have to be a perfect game but a game that requires strategy and has a limited amount of exploits.

                            Also just try to beat 2k in two or three categories a year, while still differentiating your product and creating a realistic game.
                            ARE YOU LOOKING FOR YOUTUBE CHANNELS DEDICATED TO THE SIM COMMUNITY CLICK THE LINKS BELOW, AND SUBSCRIBE FOR ALL SIM CONTENT.
                            https://www.youtube.com/user/UnitedSimGaming
                            https://youtube.com/c/Jerseymad93

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                            • sportjames23
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1152

                              #44
                              Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

                              Live just needs to worry about releasing a game before thinking about competing with 2K.
                              "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

                              - Michael Jordan

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                              • barimanlhs
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 262

                                #45
                                Re: What does Live 14 need to do to compete with 2K?

                                Originally posted by jersez
                                I was just about to say that. Get the sim crowd by making a sim game, it doesn't have to be a perfect game but a game that requires strategy and has a limited amount of exploits.

                                Also just try to beat 2k in two or three categories a year, while still differentiating your product and creating a realistic game.

                                Unfortunately thats not where the money is. Casual fans could care less if it plays like real basketball. If it is fun and easy to play, you will get more sales and press than if it is difficult but realistic. It will appeal greatly to everyone on this website but the average Live/2k gamer could care less or be turned away by it.
                                FEAR THE DEER!

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